Popular Bodhi Strains

My Love Triangle is some damn good smoke, not even done yet another 1.5 weeks probably. Not the OG flavours I was looking for, but still a wonderful looking plant.

Bodhi's strains have grown better, faster, stronger, then anything I grew from the dutch. Too many dutch strains are focused on yield rather then quality. I couldn't give a fuck about yield anymore, I've grown AK if I wanted yield I'd go back to it. The potency of the smoke is no where near what I have got out of American breeders.

st0wandgrow said:

For sure. It is rewarding to find that 1 in 100 gem that you can keep around and pull clones from. OTH it's nice to have some stable lines around too. I've got a few seeds each of Female Seeds C-99 and Peyote Purple and will never bother with keeping a mother plant around with either of those. They are so stable that I can just pull a seed out and grow it if I want some of that smoke.

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totally true, but if you are doing you own breeding then you should be looking at stabilized strains anyways.
To knock Bodhi because his strains aren't stable seems kinda silly.
he has ONE priority...
to make high quality genetics.
I think even his haters can agree with the fact that he has, in fact, achieved that.

Bodhi is a Jedi!

I sure as fuck can smell the shit that guys chatting

Holy shit this thread is a mine field of butt hurt....
If I understand this correctly, your mad that he/american breeders in general are crossing plants like there is no tomorrow??? Its funny you say that one of the outcomes will be a limited gene pool and we will be running back to all the "dutch originals". Its funny to me because I view it as the exact opposite, Mj wasnt meant to be bottlenecked down to one line of genes, diversity is the key to preservation. So to breed something until their is no room for originality/surprise is just plain boring to me. I dont want the plant everyone has I wanna chance to habe the plant no one has is basically what I am getting at.

^^^^that post is why I said this thread is good,very good...it sparks so much conversation,at the same time,shines light on so many things....

I'm like you...I'm not looking for the same thing,I want to find my own....

Like chemdawg seeds,do people really think his bag was the only one with seeds in it?


Only thing sativa did was reel peeps in with the thread title.....slick

I my self, like B's first work....nothing but fire

natro.hydro said:

Holy shit this thread is a mine field of butt hurt....
If I understand this correctly, your mad that he/american breeders in general are crossing plants like there is no tomorrow??? Its funny you say that one of the outcomes will be a limited gene pool and we will be running back to all the "dutch originals". Its funny to me because I view it as the exact opposite, Mj wasnt meant to be bottlenecked down to one line of genes, diversity is the key to preservation. So to breed something until their is no room for originality/surprise is just plain boring to me. I dont want the plant everyone has I wanna chance to habe the plant no one has is basically what I am getting at.

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amen, there.
exactly my point/thoughts as well.

genuity said:

^^^^that post is why I said this thread is good,very good...it sparks so much conversation,at the same time,shines light on so many things....

I'm like you...I'm not looking for the same thing,I want to find my own....

Like chemdawg seeds,do people really think his bag was the only one with seeds in it?


Only thing sativa did was reel peeps in with the thread title.....slick

I my self, like B's first work....nothing but fire

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To achieve what?

I'd be pissed if i was from his area/field and had him as my representative. But, I'm not. Just a grower and smoker that is amazed at this individuals ego

I'm sure there are much better examples of dutch breeders. I'll still grow dutch herb even after all of this. Dutch passion blueberry might be next on the list. Need to get to those before they get too old...pretty sure my bodhi stuff will be fresh for a good while

Time to check out of this useless thread..

Sativied said:

Hilarious how desperate some people choose to be delusional and ignorant.


I’ve always been grateful for the work the pioneers in the US have done in the past, but in a short time legalization you’re making a huge fucking mess of it and you’re a bunch of idiots for supporting that. Monsanto will win in the US, that much is obvious. Companies like Bodhi will be the first to sell out.

Although his involvement is debatable, mr nice lists him and shantibaba as breeders of ssh, and he can’t even afford his own medical treatment. Sensi bought the initial stock from him…

http://www.gofundme.com/nevil

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I agree with that whole heartedly. I've been talking to my bro about this, that weed seeds have became similar to corn seeds. You simply can't produce your own corn seeds with the big Agro companies seed, so you have to keep buying their seeds to see the same results. Two hybrids will never give you either of the originals.

I have to say though the last few dutch beans I got: BF's pineapple chunk, DP's blueberry and sensi's jack have been as stable as a rocky road. So I figure this is just now the market. Breeders no longer have financial incentive to breed stable strains. Unfortunately hybrid breeding is were the money/demand is and so every greedy hand is tossing pollen for a quick buck. Sucks but what can you do besides start doing it yourself. Cheers.

Sativied said:

Dutch are honest and direct. Often misinterpreted by political correct superficial americans as blunt or rude. We call it 'sober'. Not that over the top hype US nr1 wannabe nationalistic thing.

The Netherlands is the third largest investor in the United States, supporting an estimated 700,000 jobs (that includes 5 thanks to me)... The dutch also paid for the US, gave John Adams his inspiration, first embassy... in more professional environments we actually have a great relationship and the dutch are respected for their intellectual honesty.

Life's too short to bullshit yourself or others.

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This statement though. Yes, the Dutch have old world money in the US thanks to oil and the Rothchilds but let's talk about Dutch imperialism. America is a synthesis of Europe culture and ideology. How does the old saying go: "The apple doesn't fall far from the tree?"

natro.hydro said:

Holy shit this thread is a mine field of butt hurt....
If I understand this correctly, your mad that he/american breeders in general are crossing plants like there is no tomorrow??? Its funny you say that one of the outcomes will be a limited gene pool and we will be running back to all the "dutch originals". Its funny to me because I view it as the exact opposite, Mj wasnt meant to be bottlenecked down to one line of genes, diversity is the key to preservation. So to breed something until their is no room for originality/surprise is just plain boring to me. I dont want the plant everyone has I wanna chance to habe the plant no one has is basically what I am getting at.

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In nature, thousands of phenotypes is a bad thing. Landraces of weed have not bottlenecked that have adapted to certain environments. Without mankind growing them, nearly all the hybrids plants everyone loves so much like OG, GSC, haze, etc... would die off with one or two seasons. That is if they even survived germination.

This is evolutionary biology 101. Just like corn, without man planting it it would go extinct in one or two seasons. Imagine loosing weed forever because we got greedy? Banana is another plant that is a good example. The bananas we eat today are off a 100-200 year old mother plant that is locked down like fort Knox. Look it up, you'll learn something new.

I can't believe Bodhi is getting shitted on in this thread. Obviously the ones shitting on Bodhi knows nothing about him and his mission in passing great genetics to the world. To call him a pollen chucker is insane as he is one of the few breeders to test all of his crosses on a major scale not talking about 10-20 seeds hundreds of the before he sends them out for testing with growers like us. This man is so good at selecting males and females to cross that even if he didn't send a tester pack to us to test and show the world before he releases it I still would buy it.

For people who don't know hes not just taking F1 hybrids and crossing them. Lots of his males he breeds with are f2 and above like the 88g13/hp male is f3. This guy is a fuckin genius when it comes to pairing strains and taking certain generations makes different outcomes. If you really wanna know about him and how he breeds go over to Breedbay where he gets respect from people all over the world. This guy has to be one of the most humble guys in the cannabis community and that's saying a lot. People really need to do their research before they start saying shit they don't have a clue about.

Oh and on another note most people I know that grow won't touch Dutch genetics with a 10ft pole why cus the shit ain't good. People ain't saying its bad for no reason

I definitely have nothing against any breeder, but rather the whole weed seed market. People like bodhi or GHS are only catering to the masses, just like Monsanto and Dupont cater to the larger markets of edibles. Having said that, it is just a quality control issue. People like bodhi and ggg have to make a name for themselves so their efforts reflect that, companies like GHS and dutch passion already have the name so they could careless about the quality of seeds because they know they'll have repeat business either way.

My quirk with new breeders (although I will still run their beans if they interest me) is because they all offer 20-50 strains/lines and I call BS on that. Testing 100's of beans of 50 strains/lines equals at least 5000 thousand beans per catalog stock test runs and no way Bodhi or any other breeder is able to do that with limit space and plant count numbers in America. I just don't buy it. I think it is more likely that many breeders just find males with desirable traits and then uses that to cross with everything people are hyping about like gsc, og, etc... then they run a few small batches or send out beans for the masses to "test".

Like I mentioned earlier, there was once a time on this forum when subcool was the man, I mean a lot of his threads are still here to remind us of that. Once people "make it" the quality of the work usually suffers. Happens in sports, music, movies and all over.

Like Sativ. mentioned, all the new breeders are just using plants from the dutch companies minus the exception of the clone only phenos. And yes, America did kick it all off with The Sacred Seeds, who was around breeding seeds in america since the 1940s, that Sam the skunk man set up and then robbed their genetics with the help of the DEA. And it is true that a lot of the top strains/lines have european worked lineage. Why, because the Europeans could actually use fields and large warehouse/greenhouses to test large seed batches at a time when you faced death for this in America. Let's not forget that the US DEA was wanting Mark Emery to face the death penalty for selling seeds from Canada! It will be interesting to see is any of these here today gone tomorrow strains will ever be the corner stone of tomorrow's seeds.

one way or another i dont realy care whats over the other side of the land other than whats going on hear in cali, i dont care whats going on in colorado, or canida, or washington, i realy only care if thier is dank in the dankness pollen chuck or acedental chuck or contimplated chuck or breed to be stable!!! i just want DANK!!!!!! thats all but the information was cool thankx I dont have anything against the dutch either??? or anyone. other than logicand im not even shure im still mad at him??

I have never seen a grow/smoke report of a Bodhi strain that disappointed

Can't say the same for any other breeder

Yes Bodhi is about getting great genetics to the world but by no means can you put him in the same category with GHS or any other Dutch breeder as you can't even buy Bodhi genetics everywhere unlike the Dutch breeders. Their shit is on every Seedbank site there is. If there shit is so good how come there shit is always in stock? I only know two places you can even get Bodhi new gear so he definitely not chucking like GHS. I'm not gonna too much more on this cus people have their opinions but I can say he's definitely not chucking and to keep saying that Dutch put America on the map is ludicrous lol when many people in this thread have shown proven facts that Dutch strains are based of American

thenotsoesoteric said:

I agree with that whole heartedly. I've been talking to my bro about this, that weed seeds have became similar to corn seeds. You simply can't produce your own corn seeds with the big Agro companies seed, so you have to keep buying their seeds to see the same results. Two hybrids will never give you either of the originals.

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AFAIK The issue with Monsanto isn't the farmers' actual ability to produce their own seeds, that CAN be done, the issue is that Monsanto sues and bankrupts farmer that attempt to reseed that way, and LEGALLY forbids them from producing their own seeds with Monsanto stock and requires them to re-purchase seeds. Even farmers whose non-Monsanto crops are pollinated by Monsanto crops get sued if they try to use the seeds that produces. But it's all a legal thing, they didn't somehow manage to make seeds that couldn't be reproduced by the people who use them.

And I could be misunderstanding what you mean by "Two hybrids will never give you either of the originals" but that statement is, at least the way I read it, incorrect because of Mendelian genetics and the way they are inherited, which allows us to, given enough time, easily reproduce the originals by breeding and selecting from the hybrids.

Those dutch landraces.

D_Urbmon said:

Those dutch landraces.

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Lol right, been growing in the foothills for generations.

Bodhi is one of the few breeders I know that actively works with landrace strains. That jahruba sounds like a dank cross to me.

I am still confused how bodhi became the target of the pollen chucker witch hunt lol. He doesnt have warehouses to work with so him sticking 4-5 clone only/keeper plants into a room with 1 stud at a time is fine by me. Its not like he doesnt test these "unstable polyhybrid pollen chuck", I should know I am one of those dumbies as sativied put it testing for him

Silly me because you lnow this just looks terrible for a test grow