Or_Gro
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They also grow well...w/wo the cosmetics...
QB96 Elite V2 w/ SSTX heatsink question
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hybridway2
Amare Shill
Yeah but my fancy lights get me so much ass. Lol! I polish them bitches up before a semi-trusted date enters the room n Bang, just like that, Niagra Falls man. Lol! For real!!!
Between these & the Bar-8, I think I'm gonna Mac the fly chick that works at the grow store. ; )
Honeys Dig Shiny Bright lights!
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Or_Gro
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Pics or it didn’t happen...
hybridway2
Amare Shill
These r cool!!! 
Randomblame
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Yepp, they starting to get clowds between the veins cuz of a mg deficit caused by too much calcium uptake. You can simply reduce the EC by 25-50% to avoid that until you get the humidity issues fixed.
With a lower EC you can compensate a too high VPD. VPD 20% too high means you need 20% less nutrient strength and because plants take up more water they still get the same amount of nutes and stay healthy.
BTW,
distance is 20-24" currently and I've removed the spreaders since I have seen you measurements. Its a bit strange that you only get ~260μW/cm² at 2ft distance with the Agromax bulbs and I'm still thinking why. Is the reflector surface somehow coated or is it a wide angle reflector?
Today its day 4 without spreaders(bloom day 15) and there are no issues with 3h per day. They already slow down stretching because of the cold ambient temps at night(15°C max.) and today I will add the trellis and LST them to the same height.
I want the fixture at ~16" and hope I can do it without the spreaders. If not, I can add them again to reduce UVB strength or simply try it with only 2 hours the day.
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Randomblame
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Crazy how the HPS light looks almost green! Pretty sure it turned green for spectrum and output envy, lol!
CoB_nUt
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Never noticed the lenses. Thatnis a nice shot of the hps looking green.
Imlike all the different lighting technologies on display in the room. Nicely done @hybridway2
Imlike all the different lighting technologies on display in the room. Nicely done @hybridway2
Or_Gro
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Thanks on that vpd/ec rule of thumb. When i moved them to own buckets, i dropped ec 30% on the 4 new buckets - they’re much better. 2 in orginal buckets & ec: jack herer, no change no prob; green crack very sensitive got 3-day flush, then lower ec, still doing it..will dilute again.
Here is reflector - sunblaze t-5
The arcadia’s are brand new, the agromaxes have less than 100 hrs. Perhaps it’s related to burn in. Could even be a warmup issue. Due to rewiring project, i can’t do any more testing til i get reset. I’ll test periodically when i get agromax going after clones are rooted.
Or_Gro
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Thanks for pics.
Nice setup in there, man! Quite the organized and well-lit jungle!
Looks like your e360’s are kickin hps bootay!
So, chinese dimmable driver, 160w/96. Where's dimmer? What wattage and ht you running them at? How’s the heat off drivers and sinks?
So, looks like cosmetics are valued at same amount as bds + driver, ~ $400:$400. Imo, too bad, i woulda put total price cosmetics:bds+driver @ $200:$400, to drive volume/acceptance w/ discount on multiples (-> $1000-1200 or less per 4x4)..wonder what price is to commercial buyers?
They are targeting cmh and hps segment, right?
Gotta get some new marketing pros to go with new prods and facility....
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Randomblame
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Okay, I've googled them and the describtion says its optimized for diffusion and wide angled distibution. But it looks like the reflector surface has a white powder coating and if its not made especially to reflect also UVB some of the light can get lost because of the coating.
Blank or polished metal surfaces are much better for UVB reflection. You can easily test it by sticking some aluminum foil on the reflector surface of one lamp and then test them again. Lux measuring would probably go down but UV numbers would be higher..
But in the end... Who know for what its good..? 100μW/cm² at 2ft distance is pretty good and 3,6kJ/m²/h is not too much.
If you can avoid using a spreader that way it have its own benefit.
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Was wondering if you could tell me a lil about the equipment you're using & how much it all cost? Sure u prob already did this so directing me there is fine too. Thnx!
Also, I meant to say, does the UV bulbs show up much on the meter when measured as the total spectrum with everything else going. ?
Thanks again for the mapping. Made me feel more confident when determining hanging location. I went 26.5" on Center between the 2 & they come 24" on center.
Not really shooting fir an even ppfd across cuz I'd like a lil spread to get between them. Although it looks pretty damn even.
Or_Gro
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I have a variety of tents 2x3, 3x3, several 4x4; several kind leds (3 & 5w, blurple w/ ir uv); 2 timber 48sams (4x 288 each), 8x96 elites, multiple qb35, multiple growbright far red bars, multiple 2’ arcadia uv reptile lights in reflectors, multiple t-5 agromaxes 2’ and 4’, multiple qb11 (blues); mutiple titan co2, environmental, light controllers; bluefish led controller; hvac; dwc; etc.
I don’t run it all same time. The timber w supplemental reds, uv, and co2; titan controllers, all used in recently finished grow: https://www.rollitup.org/t/extreme-flowering-under-pair-of-timber-48sams.974039/page-32
Sekonic spectrometer (does PAR & far red spectrum, but not uv); apogee quantum (ppfd) meter; solarmeter uv radiometer; several lux meters.
Dulytech clamshell resin press; pollen extractor; access to: pure pressure pikes peak resin press & soon, original resinator multi-use concentrator (looking forward to trying my hand at live resin).
Lol, never listed it all out... what a grow addict?
With your size setup and lights, you really need a ppfd meter.
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Or_Gro
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Will test w foil, when i get reset. Thx
Randomblame
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BTW,
Apogee has a new sensor especially made to show UV spectra. @INF Flux has postet a video with the guy from Lumigro and he's using the new sensor. He mentioned the correct name but I forget it already, lol! I believe AR-100 but AR could be wrong. If interested start lookin from minute 5 cause he needs 5 minutes to get his setup working.
When the light goes on today and I've found two leaves with upwards curled margins. Maybe because of the removed spreader..?! But they got the trellis today and many stems are now bent down. The also get a 2nd leg shave and stripping. So maybe its because of the LST?!
I'll see it in the next few days and if it goes further I will either add the spreader or reduce on times to 2x 1h.
Or_Gro
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Thx, i’ll check it out.
Well, if it's uv, you should know pretty quickly,you’ll be exposing a lot of less exposed areas w bending & defol..
hybridway2
Amare Shill
Yy
It looks so green cuz it's a Thouie MH Daylight Blue from "15" turned down to like 400w. It peaks in green anyways but loses even more blue & red when you turn it down. Massive amounts of 380-425 though & red.
Really like the look of the spectrum on these.
Haha! Output & Spectrum envy. There is quite the variety of nice spectrum going in here now that I think about it. Standing back it looks pretty cool.
Thank man!
It looks so green cuz it's a Thouie MH Daylight Blue from "15" turned down to like 400w. It peaks in green anyways but loses even more blue & red when you turn it down. Massive amounts of 380-425 though & red.
Really like the look of the spectrum on these.
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hybridway2
Amare Shill
From the looks of it 2 of these 96's cover even better then 3 cobs. Prob 3'-3.5'wide coverage I stead of 2'-2.5'.
Honestly I was really sceptical about 4 covering the 4x4 but they sure enough do. And then some. Pretty even to the eye as well.
They definitely work best in pairs as with any single light source.
OrGro I have more questions about your tools. Nice list. Yeah, me too, piled with grow gear. You're running off 220 I presume? Titan control boxes are converters right.
Why all the tents, independent testing ?
Honestly I was really sceptical about 4 covering the 4x4 but they sure enough do. And then some. Pretty even to the eye as well.
They definitely work best in pairs as with any single light source.
OrGro I have more questions about your tools. Nice list. Yeah, me too, piled with grow gear. You're running off 220 I presume? Titan control boxes are converters right.
Why all the tents, independent testing ?
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linderstein
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impressive, HLG is doing very well, it seems that the chip luminus is very efficient, the reds are also luminus?
Or_Gro
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Hey man feel free to pm me, if you have ?s
Most of their light controllers are 220, but i’m runnin a couple Hades2 and a couple Saturn6 as the main controllers, off reg 3-prongs.
Not sure their cost/performance vs other brands, but they do what i need.
I have diff tent/setups for propagation, veg, flower...use as needed...right now just runnin a 2x3 for prop, sometimes runnin all three types.
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