Quantum Boards / Too much Yapping no proof

Ok this is my 1 year anniversary with quantum boards.
240 w 400 k ( dimmed ) in 2x4 tent veg.
600 w 3000 k with red and uv (dimmed) 4x4 flower tent.
After using HPS and quantum boards I have to say hps is easier to get big dense buds with. I hear a whole bunch of numbers chucked around from guys who have a lot of gadgets and very little experience ( not many white whiskers on their chin )
Most of the advice you hear about distance from the canopy is absolutely wrong .... you will fry your plants . All this crap about cal mag and on is guys guys putting lights too close ..... its that simple.
After a year and almost 5 crops I will give them this:
1 . They are safer and cooler.
2. They save power .
But , what did you save getting less weight in hard dense bud ? Thats what its about.
A lot of my crop is now only good for making ice hash , then rosin so it doesn’t mold.
4 , 6 , and 1000 hps all grow bigger and more dense tops than Quantum boards.
This is not to say that its the wrong choice because the safety thing is major consideration.
I will continue because my grow is a small legal hobby in canada. My point here is that now that I have a fair bit of experience with both , these guys spouting numbers are doing just that.

What kind of LED lights are you using?

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Welcome back kingrow1

My weights increased. User error on your end imo.

So you're saying if you were given two buds that were identical strains you would be able to tell which one was grown under LED and which bud was grown under something that wasn't. That is pretty damn impressive. Actually no it wouldn't be that impressive if it was that obvious.

I’m yet to run hps, even with my whiskers my first real light was a 315 CMH 4K & 3k. I’m comparing my 260 v1 in a 3x3. At this point in the grow my plants seem about the same..what I was surprised about was the fact it seemed to produce the same amount of heat.. and maybe it’s just me...but these are some very strong lights and seem to be kept further away. Could be me though!!

iPerculate said:

What kind of LED lights are you using?

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HLG 600

Hempire828 said:

I’m yet to run hps, even with my whiskers my first real light was a 315 CMH 4K & 3k. I’m comparing my 260 v1 in a 3x3. At this point in the grow my plants seem about the same..what I was surprised about was the fact it seemed to produce the same amount of heat.. and maybe it’s just me...but these are some very strong lights and seem to be kept further away. Could be me though!!

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The 2 lights have near enough the same wattage so similar amounts of heat are produced.

Cobs or go home...
I like cobs myself, dense nugs and all.

MrNorth said:

Ok this is my 1 year anniversary with quantum boards.
240 w 400 k ( dimmed ) in 2x4 tent veg.
600 w 3000 k with red and uv (dimmed) 4x4 flower tent.
After using HPS and quantum boards I have to say hps is easier to get big dense buds with. I hear a whole bunch of numbers chucked around from guys who have a lot of gadgets and very little experience ( not many white whiskers on their chin )
Most of the advice you hear about distance from the canopy is absolutely wrong .... you will fry your plants . All this crap about cal mag and on is guys guys putting lights too close ..... its that simple.
After a year and almost 5 crops I will give them this:
1 . They are safer and cooler.
2. They save power .
But , what did you save getting less weight in hard dense bud ? Thats what its about.
A lot of my crop is now only good for making ice hash , then rosin so it doesn’t mold.
4 , 6 , and 1000 hps all grow bigger and more dense tops than Quantum boards.
This is not to say that its the wrong choice because the safety thing is major consideration.
I will continue because my grow is a small legal hobby in canada. My point here is that now that I have a fair bit of experience with both , these guys spouting numbers are doing just that.

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I bought a Canadian light Bc blonds for half a 4x8.Ran it dimmed down and got 2lbs at 350w veg and switched to 525w in flower. Try that with hps.

MrNorth said:

Ok this is my 1 year anniversary with quantum boards.
240 w 400 k ( dimmed ) in 2x4 tent veg.
600 w 3000 k with red and uv (dimmed) 4x4 flower tent.
After using HPS and quantum boards I have to say hps is easier to get big dense buds with. I hear a whole bunch of numbers chucked around from guys who have a lot of gadgets and very little experience ( not many white whiskers on their chin )
Most of the advice you hear about distance from the canopy is absolutely wrong .... you will fry your plants . All this crap about cal mag and on is guys guys putting lights too close ..... its that simple.
After a year and almost 5 crops I will give them this:
1 . They are safer and cooler.
2. They save power .
But , what did you save getting less weight in hard dense bud ? Thats what its about.
A lot of my crop is now only good for making ice hash , then rosin so it doesn’t mold.
4 , 6 , and 1000 hps all grow bigger and more dense tops than Quantum boards.
This is not to say that its the wrong choice because the safety thing is major consideration.
I will continue because my grow is a small legal hobby in canada. My point here is that now that I have a fair bit of experience with both , these guys spouting numbers are doing just that.

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Great post. I did a 1yr test using several high LEDS. Valoya, Fluence, Ecospeed, Cali light works, King Spectrum and a few others and came to the exact same conclusion. Another thing I noticed they matured a bit quicker under but never quite got the size. I think they're ok it all depends on one's person circumstances, Budget, Climate, Experience and so forth.

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HLG 600

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Since when does Horticulture Lighting Group make an HLG 600 "w 3000 k with red and uv"?

Unless you were running separate supplemental lights? If not, where'd you purchase the light?

I'm also curious about any plant training you do and what is your average temperature/humidity lights on and lights off.

BTW I have more than a few white whiskers on my chin.

MrNorth said:

Most of the advice you hear about distance from the canopy is absolutely wrong .... you will fry your plants. All this crap about cal mag and on is guys guys putting lights too close ..... its that simple.

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How close are you running your boards? What advice are you referring to?

I'd like to see some actual numbers, not seat of your pants observations. I'm no scientist, but this doesn't sound like a very scientific conclusion. You would need to have two identical grow setups, identical strains, and record data a few times a day at the least. It would be a very time and energy consuming affair, but that's the only way to offer a fact based assessment. There were 0 numbers in your post. Something like "HPS produced 425 grams, with a total power cost of $253 over a 16 week period", compared to QB which produced 315 grams, with a total power cost of $127 dollars, over a 16 week period" would be much more informative than how dense the nugs are.

The stats (QB mega thread) say you're wrong with that general & broad assessment. They sell like hot cakes for a reason.

MrNorth said:

Most of the advice you hear about distance from the canopy is absolutely wrong .... you will fry your plants . All this crap about cal mag and on is guys guys putting lights too close ..... its that simple.

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Yep. The internet is full of people frying their seedlings with quantum boards. It's ridiculous.

lilbeanmerchant said:

Yep. The internet is full of people frying their seedlings with quantum boards. It's ridiculous.

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the QBs fault for sure...

Barristan Whitebeard said:

Since when does Horticulture Lighting Group make an HLG 600 "w 3000 k with red and uv"?

Unless you were running separate supplemental lights? If not, where'd you purchase the light?

I'm also curious about any plant training you do and what is your average temperature/humidity lights on and lights off.

BTW I have more than a few white whiskers on my chin.

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They do have a HLG 600, but it doesn't have UV. I highly doubt this is what he has though.

HPS is dead technology and if you want to waste your money pumping out heat and blasting your plants with IR, fine. And if you used an HLG quantum board based lights, and grew a strains that should have dense buds ( not all do genetically ), YOU did something. I get buds so dense, grown under my Diablo lights, they can be hard to grind. Fluffy S loses every time. There's a good reason that I, a long time grower, switched to LED. Superior bud! Dense, terpene rich buds with high THC levels that have been way beyond any HPS grow I ever had.

And states are starting to crack down on energy consumption by home growers. several states are considering taxing you for electricity use they consider to be "beyond normal consumption.

I grow more bud with less energy use, in fact I cut my grow pwer useage from 2200kwh/hr to 1200khw/hr and grow more bud.

here's a Pineapple Poison grown under a Diablo light, running at 400 watts