Dutchieman420
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Btw second pic from the top are 2 examples of this technique being used to prolong the growth and the big chunky guy I did this on one main Cola a week before topping the middle stalk.
Pinching top of buds (Backbuilding) technique
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Dutchieman420
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I will typically cut the pinched part before it goes all turd brown it's not a large amount that is pinched just the tip, another method like this is to just clip a tiny amount on the very tip, on the chunkier plant in the photos above can maybe see the clipped tips maybe not
Dutchieman420
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To get better at learning topping techniques I recommend learning about roses and make your objective to be trying to get as many flowers to bloom at the same time as possible. Also for practicing urskills at supercropping
Be careful but try it on Fresno Chili's, as well as tomatoes.
Be careful but try it on Fresno Chili's, as well as tomatoes.
Flowki
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Thank you, we can forget it now.
I am open minded about this technique although it seemed counter intuitive to everything I have read. Rasta roy seems to have echoed everything I thought.
I personally would expect the comparison to be something like hand length buds vs topped ones that are like 3/4 the length but double the width. Or maybe 3/4 the length, a little more width but a lot denser. While I can still keep an open mind those pics are not swaying me, no ill intent, just what it is.
Dutchieman420
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I'm not trying to sway ya brotha, to each his own. Most people want a quick grow in that respect if you do want fast weed let the plant just do its thing. I def don't do it to all of my plants but this one room is an example of it.
Lightgreen2k
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that is exactly what i have done. It is week three into flower about day 23/24. I topped/clipped the tips of the bud on about day 17 when you first see budding.
I have been following various people that use this technique and they all seem to have good results. I also plan to strip all the fan leaves on one plant to see how well both will work.
Dutchieman420
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Stripping fan leaves after the post flip stretch is a great one. I have been messing around with various amounts of stripping for a couple seasons now it seems to be great with certain strains. Like pure indica's. BlackDomina is my new fav is a dream in& outdoors does great with LST supercropping and stripping seems to never slow down no matter what you throw at it
Lightgreen2k
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yup stripping always works for me.
The last thing im about to try, maybe next run. The part where the bud site lies is to mini fan leaves. Im about to peel those two leaves off aswell.
I have not tried it yet, but another thing that is said to increase yeild.
Dutchieman420
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Don't do too much and it can but that is also so thing you only want to do with a hearty bitch one that doesn't mind the fanleaf stripping in the first place
SouthCross
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Weights grown off 12 plants in the exact same conditions. 6 are pinched, the other are not. Same weight in soil between each pot. Seriously documented fertilizer application and the different phenotypes. Total weight of each plant. Including bud sites that weren't damaged.
No other training. The pinch is the only thing done to the first six. After you're done with that group. Time for another strain. Once you are about 3 years into this with evidence it works. It's still speculation. One thing it does easy prove without a lengthy test, is it damages the plant.
Dutchieman420
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That process would be great for development in theories for publication. Damaging plants in different ways triggering a response in various ways by "damaging" can be very helpful
SouthCross
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And If you can prove it works. You have the rights to name the process. Then masses of growers will follow the technique. I'm all for experimentation but not so much on new growers damaging otherwise healthy plants.
For years and years. At least since 2005. Somebody always has quick and dirty trick to grow better weed. As seen on TV type deal. It's gonna take real evidence it works for other growers to support the technique.
Dutchieman420
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I'm sure it would, I enjoy growing to much and have to many other projects to do something like that.
Lightgreen2k
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what process are you speaking of..
you know this never to have been done ever. NOTHING new is under the sun, what in 2017, you think this would be a new process or just something yourself got enlightenment too.
SouthCross
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It doesn't have a name because it's unproven. Topping, FIM, LST, Scogging, Sea of green, colloidal silver to produce hermies.
Hydroponic systems. Deep Water, ebb and flow.....All proven techniques and have a name.
Designer soil? Make it and name that to. Super Soil. Proven recipe...
So far, this is an unproven 'pinch'.
Creature1969
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I've always said "If it was proven to work, it would be the norm".
I tried this on an Amnesia. Wasn't impressed. I will try it one more time if I can time it toward the last weeks when the buds swell. Otherwise, I got a LOT of foxtailing on that plant but not on her lollipopped sister who produced fat, dense buds more akin to an Indica dom strain.
I tried this on an Amnesia. Wasn't impressed. I will try it one more time if I can time it toward the last weeks when the buds swell. Otherwise, I got a LOT of foxtailing on that plant but not on her lollipopped sister who produced fat, dense buds more akin to an Indica dom strain.
AMEN TO THE SCRIPTURE BROTHER! just glad to see a little LIVING WORD up here. Its interesting to see how many hostile or quick tempered people there are. The attitudes don't seem to match the products being grown. I thought for a minute on some of these threads, these might've been angry alcoholics or volatile cocaine addicts talking. DEFINITELY not people partaking in the HUMBLE herb...NOT COMMENTING ON ANYONE IN THIS THREAD SPECIFICALLY (except the scripture!) as I have no experience nor is it even legal where I live, however I do enjoy reading and gaining knowledge of the things I dream about ...and I enjoy reading the way people respond to others...and thats what I've noticed...smh. Oh well! what can I say I'm a review reader! #ontothenextone
Pinching/fimming is very strain specific for success........... it's my normal process but some plants don't react well to it and you lose final weight, not gain. I've found sativa's normally do better than indica's since they normally grow larger and have a longer flowering period. It's also also dependent on having some additional veg time after the pinch, rather than pinching just at flowering or a week or two into it. There are other things too, but you get my point.
Budzbuddha
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What it " really " does is make a nicer looking bud ( bag appeal ) , I do it once in a while , but is not for any other reason. Bud will not add much to the end result but does dense up my nugs. Buds do swell up a bit more compared to untouched buds. It's an old technique , I tried it and it worked ok. On " Spear shaped " buds it seems to chunk up much better than leaving them alone.
" Your mileage will vary " LOL
I get some decent chunky results ... I usually clip the mains and upper mid branches week 3 then at week 5 only then leave it till harvest. Some strains like it some don't.
NOTE :
The RED TINT on the plant is from a Deep Red bloom light ( 630 - 660 nam ) that was added during flowering.
" Your mileage will vary " LOL
I get some decent chunky results ... I usually clip the mains and upper mid branches week 3 then at week 5 only then leave it till harvest. Some strains like it some don't.
NOTE :
The RED TINT on the plant is from a Deep Red bloom light ( 630 - 660 nam ) that was added during flowering.
