Nutty sKunK
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Was clearing out my greenhouse when I noticed this guy chilling. Accidentally knocked the top off, had cold nights and think the frost killed the flowers early.
Pretty cool
Pretty cool
Polyploid Dandelion
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xtsho
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It's always neat to find something like that. I had that happen in flowers before. It occurs in many plants but I've never seen a dandelion show the mutation. Or if I had I wasn't paying any attention. It's still cool to come across.
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Tvanmunhen
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Thanks for the thread op and that read was very interesting xtsho! A cabbage and radish wow...
StonedGardener
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I've never seen so many "mutant" dandelions......every field around here teeming with 2,3,4,5 headed monsters( large, flattened, elliptical shaped stems). Probably just some experimental chemical we are getting hosed down with.
Nutty sKunK
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That’s pretty strange. Got any pics?
It's fasication, not polyploidy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciation
Last year it happened to a tomato plant I was growing:
It happens to cannabis quite often too and I've learned how recognize it early so that I can remove the fasciated part before it blooms because I've grown them out before and they contain few trichomes. One of the signs is a flattening of the growing branch, and wild growing of side branches from it. As long as you remove the branch just below where it flattens out, any new side branches will grow and flower normally.
Last year it happened to a tomato plant I was growing:
It happens to cannabis quite often too and I've learned how recognize it early so that I can remove the fasciated part before it blooms because I've grown them out before and they contain few trichomes. One of the signs is a flattening of the growing branch, and wild growing of side branches from it. As long as you remove the branch just below where it flattens out, any new side branches will grow and flower normally.
xtsho
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You're correct it is Fasciation.It's fasication, not polyploidy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciation
Last year it happened to a tomato plant I was growing:
It happens to cannabis quite often too and I've learned how recognize it early so that I can remove the fasciated part before it blooms because I've grown them out before and they contain few trichomes. One of the signs is a flattening of the growing branch, and wild growing of side branches from it. As long as you remove the branch just below where it flattens out, any new side branches will grow and flower normally.
I usually get a few tomatoes like that every year. I've never really thought about them being any different. I just pick them and eat them without giving it a second thought. Best on 2 slices of bread with some lettuce and bacon.
You're thinking of what's called an Autumn Crocus "Colchicum Autumnale" which isn't actually a crocus but a member of the Colchicaceae family.
I eat mine too. Are those a "big beef" cultivar by any chance? Apparently a gene that controls fasciation is partially expressed to make more than the one or two "chambers" inside, making them big and multi-chambered internally. My tomato above was a big beef, and sometimes they just "go all the way". Another tomato that relies on a gene expression for fasciation is the "traveler's tomato" or Reisetomate as it's officially called. I don't think the gene actually causes fasciation, but instead makes the plant more susceptible to it because I know someone that grew Reisetomate and many of the plants grew normal fruits and others the classic "pull-apart and eat as you go" kind, with sometimes both on the same plant but on different branches: https://laidbackgardener.blog/2018/05/02/the-worlds-weirdest-tomato/
I've also noticed that fasciation in weed is more common in some strains than others. I've had Blueberry strains or crosses fasciate at least one branch a couple of times. But it could happen to any strain I think, just much more rarely. It's a bit weird that we don't really know what causes it yet, considering it's really not THAT rare, and plus it happens to so many unrelated species of plants. Even cacti sold in the stores! I hate science when it can't answer my questions
Seeing the fasciated dandelion is cool though because I've never seen it before with those. And we picked literally thousands of dandelions as kids on a mission to collect petals for my dad's dandelion wine when I was a kid.
StonedGardener
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I'll take some. Maybe they got the Covid.
Tvanmunhen
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Thanks for the interesting read. It amazes me how much goes on around me with out my knowledge. I have never seen tomatoes that extreme.I eat mine too. Are those a "big beef" cultivar by any chance? Apparently a gene that controls fasciation is partially expressed to make more than the one or two "chambers" inside, making them big and multi-chambered internally. My tomato above was a big beef, and sometimes they just "go all the way". Another tomato that relies on a gene expression for fasciation is the "traveler's tomato" or Reisetomate as it's officially called. I don't think the gene actually causes fasciation, but instead makes the plant more susceptible to it because I know someone that grew Reisetomate and many of the plants grew normal fruits and others the classic "pull-apart and eat as you go" kind, with sometimes both on the same plant but on different branches: https://laidbackgardener.blog/2018/05/02/the-worlds-weirdest-tomato/
I've also noticed that fasciation in weed is more common in some strains than others. I've had Blueberry strains or crosses fasciate at least one branch a couple of times. But it could happen to any strain I think, just much more rarely. It's a bit weird that we don't really know what causes it yet, considering it's really not THAT rare, and plus it happens to so many unrelated species of plants. Even cacti sold in the stores! I hate science when it can't answer my questions
Seeing the fasciated dandelion is cool though because I've never seen it before with those. And we picked literally thousands of dandelions as kids on a mission to collect petals for my dad's dandelion wine when I was a kid.
Nutty sKunK
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Wow that’s a big Tom Tom! Ah never heard of that before - funnily enough I got a 3 branched weed plant with 3 tops on one branch just before finding this dandelion. Funny how things seem to happen in bunches lolIt's fasication, not polyploidy: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fasciation
Last year it happened to a tomato plant I was growing:
It happens to cannabis quite often too and I've learned how recognize it early so that I can remove the fasciated part before it blooms because I've grown them out before and they contain few trichomes. One of the signs is a flattening of the growing branch, and wild growing of side branches from it. As long as you remove the branch just below where it flattens out, any new side branches will grow and flower normally.
xtsho
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Not a Big Beef but it was a Beefsteak variety.I eat mine too. Are those a "big beef" cultivar by any chance? Apparently a gene that controls fasciation is partially expressed to make more than the one or two "chambers" inside, making them big and multi-chambered internally. My tomato above was a big beef, and sometimes they just "go all the way". Another tomato that relies on a gene expression for fasciation is the "traveler's tomato" or Reisetomate as it's officially called. I don't think the gene actually causes fasciation, but instead makes the plant more susceptible to it because I know someone that grew Reisetomate and many of the plants grew normal fruits and others the classic "pull-apart and eat as you go" kind, with sometimes both on the same plant but on different branches: https://laidbackgardener.blog/2018/05/02/the-worlds-weirdest-tomato/
I've also noticed that fasciation in weed is more common in some strains than others. I've had Blueberry strains or crosses fasciate at least one branch a couple of times. But it could happen to any strain I think, just much more rarely. It's a bit weird that we don't really know what causes it yet, considering it's really not THAT rare, and plus it happens to so many unrelated species of plants. Even cacti sold in the stores! I hate science when it can't answer my questions
Seeing the fasciated dandelion is cool though because I've never seen it before with those. And we picked literally thousands of dandelions as kids on a mission to collect petals for my dad's dandelion wine when I was a kid.
fishwhistle1
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Just harvested this one. I thought it was kind of cool. It was only a lower branch that displayed this trait and jury is still out as to wether it was a bonus. As far as crystal production I would say it was on par with the rest of the plant. 
StonedGardener
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StonedGardener
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Shows one side vs other....2,3,4 heads
Very cool! That's classic fasciation. Just look at those flat enlarged stems and "crested" flower tops. Perhaps you have a bunch of them growing that are all genetically related and predisposed to it.
StonedGardener
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They have probably always been around, perhaps so stoned on a great sativa that I was focused for the first time on these colorful plants.
