Propane Coleman stove in a 10x10 greenhouse

Herb & Suds · Oct 28, 2021

CatHedral said:
The smell suggests incomplete combustion. Carbon monoxide liability.

Not when dealing with fueling it
I used to deal with it in ice shacks but it always was revolting

natureboygrower · Oct 28, 2021

CatHedral said:
What are their CO readings? I hope they’re prudent enough to have them. Chronic CO poisoning does not present like the acute “kill you quick” poisoning. It can masquerade as other conditions.
Without quantity/time instrument records, I don’t believe they are safe. Any combustion regime that turns hydrocarbon into combustion products you can smell, I’ll bet money there is clinically detectable CO toxicity.

Not sure on readings but they've been selling the heaters and fuel for years now. Not something I'd want to burn but I've used one while i was building my house. It actually surprised me how clean burning it was.

CatHedral · Oct 28, 2021

Herb & Suds said:
Not when dealing with fueling it
I used to deal with it in ice shacks but it always was revolting

I’m assuming a smell in operation, not spill from fueling.

bam0813 · Oct 28, 2021

natureboygrower said:
Lots of kerosene heaters ( using white kerosene) are used here in the Northeast by those who need to supplement in their homes. Not the best case scenario, but perfectly safe.

I was at a campground once and a family w 2 or 3 kids was running a kerosene heater in a trailer w a built on enclosed room about as long as the trailer. Not sure what happened but they came out in the morning completely black with soot like completely as if they worked a coal mine all day and the inside wasn’t much better. They were alive and surprisingly they were unaffected and didn’t have a clue until the first woke up. Not sure that’s safe though lol it was a long time ago so things were undoubtedly different I’m sure

natureboygrower · Oct 28, 2021

bam0813 said:
I was at a campground once and a family w 2 or 3 kids was running a kerosene heater in a trailer w a built on enclosed room about as long as the trailer. Not sure what happened but they came out in the morning completely black with soot like completely as if they worked a coal mine all day and the inside wasn’t much better. They were alive and surprisingly they were unaffected and didn’t have a clue until the first woke up. Not sure that’s safe though lol it was a long time ago so things were undoubtedly different I’m sure

Yeah not safe LOL. Sounds like she was running a little dirty :bigjoint:

Hey man, a little maintenance needs to be done now and then lol. It's amazing some people make it as long as they do without killing themselves. Probably why everything comes with a warning now.

bam0813 · Oct 28, 2021

I see guys running kerosene heaters in closed spaces all the time on job sites around here. The low flat ones I’m not sure if it’s a local thing but they call them salamanders

natureboygrower · Oct 28, 2021

bam0813 said:
I see guys running kerosene heaters in closed spaces all the time on job sites around here. The low flat ones I’m not sure if it’s a local thing but they call them salamanders

Yeah, those ones will kill you lol ( the jet heater ones) These ones are rated for in home use.

Armillaria caligata · Oct 28, 2021

postmanwatching said:
you don't even need a heater...fill up 55 gallon jugs with water...paint them black...don't tell hank hill I said this but propane is a rip off...

I had seen this "ambient water temp" technique like decades ago and had completely forgotten it. Props for the reminder.

Armillaria caligata · Oct 28, 2021

xtsho said:
Those propane canisters will get spendy real quick.

Particularly that size. I wasn't planning to use them once I acquired a proper heater, which shall likely be in early Dec, because they add up. I thought I would go with the stove at present because I have it on hand.

Sir Napsalot · Oct 28, 2021

I've used Coleman catalytic heaters in tents for years, but not in grow tents

Milky Weed · Oct 28, 2021

You would be much better off with one of these connected to a co2 controller. Amazon Link

postmanwatching · Oct 28, 2021

http://www.milesstair.com/kero_heaters.html
tons of good info. they even made a little mini one you could put in your car...man I remememember my toes freezing in my car before lol...happens fast

Armillaria caligata · Oct 28, 2021

Milky Weed said:
View attachment 5018581You would be much better off with one of these connected to a co2 controller. Amazon Link

I am looking at one of these in future (when I build a bigger greenhouse), precisely because it is specifically built for greenhouse growing.

natureboygrower · Oct 29, 2021

Armillaria caligata said:
I am looking at one of these in future (when I build a bigger greenhouse), precisely because it is specifically built for greenhouse growing.

Keep it mind propane puts out a crazy amount of moisture into the air ( for every gallon of propane burned almost a gallon of h20 is produced) Make sure to budget in a good ventilation/fan system.

Armillaria caligata · Oct 29, 2021

natureboygrower said:
Keep it mind propane puts out a crazy amount of moisture into the air ( for every gallon of propane burned almost a gallon of h20 is produced) Make sure to budget in a good ventilation/fan system.

I am thinking of one intake and one exhaust inline fan at each end. Will that do for a 10 x 10 x 7 tent?

Roger A. Shrubber · Oct 29, 2021

seriously, if the coldest it gets at night is 55, i wouldn't do shit, all that's going to do is bring out any natural colors in your buds. the residual heat trapped in your greenhouse should easily keep it warm enough to not even slow down growth at those temps...

postmanwatching · Oct 29, 2021

Roger A. Shrubber said:
seriously, if the coldest it gets at night is 55, i wouldn't do shit, all that's going to do is bring out any natural colors in your buds. the residual heat trapped in your greenhouse should easily keep it warm enough to not even slow down growth at those temps...

once the temp drops below a certain temp in the rootzone the growing slows down a lot
i wonder how much btu a little homemade olive oil lamp puts out or soybean oil lamp...smokeless and cheap and if yo knockover a olive oil lamp you wont catch yourself on fire lol..maybe light like 10 lamps or something lol idk how the smell would be

seriosly with propane you might have to refill it so many times the crackheads at walmart probably start starlking you wondering what you are using it for.

Roger A. Shrubber · Oct 29, 2021

postmanwatching said:
once the temp drops below a certain temp in the rootzone the growing slows down a lot
i wonder how much btu a little homemade olive oil lamp puts out or soybean oil lamp...smokeless and cheap and if yo knockover a olive oil lamp you wont catch yourself on fire lol..maybe light like 10 lamps or something lol idk how the smell would be

seriosly with propane you might have to refill it so many times the crackheads at walmart probably start starlking you wondering what you are using it for.

pick your pots up off the ground, set them on 2x4s, and run the aforementioned oil filled heater on low...

Autodoctor · Oct 29, 2021

Sounds like a like gonna be costly with anything other than an electric oil filled heater. Make sure u figure what it’s gonna cost.

Autodoctor · Oct 29, 2021

Plus open flame not sure if would be considered a light leak at night

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