Properly flush weed vs unflush weed

Lordhooha

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Ok then, none of this is relevant to the discussion, continue on talking to yourself.

Nice subtle flex on your outdated degrees btw.
So your saying what I stated has nothing to do with flushing or the the flush no flush debate. As for my degrees they're definitely not out dated nor are my certifications from compliance, cisco, or Microsoft, went to ferris state for my horticultural degree and NMC in traverse city for my computer science focused on network engineering infrastructure. Its.cool though it's what gives the ability to build my buildings and grow weed like I do. So have fun pimping lol.
 

Budzbuddha

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I did everybody a “ solid “ … an in home flush test.

Parameters of test : 2 big bite hotdogs from 7/11 … Monster ultra gold for electrolytes… sketchy onions and relish

30 minutes later dropped the most heinous Deuce ….. 3 x amount flush with PH “ piss “ ( I’m 6.4 ph )
Flushing did not affect “ odor or taste “ ….. moved to step 2 : Glade 1/2 can - Hawaiian Breeze . No change.

Conclusion : Flushing doesn’t do shit …. Shit still Smells Dank regardless of flush


Your Welcome.
 

mile.high

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So your saying what I stated has nothing to do with flushing or the the flush no flush debate. As for my degrees they're definitely not out dated nor are my certifications from compliance, cisco, or Microsoft, went to ferris state for my horticultural degree and NMC in traverse city for my computer science focused on network engineering infrastructure. Its.cool though it's what gives the ability to build my buildings and grow weed like I do. So have fun pimping lol.
No I said what you said had nothing to do with what I said so stop responding to me.

FWIW I dropped out 3 years into a CS degree 14 years ago. Best decision of my life and I’m still in the industry. Didn’t get the horticultural degree but multiple members of my family are regular speakers at those kinds of conferences. We probably have a lot of the same skills, but both those degrees for most programs are stuck in the 80s and not really relevant today.
 

Lordhooha

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I did everybody a “ solid “ … an in home
No I said what you said had nothing to do with what I said so stop responding to me.

FWIW I dropped out 3 years into a CS degree 14 years ago. Best decision of my life and I’m still in the industry. Didn’t get the horticultural degree but multiple members of my family are regular speakers at those kinds of conferences. We probably have a lot of the same skills, but both those degrees for most programs are stuck in the 80s and not really relevant today.
Your just bitching about a study from a lady a had done you don't agree with. 14 years ago damn son I think you might be outdated lol.
 

mile.high

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Your just bitching about a study from a lady a had done you don't agree with. 14 years ago damn son I think you might be outdated lol.
Not outdated at all, I learn something new everyday. Like I said, still in the industry, and lucky to have customers much smarter than I am.

Yes I have multiple issues with this study, none of which have been refuted. You want to talk about flushing and not use it as a source, go ahead, I’m not here to argue with that.

How anyone with a horticultural degree could look at this study and conclude to continue feeding in the last two weeks is beyond comprehension. Unless the scale is tiny it makes no sense.
 

Obepawn

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I noticed when I do not flush the buds stay lime green. Smell is ok and smokes so harsh but looks amazing.

When I properly flush my buds 2 weeks before harvest they look darker. Smell is so amazing and the smoke is so smooth and very flavorful. But dosent look stunning as a bud that didn't get a proper flush.

Its not the way I dry my unflush weed looks amazing. But I can't even smoke it.
Trap thread.
 

Budzbuddha

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To put the nail in the coffin ….

https://atrium.lib.uoguelph.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10214/12125/Stemeroff_Jonathan_201712_Msc_with_erratum.pdf?sequence=8&isAllowed=y

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Still, you can’t wash it out and the plant has no means of expelling it.

Remember plants can’t poop or pee. Plants can only expel CO2 and water vapor. Everything else stays in there. Once you get an element inside the plant, it’s like Hotel California… You can check out any time you like… but you can never leave!

On pages 58, 59 and 60 you will find graphs showing that no matter how they tried to “flush” the plants out, the tissues still contained statistically identical amounts of the various major plant nutritional elements N-P-K-Ca-Mg-S and other elements.
 

mile.high

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On pages 58, 59 and 60 you will find graphs showing that no matter how they tried to “flush” the plants out, the tissues still contained statistically identical amounts of the various major plant nutritional elements N-P-K-Ca-Mg-S and other elements.
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So you agree the only logical conclusion to this data is to stop feeding all nutrients 2 weeks before harvest?
 

Porky1982

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Actually many growers need to flush their grow medium. Not because it makes the weed smoke better but because they overfeed their plants and dump a gazillion gallons of bloom boosters on them. The grow medium is so toxic that flushing is probably the only way to keep the plant alive until harvest. Even then they end up with KFC plants that all the uneducated growers think look awesome.

Take this for example. All the people following that canuck clown on youtube raving about his crappy grows of fried to a crisp plants.

Yes these plants should have had the medium flushed out due to extreme overfeeding by a crappy grower.

And now I bring you the canuck. Nice plants huh? And he flushes.

Ohhh that's fucking ugly!!!
 

Hollatchaboy

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To put the nail in the coffin ….

https://atrium.lib.uoguelph.ca/xmlui/bitstream/handle/10214/12125/Stemeroff_Jonathan_201712_Msc_with_erratum.pdf?sequence=8&isAllowed=y

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Still, you can’t wash it out and the plant has no means of expelling it.

Remember plants can’t poop or pee. Plants can only expel CO2 and water vapor. Everything else stays in there. Once you get an element inside the plant, it’s like Hotel California… You can check out any time you like… but you can never leave!

On pages 58, 59 and 60 you will find graphs showing that no matter how they tried to “flush” the plants out, the tissues still contained statistically identical amounts of the various major plant nutritional elements N-P-K-Ca-Mg-S and other elements.
So what exactly are you trying to say? Lol
 

Budzbuddha

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Matter of fact …. The host medium of “ flushers ” ( soil ) is the glaring fact that is still somewhat charged after flushing …. Not cleaned just LEACHED a bit. So the STORED elements in plant are STILL THERE not in runoff water - in the tissue of the plant.
 

PadawanWarrior

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No … plant is alive til you kill it , I ween the feed down at end , not starve it.
An obvious observation at end is that plant still uptakes water , so it is still feeding.
I though you were just top dressing with more FFOF and not using nutes. Are you using chemicals and buying more FFOF each time? Just curious. Nothing wrong with that.
 

Budzbuddha

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I though you were just top dressing with more FFOF and not using nutes. Are you using chemicals and buying more FFOF each time? Just curious. Nothing wrong with that.
Those topdressed layer mixes I do and use merely keeps that original amount of container “ charged / refreshed “ as plant goes on. That’s why that method can carry an auto fully to harvest by supplementing for depletion / use. It is a WATER ONLY run … so it’s not truly leaching only hydration as plant uptakes. Even if harvest is in a week or so … last topfeed is still viable for use.

FFOF layered mix is reused for germ cups after …. Only bottles I have are Armor SI , Kelp , Calmag .
Everything else is from medium.

There are even some growers trying to FLUSH miracle grow soil - “ pelletized “ fert . BTW feeds EVERYTIME grower waters.
Imagine trying to “ flush “ that .
 

PadawanWarrior

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Those topdressed layer mixes I do and use merely keeps that original amount of container “ charged / refreshed “ as plant goes on. That’s why that method can carry an auto fully to harvest by supplementing for depletion / use. It is a WATER ONLY run … so it’s not truly leaching only hydration as plant uptakes. Even if harvest is in a week or so … last topfeed is still viable for use.

FFOF layered mix is reused for germ cups after …. Only bottles I have are Armor SI , Kelp , Calmag .
Everything else is from medium.

There are even some growers trying to FLUSH miracle grow soil - “ pelletized “ fert . BTW feeds EVERYTIME grower waters.
Imagine trying to “ flush “ that .
You're not watering to runoff then if you're organic correct? I'm actually still using my FFOF from 3 years ago, but it's been amended. Still learning no-till though.
 

Budzbuddha

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You're not watering to runoff then if you're organic correct? I'm actually still using my FFOF from 3 years ago, but it's been amended. Still learning no-till though.
Not really … I do get “ a little “ because the mixes get hydrophobic at times so I have “ bathe “ them in a catch pan to water sometimes. I should look into yucca as a wetting agent … just lazy about that.
 
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