Raspberry Cough DWC Grow

Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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DSCN0493.jpgDSCN0491.jpgDSCN0492.jpgDSCN0489.jpgDSCN0490.jpgOkay, so if you can tell from the pics there are weird orange spots on the sugar leaves of one of my girls. its just the sugar leaves on the main bud and only on one plant in the whole grow ( the same plant that always has random problems while the others don't. Don't know what this is. nutes are fresh, ph is good and the leaves actually feel normal and the spots are somewhat uniform on the leaves. dont know whether to call it a problem or just a weird genetic trait. need your guys opinions please, nvever seen this before.
 
LunaSetti

LunaSetti

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Could it be heat stress? Are the leaves curling or anything? I know some of my strains like a very high pH, like almost 7.0, whereas others won't tolerate anything over 6.0. Some have no problems when temps soar and others show stress at 80 degrees. I'd also check the underside of the leaves for bugs. Are you noticing any abnormal coloring on the lowest part of the main stem (spots maybe)?
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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LunaSetti said:
Could it be heat stress? Are the leaves curling or anything? I know some of my strains like a very high pH, like almost 7.0, whereas others won't tolerate anything over 6.0. Some have no problems when temps soar and others show stress at 80 degrees. I'd also check the underside of the leaves for bugs. Are you noticing any abnormal coloring on the lowest part of the main stem (spots maybe)?
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Heat stress, no Im using floros and cfl. temps never get higher than 75. no leaf curl at all. They all seem to be happy with a ph of 5.8 its been as high as 6.4 with no problems. nothing on underside or any discoloration to speak of. I check daily for hermies and bugs and have neither. really dont know wtf is going on with it. seems healthy just weird spots. there was some tip burn on all the plants but it hasnt progressed in almost a week, just got the spots today or maybe yesterday
 
LunaSetti

LunaSetti

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Could be a fluke thing. I've had heat stress using floros (t5's) and CFL's before, but usually that only exibits on the tips of the leaves. If they look healthy and you keep an eye on em daily I wouldn't worry unless it really starts spreading. How long before they are done?
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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LunaSetti said:
Could be a fluke thing. I've had heat stress using floros (t5's) and CFL's before, but usually that only exibits on the tips of the leaves. If they look healthy and you keep an eye on em daily I wouldn't worry unless it really starts spreading. How long before they are done?
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Uh if you go by the eleven week mark then around june 12th. gonna start flushing the last week of this month though.
 
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DocGreenThumb

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My LA's have some bright orange round spots on the leaves around the buds. I think they want more food, Not sure though. I noticed my RBC's drink way more (in soil) than my Indica strains.

They also have a much larger root system than my Indicas of around the same age.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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DocGreenThumb said:
My LA's have some bright orange round spots on the leaves around the buds. I think they want more food, Not sure though. I noticed my RBC's drink way more (in soil) than my Indica strains.

They also have a much larger root system than my Indicas of around the same age.
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Okay, next week I'll bring up the strength alil and see if they like it. I think its just that one plants pheno cuz none of the others freak out with every lil change like that one.

Dude, I'm up to three gallons every two days in my res. Yup roots are massive on mine, they didnt all intertwine either they kinda grew into thick ropes and snake around the bottom of the res.
 
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DocGreenThumb

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Yeah it's amazing how these sativa roots grow. The rule of thumb for soil is 1 gallon per month of growth and I had to transplant the RBC's from 3 gallon containers to 5 gallon at day 40 from the day I started germinating them. I see the RBC mom being a monster when she is flowered. She matured fast has a few long pistils under 24/0 of 250watt MH.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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DocGreenThumb said:
Yeah it's amazing how these sativa roots grow. The rule of thumb for soil is 1 gallon per month of growth and I had to transplant the RBC's from 3 gallon containers to 5 gallon at day 40 from the day I started germinating them. I see the RBC mom being a monster when she is flowered. She matured fast has a few long pistils under 24/0 of 250watt MH.
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God that is quick. There was a thread floating around on here awhile back where a guy decided to grow a tree indoors. He was using something like a 55 gallon pot with an even bigger tub for a res beneath it.
Damn, imagine what shed do under a 1000 watt MH!
 
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DocGreenThumb

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Awesome I was reading about experiments with raising the water level during veg and lowering during flower, how the plant reacts to it and increasing potency/yield. I can't find where I read this now though. I'll keep reading and let you know. Hell maybe you've read it before.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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DocGreenThumb said:
Awesome I was reading about experiments with raising the water level during veg and lowering during flower, how the plant reacts to it and increasing potency/yield. I can't find where I read this now though. I'll keep reading and let you know. Hell maybe you've read it before.
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Nope, havent read that before but it seems like I should have. Think I'll start looking for that thread too.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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5/6/11 Update: Came home to more of those rust colored spots on the leaves. General consensus is that it's some type of deficiency so I did a res change and brought the nutes up to a heavy feeding schedule (24 teaspoons of A and B) Ph'd the water to exactly 5.8 and even brought the water level up alil closer to see if that helps. I cut off all the tips of leaves that had burn on them from earlier in the grow and made mental notes of where the rust colored spots are forming. Should Know in a day or two if theyre better or worse.

The trichs are starting to get alil bit milky so hopefully another two to three weeks and I can start flushing.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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FLOWERING DAY 40. all the power to my grow room somehow got cut off last night, thankfully I always wake up at eight to crack the door and noticed nothing was on. Otherwise the smell seems to have intensified into a deeper more pungent berry smell when up close. Alot of the lower buds have more than half of there hairs turned a dark caramel color while less than a quarter of the hairs on the main colas have turned from white. Looks like shes definitely gonna go another 30 days if not more.

I feel like these buds could be filling out better under HPS, anyone have good experiences with L.E.D ? considering it due to the long life and low heat of the lights.
 
LunaSetti

LunaSetti

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Hey Niko. Be careful with LED's. Make sure you spend the money and buy a GOOD light with a GOOD warranty. A lot of the time, they say they have a long life, but I've had bad experiences with them, they are so expensive that right now I don't think they are worth it. They tend to fail after about a year (just in my experience), and I haven't had good luck finding one that compares to my CFL's or 600w HPS. They are low heat etc... I found for seedlings, this bulb http://www.tmart.com/E27-7W-85265V-6500K-80-LED-Bulb-Lamp_p102691.html really gives the plants a jumpstart, they love it. BUT, it is only 7w and you would need quite a few to sustain growth, and it stays very cool. I keep my seedlings under this for a few weeks in a SOLO cup before moving them. I was thinking if I could make a 'board' full of these, it would rock, but at $14.79 a pop... I didn't want to take the chance. The LED pannels on their site are junk so I wouldn't go with any of these, I would go with a min. 90w UFO with a good warranty.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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LunaSetti said:
Hey Niko. Be careful with LED's. Make sure you spend the money and buy a GOOD light with a GOOD warranty. A lot of the time, they say they have a long life, but I've had bad experiences with them, they are so expensive that right now I don't think they are worth it. They tend to fail after about a year (just in my experience), and I haven't had good luck finding one that compares to my CFL's or 600w HPS. They are low heat etc... I found for seedlings, this bulb http://www.tmart.com/E27-7W-85265V-6500K-80-LED-Bulb-Lamp_p102691.html really gives the plants a jumpstart, they love it. BUT, it is only 7w and you would need quite a few to sustain growth, and it stays very cool. I keep my seedlings under this for a few weeks in a SOLO cup before moving them. I was thinking if I could make a 'board' full of these, it would rock, but at $14.79 a pop... I didn't want to take the chance. The LED pannels on their site are junk so I wouldn't go with any of these, I would go with a min. 90w UFO with a good warranty.
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Yeah I've been researching all morning and the general consensus is that its not worth it right now. Whats the most powerful cfl you can buy and still screw into a reg socket?
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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DSCN0512.jpgDSCN0503.jpgDSCN0500.jpgDSCN0498.jpgDSCN0502.jpgDSCN0511.jpgDSCN0507.jpgDSCN0504.jpgDSCN0499.jpgDSCN0497.jpgDSCN0496.jpgDSCN0505.jpgDSCN0501.jpgDSCN0509.jpgDSCN0508.jpgDSCN0510.jpgDSCN0506.jpgDSCN0513.jpgOkay thought I'd throw up some pics. Please ignore the pig sty and tangled cords all over my grow room. the buds are actually about a half inch longer than the lighter i used for a reference. The back right plant I have officially decided to use solely for butter and bho as there are almost no trichs and the biggest bud is only the size of alil bud on one of the other girls. Chalk that one up to whatever you chalk a runt up to, had hopes when she hit the growth spurt and got level with the canopy but I don't predict anything significant from that one.
 
BluBerry

BluBerry

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Are you avoiding MH/HPS lights only because of the heat? That can be dealt with easily. And the electricity usage is not that expensive.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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Just so everybody knows, I plan to buy actual panda film next grow as well as organize my grow room better. I really am a better grower than what my grow room looks like I just tend to be a lazy ass stoner.
 
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