Plant count clarification with upgrade.

Hello to all, I have my red card and got a upgraded plant count that says 24 on it, now does anyone know for sure if that means 12/12 or can i do 24 flowering? Also can I combine that with my recreational 6? Thanks in advance TTB

Those extra plant recs are for edibles ya? Other guys have more experience than I do, I'd say that's 12/12 and does include rec value, as to say a total of 24, not 30. But I'm always wary of Johnny law. I have two reds at my residence and stick to the 12 or 6/6 usually 8/4 or 9/3 veg/flower. No need to get locked just cuz u wanna run more strains. If that rec is for edibles, I've heard (not confirmed) that if uget caught w smoking paraphernalia at the rez, your count won't stand up in court.... Just sayin. Be smart and don't let the fuzz fuck u over.

chef c said:

Those extra plant recs are for edibles ya? Other guys have more experience than I do, I'd say that's 12/12 and does include rec value, as to say a total of 24, not 30. But I'm always wary of Johnny law. I have two reds at my residence and stick to the 12 or 6/6 usually 8/4 or 9/3 veg/flower. No need to get locked just cuz u wanna run more strains. If that rec is for edibles, I've heard (not confirmed) that if uget caught w smoking paraphernalia at the rez, your count won't stand up in court.... Just sayin. Be smart and don't let the fuzz fuck u over.

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I hope that you are not right about this Chef, would a higher count mean that you can only make edibles and not smoke? I would love to see a lawyer go over this issue... but not in a courtroom. Also you mention getting locked up for exceeding the plant count, does that actually happen any more? I thought you risk getting a ticket and having your 'overage' plants taken (stolen) by Johnny. Can anyone fill in the details with the latest legal situation?

Medshed might (probably does hes good about knowing the politics)... if he doesn't check up here in a day or two, look him up and ask. Also maybe eyecandi, bud patch, green peak, disposition 84, hot sause, outwest, CAS, basically any of the players that post here could have the answer. Good question though. Lest see what the fellas can dig up... and for what it matters, I hope I'm wrong too.

Have the extra plant recommendation will not keep you from getting arrested and charged if you run into an asshole cop. You can use it as an affirmative defense in court provided the Dr is willing to come and testify for you.

On the other hand, with the passage of 64 by such margins, there are not many district attorneys in the state willing to prosecute home growing.

I have 2 card here and try to stay under 6/6 but there is another adult here over 21 so if I am a plant or 2 over it's covered under recreational.

Thanks Doog, that sounds like a positive view, although we need to remember that 64's laws are not yet written. The will of the voters was expressed so let's keep our fingers crossed that what gets implemented as law actually fits with what we voted for. Tokey's questions are still out there and I think reflect what a lot of home growers are concerned about. I want to be legal. I am kind of messed up with cancer and am in no shape financially or physically to be getting arrested/busted. After reading about Rick Simpson Oil, Phoenix Tears and the possibility that there might actually be a cure for my disease I would like to make the medicine but will need a pound of cured buds. This will take more than 3 plants in flower. If anyone can help with the legal questions that Tokey brings up.. Please do so.

Prosecute a MMJ patient with Cancer for having the Dr recommended # of plants? Not a chance.... Grow with a clear mind man and please let me know if I can do anything to help.

doogleef said:

Prosecute a MMJ patient with Cancer for having the Dr recommended # of plants? Not a chance.... Grow with a clear mind man and please let me know if I can do anything to help.

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A plant count recommendation from a doctor does not change the law. As has been said all it does is give your lawyer more to work with. You could still be charged and have to go to trial. If no one knows about your grow, then it does not really matter.

It is easy to comply with amendment 64. Grow three different plants under 1,000 watt bulbs. Then you get 4+ pounds of 3 different varieties. That should cover just about anyone for 2.5 months. If you want more, you probably are not going to comply with the current laws anyway.

420circuit said:

Thanks Doog, that sounds like a positive view, although we need to remember that 64's laws are not yet written.

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For personal cultivation, the rules are set in stone.

420circuit said:

The will of the voters was expressed so let's keep our fingers crossed that what gets implemented as law actually fits with what we voted for.

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The important part is already taken care of. The Great State of Colorado has said it is okay for me to grow three mature and three immature plants at the same time. That is good enough for me. Rec stores are just bonus I do not need, I have a red card.

420circuit said:

Tokey's questions are still out there and I think reflect what a lot of home growers are concerned about. I want to be legal. I am kind of messed up with cancer and am in no shape financially or physically to be getting arrested/busted. After reading about Rick Simpson Oil, Phoenix Tears and the possibility that there might actually be a cure for my disease I would like to make the medicine but will need a pound of cured buds. This will take more than 3 plants in flower. If anyone can help with the legal questions that Tokey brings up.. Please do so.

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It is 3 plants per person over 21 at the residence. You could try to comply with 3 plants under 1,000 watt lights. Having cancer is pretty much a kick ass affirmative defense. In your case, I would say grow what ever you want, tell no one and do not worry about it.

I would talk to a lawyer instead of asking stoners on a weed board. I have heard some outrageous opinions about 64 here from some otherwise rational people.

Trousers said:

I would talk to a lawyer instead of asking stoners on a weed board. I have heard some outrageous opinions about 64 here from some otherwise rational people.

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Thanks Doog and Trou for the non-outrageous opines, this is kind of like asking the folks at the bar, or in younger years the gang on the playground. I am very stealth about my grow, but some adults (there are no minors) in my family know what I am doing, so the 'secret' is going to leak, hopefully not resulting in a problem. Sucks that they had to find out but they live under the same roof, so I suppose I could add to the plant count if it ever comes up. Getting diagnosed with cancer is a tough thing. It was a couple years before it even crossed my mind that I could legally grow. Kind of like the only good thing about having cancer. Trou, you suggest 4 pounds with 3 plants, can you point me to a growing method that can do that? I really do want to be legal, but I also want to have enough buds to make the RSO and have some stash on hand. The hydro is really fun but I can't see it producing that kind of result so I was thinking about adding more capacity but am worried about crossing a legal line and winding up in serious trouble. Bad enough with the cancer, would be especially bad in jail, in court or out a bunch of money. Any suggestions about which lawyer would be a good person to consult about this?

And yes, low profile all the way.

Hey Tokey, thanks for asking the questions.

I was just saying you could put one plant under a 1,000 watt bulb and you should be able to get over a pound.
Amendment 64 allows for 3 mature and 3 immature plants per person over 21 at the residence.

Trousers said:

I was just saying you could put one plant under a 1,000 watt bulb and you should be able to get over a pound.
Amendment 64 allows for 3 mature and 3 immature plants per person over 21 at the residence.

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With the method I am using now, hydro, a single plant would probably produce and ounce or 2 with my 600 HPS. Are you suggesting that I could ditch the hydro and start a super soil project in...say a 7 gallon container and switch up to a 1000W ballast and bulb to net a pound per plant? Isn't that being very optimistic? Heck if I know I am just working on my second grow as the first one aborted early due to my mistakes. I do like the idea of being able to face an inspection/raid without fear. Appreciate your input.

I think what Trousers is saying is you could pull a lb. per plant if you had a dedicated 1000w light for each plant. Of course I'm just a noob on my first grow with a handful of 3" high plants in a box in the bsmnt... what do I know lol.

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I think what Trousers is saying is you could pull a lb. per plant if you had a dedicated 1000w light for each plant. Of course I'm just a noob on my first grow with a handful of 3" high plants in a box in the bsmnt... what do I know lol.

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The big light produces a pretty large footprint, certainly enough light to share amongst a few plants, seems a waste to just have 1 lonely plant sittin' there... I'd love to have just 3 plants in flower, each producing a pound, I just don't know how that is done. I guess if you maxed everything, light, nutes and CO2 and have hella genetics... Maybe someone can enlighten those of us in the dark.

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The big light produces a pretty large footprint, certainly enough light to share amongst a few plants, seems a waste to just have 1 lonely plant sittin' there... I'd love to have just 3 plants in flower, each producing a pound, I just don't know how that is done. I guess if you maxed everything, light, nutes and CO2 and have hella genetics... Maybe someone can enlighten those of us in the dark.

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Well we grow one plant per light at the disp I work at. its not that hard to get a Lb per plant but you gonna need ~3mnths veg time.
as far as a complete grow guide on how to do lights nutes and co2 there is whole sections of these forums you can look at to get those answer. Not being a dick just saying this thread isnt gonna be enough to contain all the answers you need. thats what the rest of the forums are for.

BadAndy said:

Well we grow one plant per light at the disp I work at. its not that hard to get a Lb per plant but you gonna need ~3mnths veg time.
as far as a complete grow guide on how to do lights nutes and co2 there is whole sections of these forums you can look at to get those answer. Not being a dick just saying this thread isnt gonna be enough to contain all the answers you need. thats what the rest of the forums are for.

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You are right, hopefully someone can respond to the OP's questions about how many plants can be grown legally...

But before riding off into the sunset it would be great if someone could throw us newbs a bone, what method can result in a 1 pound plant? Coir? Supersoil? Mysterious Planet X? This relates to Tokey's post because the need to grow more than 3 goes away if 1 pound godzilla plants can be grown.

I kno a guy who pulls more than a p/plant. Its skywakler (this was the only plant in the room to Yeild like this) which imo isn't the very best strain on the face of the planet (same guy who I got the chem 91/fire og and well all my good clones from actually, credit where it's due) but a massive yeilder (his pre 98 bubba bx do about 3/4p for reference) but his set up was a 10,000 watt a/c (70-78f in different parts of the room depending if you were right next to a blower or the a/c or right under one of the lights) hydro DWC (10 plants 10 lights all connected) w a co2 generator (equivalent of being at 18,000 ft at the end of bloom as to say we couldn't really hang out in the room for more than a few mins wo getting a massive headache or passing out due to lack of o2) 15'x30' room all reflective walls and advanced nutrients the whole line. He says its like a 25,000$ set up... Investors and the whole 9 yards. So maybe down size that op and I think it's possible. I think ur gonna need a 1k w a few months veg like Andy said to get there. But you can get there. And for what it's worth, I'm one of the ones who is WARY of 64. Trusting the govt is like trusting the devil, don't.

That is about right, approx. one pound a light and back in early 90's I had a three 1000 wt. SunCircle and used to average 4-7 pounds a crop. My buddies (very close knit of growers back then) all called me the Guru, only diff was is that I stayed in most of the time taking care of my ladies, while they were all out at the bars neglecting theirs! We NEVER grew over 48 (50) plants and always kept 24 blooming, while vegging the other 24 as anything over 50 back then and you were going to club Fed.....Up here in mountains now at 9648 ft. above sea level, and came from right at sea level moving out here and I can tell you there's a HUGE drop off in yield due to elevation, where the hell was Jorge when we really needed him. WE'd park a f'n mile from anything that was even considered a grow shop as even in those spots you had a chance of definately running into cops if they got your number. NO can-fans, no nothing compared to whats out there these days!!!

I pulled 1 and a half in a 5x5 with 1 1000watt hps off of 5 plants........All advanced nutrients organic line! I just ordered an identical lighting set up which will be here in a week! Me and my wife can house 12 plants together, so time to double up! It's not the amount of plants you can grow, it is space and light!

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You are right, hopefully someone can respond to the OP's questions about how many plants can be grown legally...

But before riding off into the sunset it would be great if someone could throw us newbs a bone, what method can result in a 1 pound plant? Coir? Supersoil? Mysterious Planet X? This relates to Tokey's post because the need to grow more than 3 goes away if 1 pound godzilla plants can be grown.

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At the disp. we use super soil and teas.
I would think it would be easiest with some undercurrent or bubble bucket setup to get those results (so honestly hydro would be best) but once you get dialed in with some good strains anything is possible.

BACK TO THE OP ORIGINAL QUESTION:
In my experience your rec. is gonna be wirtten as half veg half flower so if you have a 24 plant count it would be 12/12 flower/veg.
this is in no way covered by the law since the law will only cover the original 6 plants. you would have to prove if for some reason you were aressted that you actually need the extra plants and have the doctor who wrote your script agree with it.

Personally I wouldnt mix rec with medical just because so I cant really say much about that

chewberto said:

I pulled 1 and a half in a 5x5 with 1 1000watt hps off of 5 plants........All advanced nutrients organic line! I just ordered an identical lighting set up which will be here in a week! Me and my wife can house 12 plants together, so time to double up! It's not the amount of plants you can grow, it is space and light!

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Light movers make the possibilities limitless. It takes quite awhile to get a large-veg perpetual setup running, but once you do you can pull a huge plant every 10 days if you want to.