Possibly A Stupid Question.

bamfrivet

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You can extract the DNA and examine it. I don't think any breeders do this. So you could get your plants DNA, but that wouldn't tell you the strain. There aren't records of different strains DNA as of yet as far as I know. I would love to see this happen so that people will stop paying so much money for seeds. At least then you would have proof that the $80 gran daddy purple you bought were actually what they said they are.
 

grannybonger

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For an example of what I mean is, say you take a plant growing (like bag seed) would you be able to tell its genetics any way besides sativa dom or indica dom ect.

Bagseeds saved me from months of draught being ripped by seed banks. The genetics you speak is the quality of the bag dope. I've grown 2 exceptional plants so far from good Sativa, and made seeds with one from a indica male i had growing, also good thc genetics. This is what you seek, the THC GENES. Good parents good kids.
 

KushisSweet

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For an example of what I mean is, say you take a plant growing (like bag seed) would you be able to tell its genetics any way besides sativa dom or indica dom ect.

Bagseeds saved me from months of draught being ripped by seed banks. The genetics you speak is the quality of the bag dope. I've grown 2 exceptional plants so far from good Sativa, and made seeds with one from a indica male i had growing, also good thc genetics. This is what you seek, the THC GENES. Good parents good kids.

Omg yes! So really all I need is a male to produce offspring of the bag seed I have? I've never pollinated so don't make fun but would it be succesful if I just used another random bagseed male? And how would I go about picking good male? I've always chopped my males so I'm not sure. Or should I take my chances with silver thiosulfate to create a male of a clone from the same plant? Since I have about 4 clones atm

Basically I wanted to know if there was a way to find this strain so I can get my hands on seeds (although I didn't want to experiment but I might take my chances..) then I could save the strain for later... I'm not a breeder so that's why I was asking such the weird question.
 

grannybonger

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It's actually quite easy. From my first sativa bagseed the offspring are growing super good. When you get a male buy which ever means except the force fuck crap (silver thiosulfate) . I got my males from seed banks. Out of 22 seeds i got 3 females and one male 14 complete dudes.

I used that male to pollinate my seeds. Not a good idea to cross two of the same bagseeds. If you get more diffrent bagseeds use them. I smoked some of the male first to see if he had the thc poop and yup so now new seeds now alredy made will be garanteed the same or better than the parents. As a matter of fact i accidently crossed a son clone with it's mom. Son pregoed mom, these will be retarted or natural hermophordites.

Just a paint brush and a private room and dab on few of the bottom budsites and it's a miracle, they pop when there ready, just pickem off let the others finish.
 

KushisSweet

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Thanks for all the info. I think ill give it a shot.. I got bag seeds veggin I hope I get a good male.. kind of sucks though because I will have to chop my females and clone em till I get done with picking a good male. But shoot its more seeds so its worth it especially with this female I have.. some of the best smoke I've had!
 

Gastanker

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Ok so you can, now has anyone done it? Like to tell which strain a plant is. Because even if you get a plants dna code, it would, as you said, be unique so that wouldn't exactly help figuring out exatly what strain it is. Or would it? Just like brother and sister have unique dna even though they came from the same parents. Which is why I said "type of dna" since I'm not very scientific.
Did someone else answer this? Yes you can compare the genetic codes between two plants and determine how related they are.
 

Guile

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In genetic testing I think they look for unique markers biased on the largest representative sample (what they share in common).... I believe its the reason that every test is measured in a percentage of accuracy... I speculate that in order to accurately distinguish genetic "heritage" within a particular plant you would need an accurate sample population to compare it against... As pot becomes more studied and documented it will be easier to say "yes" however in the meanwhile the best answer is "probably some day".

At the same note some day we may be able to describe the most genetically perfect pot plant possible (and it may have never existed to that point).
Its like tracing us back to our earliest African ancestors... what good is it if we are looking to evolve beyond that point (other than comparing to an earlier template)? so all we can really do is compare with what we already know, and speculate beyond...
 
I don't think you would get 1 specific strain if tested there could be 5 or more stains mixed in before you got the bag it came in.
 
A little off-topic:

I wish there was a global pedigree database covering all the strains sold by all the seedbanks, with each seed's breeding history, land of origin, parent history, etc - all that is known and useful to the customer.

Instead some seedbanks prefer to hide information, relying on selling popular-name-fraud-seeds instead.

Not even Mr.Nice want a public pedigree database.

GHS has started a database of terpens-ratios for each strain they sell. It's a start, but far from enough. We need a global pedigree database IMHO.

We need it before Big Pharma start stealing the hard work from seedbanks, and patenting the DNA (which they can't if a seedbank owns it).
 

Guile

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A little off-topic:

I wish there was a global pedigree database covering all the strains sold by all the seedbanks, with each seed's breeding history, land of origin, parent history, etc - all that is known and useful to the customer.

Instead some seedbanks prefer to hide information, relying on selling popular-name-fraud-seeds instead.

Not even Mr.Nice want a public pedigree database.

GHS has started a database of terpens-ratios for each strain they sell. It's a start, but far from enough. We need a global pedigree database IMHO.

We need it before Big Pharma start stealing the hard work from seedbanks, and patenting the DNA (which they can't if a seedbank owns it).
I hate to say it but I believe its the breeders who most want to conceal the genetics they use. Ever notice how many strains came from secret government funded projects or came to exist as the product of a mysterious seed in a "good bag of pot"? Not to mention the names placed on seeds don't seem to be that uniformly defined, different seed company's sell products with similar names then describe different heritage (look into a few Hazes or Cheeses from different breeders).

Unfortunately most this industry is focused squarely on turning excessive profits, one tool in the kit is "Monopoly" by being the only one that can provide a product/service it is much easier to exploit people.
Look at the availability of good productive information on growing (there is plenty out there but you often have to sort through alot of garbage to find it). There is so much misguidance/misrepresentation going on out there (as though people think they are protecting their own profit margin by keeping you from being as productive/successful as possible).
 
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