Raspberry Cough DWC Grow

Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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BluBerry said:
Are you avoiding MH/HPS lights only because of the heat? That can be dealt with easily. And the electricity usage is not that expensive.
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Yeah I sold my 1000 watt because I couldnt keep the temps under control in that small closet. Electricity was never bad for it either. Hopefully I'll have my room built inside the garage soon and can at least run 400's and use the t5's to maintain a couple of mums
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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Niko Bellick said:
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Just realized that the stupid orange spots are probably calcium def. fresh nutes should help though
 
BluBerry

BluBerry

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The reason I ask is because I see like 3 or 4 different kind of lights in your setup. Meaning 3 or 4 plugs and wires versus using 1 light and 1 cord.
You are having to surround your plants with more light because the T5 and CFL don't penetrate as well as HID.
Just seems like more of a headache and more elecricity being used.
The ladies look awesome. No Doubt! But I just think that with your light setup.
A scrog would be great, since the light won't have to penetrate as much and no need to surround with other lighting.
Keep it low and wide and the light coverage is alot better. Just my 2 cents..
I'd give ya rep if I could..
 
LunaSetti

LunaSetti

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I have to agree with BluBerry on this one. I ALWAYS swore by CLF's. Then I looked at the energy consumption on all the bulbs and finally broke down and bought a 600W HPS, and I have to say the difference in yield was not even comparable. Heat was an issue for me (and it was a very scary transition), but a few inline fans corrected that.
You can buy a 200W CFL that claims to give off 10k lumens, and says it is comparable to a 600W incandescent bulb. Check out 1000bulbs.com, they have a great selection, and each unit is loaded with info on color spectrums, lumen output, etc.
It isn't any of my business, but what kind of budget are you working with? You have nothing to be ashamed of btw, your grow looks great! We all have different setups and try to things to see what works for us and our strains, so if the CFL's are workin for you stick with them! BUT if you only want to have to run ONE bulb, ONE cord, etc, go with an HPS. That was the issue for me, I had cords everywhere, socket spliters, etc, it just got out of control. It's almost addicting, how much more light can i add? Once you go HPS, you know you've found what you are looking for LOL. I can't stay in the room where my HPS is without sunglasses on! Its a CRAZY difference!
 
BluBerry

BluBerry

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Niko Bellick said:
Yeah I sold my 1000 watt because I couldnt keep the temps under control in that small closet. Electricity was never bad for it either. Hopefully I'll have my room built inside the garage soon and can at least run 400's and use the t5's to maintain a couple of mums
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I think 600 w is the way to go. I'm using 400 w and doing fine but 600 would be better.
1000 w you have more issues than it's worth
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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BluBerry said:
The reason I ask is because I see like 3 or 4 different kind of lights in your setup. Meaning 3 or 4 plugs and wires versus using 1 light and 1 cord.
You are having to surround your plants with more light because the T5 and CFL don't penetrate as well as HID.
Just seems like more of a headache and more elecricity being used.
The ladies look awesome. No Doubt! But I just think that with your light setup.
A scrog would be great, since the light won't have to penetrate as much and no need to surround with other lighting.
Keep it low and wide and the light coverage is alot better. Just my 2 cents..
I'd give ya rep if I could..
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Dude trust me I'm kicking myself for not buying a trellace and going scrog. Next grow will either be perpetual sog or scrog with a minimal of 400 watts hid
 
BluBerry

BluBerry

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LunaSetti said:
I have to agree with BluBerry on this one. I ALWAYS swore by CLF's. Then I looked at the energy consumption on all the bulbs and finally broke down and bought a 600W HPS, and I have to say the difference in yield was not even comparable. Heat was an issue for me (and it was a very scary transition), but a few inline fans corrected that.
You can buy a 200W CFL that claims to give off 10k lumens, and says it is comparable to a 600W incandescent bulb. Check out 1000bulbs.com, they have a great selection, and each unit is loaded with info on color spectrums, lumen output, etc.
It isn't any of my business, but what kind of budget are you working with? You have nothing to be ashamed of btw, your grow looks great! We all have different setups and try to things to see what works for us and our strains, so if the CFL's are workin for you stick with them! BUT if you only want to have to run ONE bulb, ONE cord, etc, go with an HPS. That was the issue for me, I had cords everywhere, socket spliters, etc, it just got out of control. It's almost addicting, how much more light can i add? Once you go HPS, you know you've found what you are looking for LOL. I can't stay in the room where my HPS is without sunglasses on! Its a CRAZY difference!
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More plugs and cords is more of a fire hazard to me. That HPS is bright. Lol!
I had heat issues at first but then I bought a 435 CFM inline exhaust fan for bout $100 and have no issues ever since
I have a fan in the cab that circulates the air and my filter and exhaust fan keep it cool and smelling fresh.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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LunaSetti said:
I have to agree with BluBerry on this one. I ALWAYS swore by CLF's. Then I looked at the energy consumption on all the bulbs and finally broke down and bought a 600W HPS, and I have to say the difference in yield was not even comparable. Heat was an issue for me (and it was a very scary transition), but a few inline fans corrected that.
You can buy a 200W CFL that claims to give off 10k lumens, and says it is comparable to a 600W incandescent bulb. Check out 1000bulbs.com, they have a great selection, and each unit is loaded with info on color spectrums, lumen output, etc.
It isn't any of my business, but what kind of budget are you working with? You have nothing to be ashamed of btw, your grow looks great! We all have different setups and try to things to see what works for us and our strains, so if the CFL's are workin for you stick with them! BUT if you only want to have to run ONE bulb, ONE cord, etc, go with an HPS. That was the issue for me, I had cords everywhere, socket spliters, etc, it just got out of control. It's almost addicting, how much more light can i add? Once you go HPS, you know you've found what you are looking for LOL. I can't stay in the room where my HPS is without sunglasses on! Its a CRAZY difference!
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Budget is not too much of an issue as I seem to be falling into money lately the problem is mainly the fiance. Right now I've started saving up to build a room within our garage with flood and drain tables proper ventilation a trimeter and either 400 or 600 watt HID. Trust me Ive now grown with everything but led's and I much prefer the HID. My sole mistake was buying a 1000 watter when I was a nube shoulda bought a 400 switchable and could be running it in my downsized closet space instead of Cfl and T5. I do like the T5 and will keep them but probably just to maintain a mother or clones.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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BluBerry said:
More plugs and cords is more of a fire hazard to me. That HPS is bright. Lol!
I had heat issues at first but then I bought a 435 CFM inline exhaust fan for bout $100 and have no issues ever since
I have a fan in the cab that circulates the air and my filter and exhaust fan keep it cool and smelling fresh.
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Yeah I'm working on hanging the power strip to the wall in case of water leakage. Yeah no shit I stared at my 1000 watt once and went blind for a couple minutes. I'm actually talking to a guy on Craigs list right now about buying his carbon scrubber and two inline fans for my next grow.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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BluBerry said:
I think 600 w is the way to go. I'm using 400 w and doing fine but 600 would be better.
1000 w you have more issues than it's worth
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Now with the 600 do they make a switchable ballast? or is it just hps or mh? If I went 0 veg S.O.G I could just buy a couple of 600 watt hps to hang over the flood tables. Good call bluberry
 
BluBerry

BluBerry

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WARNING: Be very fucking careful on Craigslist. There are alot of scams and setups. I deal alot with them for other things besides this issue.
They are undercover cops selling lights and grow kits. You meet them to purchase the stuff.
They already know you are growing since you are interested in that stuff.
They will tag ya. Be careful with that situation.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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BluBerry said:
WARNING: Be very fucking careful on Craigslist. There are alot of scams and setups. I deal alot with them for other things besides this issue.
They are undercover cops selling lights and grow kits. You meet them to purchase the stuff.
They already know you are growing since you are interested in that stuff.
They will tag ya. Be careful with that situation.
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Yeah I've sold stuff on Craigslist but never bought anything from them as Im paranoid about the popo. Id prbly be better off just saving the money and buying everything under warranty from my local hydro shop. I did order some nutes off ebay but had those sent to austin and theyll be remailed to me here. I just have to figure a safer way to have seeds sent to me
 
BluBerry

BluBerry

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google Sannies Seeds. I got my seeds from him. Very discreet. I sent $50 cash in an envelope to him and they sent me the beans in discreet packaging.
I put a different name on there like John Smith or Pancho Sanchez or something. Lol
Reasonably priced as well. And every review I read was positive.
But yes I would either be very careful buying this stuff from CL.
Check on eBay. Lot cheaper than Hydro stores and stuff usually.
Got my aircooled light for $119 and exhaust fan for bout $89.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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BluBerry said:
google Sannies Seeds. I got my seeds from him. Very discreet. I sent $50 cash in an envelope to him and they sent me the beans in discreet packaging.
I put a different name on there like John Smith or Pancho Sanchez or something. Lol
Reasonably priced as well. And every review I read was positive.
But yes I would either be very careful buying this stuff from CL.
Check on eBay. Lot cheaper than Hydro stores and stuff usually.
Got my aircooled light for $119 and exhaust fan for bout $89.
I'm an opinionated person. So don't get offended by anything I say. I just try to help ya out, not telling you how to grow or anything.
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Dude, chill. I welcome the advice. If it wasn't for people telling me things I'd still be putting hot water bottles in my res trying to keep the temps in the 80's (dark days for my earlier plants)
 
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DocGreenThumb

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Yeah CL is scarry I saw a flood table 2x4 trays and a bunch of GH nutes(large containers) for $200 super cheap so somethings up.

You can grow good bud with flouros bro this is my first time growing with MH & HPS.

I will say the density/hardness of the buds is better with the HPS. My energy bill has increased way more too though lol.

If I did it over again. I would of went with a Lumatek Dimmable ballast(360,400,600watt) and bought a 400watt and 600 watt HPS bulb and used the 400 for the first 4-5 weeks of flower and then 600 for the rest. Would be a good energy saver.
 
LunaSetti

LunaSetti

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I just bought this system. I know a lot of people don't like digi's right now, but I do. I like that the ballast is only warm and it is fully dimmable, so I can turn it down when I need to. It was super affordable and the people at Flora are easy/good to work with.
http://florahydroponics.com/product.aspx?id=3021

I did have an off-brand from Amazon, and went through 2 of them in one month. The ballast kept frying itself. I literally had to use potholders to move it, I gotta tell ya scared the shit out of me, I was like, I'm gonnna come home one day and my house won't be there lol. This ballast has a 3 year warranty and Flora stands by their stuff, so for 135.00 for 400w, I think it is pretty affordable. I bought the 600w system for 175.00. The digital ballast runs BOTH HPS and MH, so it is a good deal, but be sure you buy a bulb that is set up for a digital ballast cuz they run at a bit higher frequency than the mags. I have used cool tubes and such in the past but never had good luck keeping them cool even with expensive fans, I like an open system much better, the heat disperses more evenly.

I agree with you on the t5's also... Lemme tell ya that's the only thing i use to maintain moms and veg., I won't ever give up my t5's, for back up etc., I have 2 4 tube systems.
 
Niko Bellick

Niko Bellick

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LunaSetti said:
I just bought this system. I know a lot of people don't like digi's right now, but I do. I like that the ballast is only warm and it is fully dimmable, so I can turn it down when I need to. It was super affordable and the people at Flora are easy/good to work with.
http://florahydroponics.com/product.aspx?id=3021

I did have an off-brand from Amazon, and went through 2 of them in one month. The ballast kept frying itself. I literally had to use potholders to move it, I gotta tell ya scared the shit out of me, I was like, I'm gonnna come home one day and my house won't be there lol. This ballast has a 3 year warranty and Flora stands by their stuff, so for 135.00 for 400w, I think it is pretty affordable. I bought the 600w system for 175.00. The digital ballast runs BOTH HPS and MH, so it is a good deal, but be sure you buy a bulb that is set up for a digital ballast cuz they run at a bit higher frequency than the mags. I have used cool tubes and such in the past but never had good luck keeping them cool even with expensive fans, I like an open system much better, the heat disperses more evenly.

I agree with you on the t5's also... Lemme tell ya that's the only thing i use to maintain moms and veg., I won't ever give up my t5's, for back up etc., I have 2 4 tube systems.
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Perfect, page bookmarked for when I start ordering new equipment
 
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