Quick ISO hash questions..

Rottedroots

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I have made a couple of little batches of ISO hash and it works but I am left with a couple of questions??:leaf:
I haven't seen anyone do it in any videos but is there any reason I can't use the same alcohol on say five half mason jars of trim and then strain it? I just figure I could use the least impressive "trim" for the first three or four batches and then finish up with lots of sweet little trash buddage I may someday regret not saving Ha Ha. IDK but could I just use the same bottle of alcohol until all the trim is gone and go for the mega batch of hash?
Does it matter if the material is fresh, dry, frozen, chopped or what have you? Thanks!!:D
 

gioua

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it matters to me when I do frozen bath of dried cured buds tried it before with frozen fresh not bad results in a pinch..

i freeze my crushed buds for a few hours and the iso and then toss it in a baggie and mix then cut the edge of the baggie strain let dry (usually done with a heat gun or hair dryer) or the sun..

I wont do HUGE batches over say 2 or 3 oz at a time since it's a PITA to dry and the iso warms up and I it's best really cold to knock off more trichs


if you dont grind it up your not getting all of the plant matter exposed to knock off trichs


hope it helps some..
 

Rottedroots

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Thank you very much gioua. :D.
So I should pretty much pulverize the material first? Do you think the temperature of the alcohol really makes a difference?

This is the biggest question I have this point gioua or anyone else. **** can I just use the same alcohol over and over again. If I strained the alcohol mixture back into a bottle can I just keep using it all seasons and do 1 final drying?
In closing I would sure be curious if someone could summarize the difference between butane hash and alcohol hash. ?? I gots to know because I am taking a run over to the depot to see if I can MacGyver the stuff needed? Rock on guys and gals and thanks again:D
 

gioua

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temp makes a diff really cold stuff compared to luke warm cold stuff freezes the trich stem makes it brittle.. luke warm will remove slower

and yeah I think you can reuse it.. dont see a reason not too other then it being a PITA... I would strain it over the smallest filter you have each time too.

I personally would not reuse it more then once but I am sure others have done it and have other ops...

butane hash more $$ some "hash snob purest" will only use this stuff
butane maybe illegal to run thru mmj so check your st.


iso cheap some say you can taste the ISO

I have done pretty much all the solvents cant tell a dif in any of them in taste or amount of return...

if I run a batch like I just did on some chem jack I used ISO... have done cold water bho etc..

it's gonna be what ever way you like it anyhow so do what you feel is easiest and cheapest.
 

PJ Diaz

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I don't have any scientific explanation to prove it, but I figure that iso has some sort of thc saturation level, and for maximum extraction you should use fresh iso on every batch.
 

Rottedroots

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[SUP][/SUP]I hope you're wrong PJ. I used the same bottle of alcohol for 8 batches of trim? It's blacker than a woman's heart with a little bit of green. I actually think it looks black but it's really dark green. If it ever evaporates it's going to be some scary s***. Live and learn I guess:D
 

Rottedroots

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First off in my defense..:-? I was/am mindlessly screwing around. May well have wasted a pile of trim. I do think I MOST of the bottles of trim soaked too long. I think I disolved a bunch of stuff I shouldn't have. The trichomes being on the surface of the material probably disolve very quickly. Like I said.. Just fuuking around. :neutral:

PJ I think your right about a saturation level. I think 2 or three would be fine but by jar eight of trim it's a pretty viscous fluid that does not want to go thru a filter that's for sure. I don't think the swill is black but rather really dark green with a shitload of chlorophyll. Can't provide a B4 wieght but I'm guessing a great yield really foul shit. lol.:roll:

Curious if the temp made a difference. Some bottles hung out in the freezer but I was thinking without support that iso disolves rather than makes trichomes brittle like a cold extraction method. Not that I think the cold would hurt anything. :D :dunce:


 

gioua

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cant say for sure if the cold is 100% needed...
but my thoughts were if cold water freezes the trichs and knocks them off the iso would as well + more based on it being a solvent.
 

Rottedroots

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And you know gioua I don't know enough to even argue with you. I'm thinking without knowing that the cold is not needed but isn't going to hurt anything.
 

PJ Diaz

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The other reason I don't like to reuse my iso on multiple batches is because the dry trim robs some of your precious solvent on each run. I would guess you love around 10% with every run. I usually run another quick purge with a smaller amount of fresh iso on the same batch of trim just to purge out the excess that would otherwise be left behind real quick.

I usually do runs of 20g of quality trim to 16oz of iso for 30 seconds. Then quickly strain that out to a separate container, and then do a 2nd wash for about 15 seconds with just 8 oz or so. I get a 10%+ return of quality oil with this method.

I also make sure everything is super cold, including trim, jars, and iso.
 
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