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There are some private patient groups in O.C. that have formed and are working on getting low cost and in some cases free Meds to those who need it!! If you want any info email me at thraxz132yahoo.com!! I can give you some info!!

Got my 215 med card, what kinda info are you talking about?

As defined more clearly we are allowed to form private patient collectives here in California! I have done that and if you would like some info on doing the same for yourself or on how to go about taking care of yourself, Hit me up!
I am a patient in So.Cal who wants to help himself and others,To be able to take care of their own Medicinal needs!!www.pro215.com check out my site!
If anything we do in life Lets try to fix what the generations before us have so blatantly messed up!!Lets do what we can to leave a green planet for those to come! The tree of Life is all the green plants Gen ch1 verses 27-31, Some of the greenest plants out their have a war against them, What a shame!!
Fight the Industrial Revolution, We need "True Environmental Freedom"!!

A patient collective is what the laws are made for, I have formed a Collective called PRO215 and here is the basis..

1st the collective assumes the primary caregiver for the patient, I have them sign Collective forms and care giver. The collective then grows that patient their required amount, When its ready to be harvested we call that patient and they come over and we harvest the crop.At this point we take 10 percent off the top and put into a Donation pot, Then we split the 90 % left over..
The collective then takes these meds and disposes of them threw a delivery service or to other patients.Each patient is walking away with their free meds.
The monies brought in now are set aside, 10% for state taxes,25 towards a fund,and 5 percent cost, that's 50 percent of all proceeds being donated or given away.
The Fund is called the H.E.M.P. Fund that Im creating I will tell you about down the road, the ten percent in the pot goes to disabled,Low income and vets..
This is the basis and foundation of PRO215. I created this and feel their are great opportunities to be able to help others as well as feel accomplished..
The Laws in California have been made for the patient, Not for the illegal disp.If this sounds interesting to you or like something you would want to be part of hit me up..
http://www.pro215.com/
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wow that sounds cool, i'm in the Santa Monica area tho so a lil too far away

I have a Patient up there that I work with! If you have any ? please feel free to ask.I am in the L.A. area allot! The Valley and Hollywood!

nice work thraxz - just another reason i'm thinking about moving to CA.

Thank you! Im have had the desire and have been doing my own research for twenty years! I started smoking as a teenager, I quit for a year when I went threw a car accident and got strung out on pills for three years. When I was released to go back to work I started smoking again..I quit because I couldn't afford to feed the kids.
I got my Drs recommendation beginning of this year when I decided to do it myself, I cant afford these high prices from the Dispenseries! So then the more I looked into the Laws the more I realized the opurtunity for me to persue some of my dreams..
Cannabis can fix the environment and make every individual free from any form of government. Its the only plant that can be used as a Fuel, Food, Medicine,Clthing Fiber, and Building material! People have be mislead and lied to for so long that the believe what they here and read, but know not the truth because experience and doing is the key to understanding..
The Laws in California have be redifined and clarified so that now we as patients can have some sense of security and also beable to work together in getting our Meds in a safe environment without having to be ripped off and feeling cheated!!
Remember this is a plant a tree if you ask me, One of the parts of the "Tree of Life" Genesis chapter 1 verses 27-31 talks about it..Tell me what other plant is as green and grows as fast and has as much photosynthesis occuring in it as Cannabis Hemp!

how do you address the (imo) legitimate concern re abuse? seems you need a better answer than to treat it like alcohol - and since there aren't social conventions for smoking the potential for abuse is high. don't necessarily mean legal solutions, could just be part of what you do???

Well it depends on what is considered abuse and what is considered recreational by the individual. As adult we do have the right to choose, Whether a person abuses themselves that's up to them, to get help or continue in their addiction is on them to!
The old saying you cant help someone who doesn't want to help them self!
We should have the right to choose though what we use as a Medicine.The social Convictions for smoking are astounding, I don't know if you have met people who don't like Cannabis but I have and have seen their disgust and their looking down at me because I smoke!
Laws are made to benefit and take care of the safety of the people, When they are hurting us and keeping us mislead that's wrong,We as adults should be able to make our own decisions and in California we have! Its only recently that the Governments actually be hearing and listening!

Thraxz13 said:

Well it depends on what is considered abuse and what is considered recreational by the individual. As adult we do have the right to choose, Whether a person abuses themselves that's up to them, to get help or continue in their addiction is on them to!
The old saying you cant help someone who doesn't want to help them self!
We should have the right to choose though what we use as a Medicine.The social Convictions for smoking are astounding, I don't know if you have met people who don't like Cannabis but I have and have seen their disgust and their looking down at me because I smoke!
Laws are made to benefit and take care of the safety of the people, When they are hurting us and keeping us mislead that's wrong,We as adults should be able to make our own decisions and in California we have! Its only recently that the Governments actually be hearing and listening!

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as a libertarian i agree 100% with the sentiment youve expressed. unfortunately, as a political pragmatist i disagree. seems to me part of the resistance to legalization is this issue and unless addressed to the satisfaction of greater society you will not achieve legalization. again, i'm not suggesting government solutions, and i don't have my own solution, i just think this is a problem you need to address.

Well like I said the Key to everything is education and the lack of information, We as a people have been Lied to and misinformed for so long that we dont know Fact from Fiction.
The Bible says my people are oppressed because of lack of knowledge.To me that makes more sense today then ever.Things are changing in the Country and in the world, With the Environment we have no choice but to go green.If it can be used for all the things man needs why isn't it? Why have whole Countries loss thier economies because of the lack of hemp being used as a commodity..
I want change and I want to be able to leave a better future for my children, At the rate were going none of us might be here!As far as a drug goes people who don't smoke wont because its legal, People who don't drink choose not to drink even though its legal. The truth is we will always have people with addictions and people that abuse anything and everything! nothing can prevent or stop these things! Were human! you make great and Valid points though! I love to beable to converse with someone who cares!

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As far as a drug goes people who don't smoke wont because its legal, People who don't drink choose not to drink even though its legal.

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this is where we see things differently.

first, there are lots and lots and yes, lots of people who don;t do things simply because they're illegal. think conservatives. judging from a survey on this site, legalization might triple the number of republican smokers.

second, i think use will increase dramatically simply because of supply and demand. much lower prices means much more usage. and since we can grow our own, the public market price is going to be very low.

and yes, great to talk to someone who cares

Good point, But at what point does government step in and when do we stop having freedom! Does alcohol do better or worse for the Country, same as prescription drugs! Look at what the drug war has done to the Country!

personally, i would only have the government involved to protect minors. i'm more talking about self regulation by the "industry" to provide use education and abuse treatment. i have no specifics on how this might work, i just think its required if you want to get legalization.

I couldnt agree more!

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how do you address the (imo) legitimate concern re abuse? seems you need a better answer than to treat it like alcohol - and since there aren't social conventions for smoking the potential for abuse is high. don't necessarily mean legal solutions, could just be part of what you do???

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It's not his obligation to address any concerns about abuse.

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It's not his obligation to address any concerns about abuse.

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didn't say it was his obligation. i agree with the principal you're stating. i said practically speaking you won;t get pot legalized unless you convince the general public you have a solution to abuse.

Oh... that makes sense... Of course, I don't care at all if it's legalized 100%. While it could be used as a recreational drug, I am only concerned about the medicinal values.

So as long as Prop 215 exists, I will be happy.

If you guys need any clones or flowers for your private group- let me know

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So as long as Prop 215 exists, I will be happy.

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and there's the problem if, like me, you don't live in california.

and there's the problem of the feds, if you're a big medicinal grower.

unless you are trying to make money growing legalization is likely help you too