Plants slowly dying, dont know what to do, pics

MayoMaster · Dec 12, 2009

ok so if you look at my pictures, I have 2 different plants. One is early on in the problem, and the other is at a later stage. The real messed up looking one loooked exactly like the healthier one 3 weeks ago, and now this perfectly healthy one is starting to look like it. I stopped feeding nutes, a week ago, and temperature is about 80 degrees. I am usoing fox farms oceans forest with light warrior. I was using big bloom and tiger bloom. What is going on with these babies? I thought it was heat stress, then thought nute burn, and now im just confused.

edit: I actually have pictures of 3 plants here, and 2 of them are gnarly looking.

MayoMaster · Dec 12, 2009

The edges of the leaves look like they are getting pale and curling down, I cant find anything like this. ANyone?

TeckZero · Dec 12, 2009

how long are they into flowering?

How long is the flowering period for that strain?

MayoMaster · Dec 12, 2009

TeckZero said:
how long are they into flowering?

How long is the flowering period for that strain?

In 2 days it will be the start of week 8. I have had them on 12/12 from seed, so Id say they have been flowering for 5 weeks.

They are bagseed so I have no idea how long it's supposed to last, but the leaves are not drying and curling up like they are about to ripen, cause they still got a lot of development to go

TheMightyS · Dec 12, 2009

is it just fan leafs near the bottom getting this affect?
and also does it affect jut the leaves or the bud sites aswell?

TheMightyS · Dec 12, 2009

Important question bro, before you go and do anything drastic, this might just be any easy fix.

TeckZero · Dec 12, 2009

Dont forget that when the plant will draw energy from the leafs juring flowering also you might want to start cutting back on the nutes because you dont want any nutes left in your plant when you harvest

MayoMaster · Dec 12, 2009

TheMightyS said:
is it just fan leafs near the bottom getting this affect?
and also does it affect jut the leaves or the bud sites aswell?

It actually starts with the fan leaves near the top first. They get the weird look, then start to curl. It's like the outsides of the leaves are turning pale. Lower leaves are fine, for now, but I know over time it will get way worse, and end up looking like my other two plants.

JN811 · Dec 12, 2009

dude i can tell you the problem, its too much nutes for 100% sure, your leaves are clawing u which means too much nitrogen, you need to fix the ph problem and flush them very wrll with ph tested water... I really dunno if they are savealbe at this point but on the plus side looks like your almost done... good luck!!!

JN811 · Dec 12, 2009

TheMightyS said:
Important question bro, before you go and do anything drastic, this might just be any easy fix.

and trust me this is no ez fix... i had clawing in the begining and those leaves that clawed are still like that a month later...

TheMightyS · Dec 12, 2009

JN811 said:
dude i can tell you the problem, its too much nutes for 100% sure, your leaves are clawing u which means too much nitrogen, you need to fix the ph problem and flush them very wrll with ph tested water... I really dunno if they are savealbe at this point but on the plus side looks like your almost done... good luck!!!

Think hes got it mate. Well spotted mate

ghostsamurai25 · Dec 12, 2009

Those plants are nowhere near being done.
You over ferted causing nute lockout and ph
trouble. You need to stop ferting and check
the run off ph, it should be low. Youll want to
pick up some lime to help bring it back up.
In the mean time flush with 7.0 water,
let it dry and do it again. By then you should
of bought the lime and can start treating the
soil with lime to prevent the ph from dropping off.
FIRST THING IS FIRST, STOP GIVING THEM NUTES

MayoMaster · Dec 12, 2009

ghostsamurai25 said:
Those plants are nowhere near being done.
You over ferted causing nute lockout and ph
trouble. You need to stop ferting and check
the run off ph, it should be low. Youll want to
pick up some lime to help bring it back up.
In the mean time flush with 7.0 water,
let it dry and do it again. By then you should
of bought the lime and can start treating the
soil with lime to prevent the ph from dropping off.
FIRST THING IS FIRST, STOP GIVING THEM NUTES

Been feeding them all with plain water, with 2 tablespoons of molasses. What is the lime method? I dont have a PH meter, I just let my water sit out for 24 hours+ to remove any unwanted chemicals, distilling it. I know they are fugly, but will the leaves that are alive spring back up soon?

JN811 · Dec 13, 2009

ghostsamurai25 said:
Those plants are nowhere near being done.
You over ferted causing nute lockout and ph
trouble. You need to stop ferting and check
the run off ph, it should be low. Youll want to
pick up some lime to help bring it back up.
In the mean time flush with 7.0 water,
let it dry and do it again. By then you should
of bought the lime and can start treating the
soil with lime to prevent the ph from dropping off.
FIRST THING IS FIRST, STOP GIVING THEM NUTES

i never said they were done i said they were not repairable, but lime will not correct the ph, it actually takes months for lime to change the ph of soil, or so i read...

JN811 · Dec 13, 2009

MayoMaster said:
Been feeding them all with plain water, with 2 tablespoons of molasses. What is the lime method? I dont have a PH meter, I just let my water sit out for 24 hours+ to remove any unwanted chemicals, distilling it. I know they are fugly, but will the leaves that are alive spring back up soon?

from what ive seen leaves dont repair themselves, once they are messed up like that theyre not going to get better. At this point you want to focus on new growth... You havent gave those plants any nutes?? Kind of hard to believe looking like that... Id definetly invest in a ph meter or test strips. You can find them online for like 5 bucks, well worth it... You shouldnt just blindly add anything to fix your ph when you have no idea whether you need to raise or lower it..

MayoMaster · Dec 13, 2009

JN811 said:
from what ive seen leaves dont repair themselves, once they are messed up like that theyre not going to get better. At this point you want to focus on new growth... You havent gave those plants any nutes?? Kind of hard to believe looking like that... Id definetly invest in a ph meter or test strips. You can find them online for like 5 bucks, well worth it... You shouldnt just blindly add anything to fix your ph when you have no idea whether you need to raise or lower it..

No I fed them a lot, for the past few days ive been giving em water and molasses only, try to save em. Im starting to get pissed off though, the one really healthy one that is starting to look like the others, is still doing it, shes been getting water and molasses only for a week now, and it's still getting worse, I dont know what the hell to do. The leaves are getting all skinnny and crunchy and clawing like he said. It's like dying without anything I can do.

TeckZero · Dec 13, 2009

MayoMaster said:
No I fed them a lot, for the past few days ive been giving em water and molasses only, try to save em. Im starting to get pissed off though, the one really healthy one that is starting to look like the others, is still doing it, shes been getting water and molasses only for a week now, and it's still getting worse, I dont know what the hell to do. The leaves are getting all skinnny and crunchy and clawing like he said. It's like dying without anything I can do.

What kind of Light(s) are you using?
how close are they to your plants?
Have you taken your hand and put it at the top of the plant with the back of your hand facing up? if it feels hot them its hot for your plants to

JN811 · Dec 13, 2009

also how much are you watering??

MayoMaster · Dec 13, 2009

TeckZero said:
What kind of Light(s) are you using?
how close are they to your plants?
Have you taken your hand and put it at the top of the plant with the back of your hand facing up? if it feels hot them its hot for your plants to

use the hand trick all the time, never hot.
It's warm, they are definatley not too close

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