Re-Budding?

Styles T

Styles T

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I know that this question is widely asked but I must ask again about how some of you re-bud after harvesting your plant(s)? 4rm experience after picking a few buds(bottom) for testing purposes, I notice that bud grows back, not in the same exact spot but very close to where it was picked. So it get's me to thinking, what if I just pick off all my bud when ready to harvest oppose to cutting down the main stem. Has anyone ever done this and if so, how do you go about it? I'm thinking to place picked buds in a shoe box or some sort for drying and then leaving my plant in the 12/12 cycle as it was so that It can re-bud. Please! if anyone has done and or does this, do let me know! Late!
 
TalonToker

TalonToker

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Are you sure your not really thinking of re-vegging as opposed to re-budding? If you harvest when your buds are ripe and leave it in 12/12 then sure more buds will grow, but your baby will also start growing balls (hermie). That process is not worth it. I have tried it.

If your talking about re-vegging, that works great and I can tell you how I do it. When you harvest your buds make sure to leave some (very) small buds on the bottom of the plant. Cut the rest of the plant normally. If the buds on the bottom have any size then you can even go so far as to cut those down to little stubs. Just make sure to leave a portion of those bud(s). Then you give it one strong dose of a fert high in N. I use Alaska fish emulsion for this step which has an n-p-k of 5-1-1 and I apply it at 100% strength. Then put the plant back in a veg light cycle (16+ hours of light). I switch mine back to 24 hours of light/day. After that, just give it water until she begins to show new veg growth. The old grow shoots will usually stop growing, but new veg growth will emerge from the buds you left. Often you will see multiple grow shoots coming from each of those buds, making for an incredibly bushy plant. Then you just grow it normally.

If your first harvest was a week or two early then your plant could revert back to veg in as little as 3 days. If it was ripe when you tried this then new veg growth could take as long as 3 weeks.
 
Styles T

Styles T

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Thanks for the replies fellas and good knowledge Talon! I never heard of that Alaska fish emulsion, I must try! either that 0r my very own Urine which would be high in 'N'(nitrogen) lol And yes I was speaking of re-budding but since you spoke on how it can hermie I might have to re-think that & just try to re-veg. For 'imchucky666', the reason why I wanna re-bud/re-veg is so that I can keep this strain going as I don't have any clones and 0r seeds to grow this particular strain again in the meantime. 0nce again, good knowledge!
 
Styles T

Styles T

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TalonToker said:
Then put the plant back in a veg light cycle (16+ hours of light). I switch mine back to 24 hours of light/day. After that, just give it water until she begins to show new veg growth. The old grow shoots will usually stop growing, but new veg growth will emerge from the buds you left. Often you will see multiple grow shoots coming from each of those buds, making for an incredibly bushy plant. Then you just grow it normally.

If your first harvest was a week or two early then your plant could revert back to veg in as little as 3 days. If it was ripe when you tried this then new veg growth could take as long as 3 weeks.
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So your saying even if the main stem and 0r individual stems are sliced/cut in half, it will still re-veg? I had co-wrkers who grew 0nce, telling me that it works but hard for me to believe. I smk'd my bottom buds already for testing purposes and just because I needed my meds lol - I have a couple very small ones I dnd't touch so, hopefully that works. Get@me!
 
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gagekko

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Styles T said:
So your saying even if the main stem and 0r individual stems are sliced/cut in half, it will still re-veg? I had co-wrkers who grew 0nce, telling me that it works but hard for me to believe. I smk'd my bottom buds already for testing purposes and just because I needed my meds lol - I have a couple very small ones I dnd't touch so, hopefully that works. Get@me!
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I usually cut the whole plant down to 1/3 it's former size... It's hard, but I leave whatever flowers that are there for the reveg - I had about 1.5 ounces on about 5 plants from a recent grow left on for the sole purpose of reflowing. I'll cut the main stem and use a piece of rolled paper towel or toilet paper to plug the stem... I was 5 for 5 on the last reveg and they looking fairly nice. I'll put them back into flower in about 2 weeks :)
 
TalonToker

TalonToker

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Yes Styles, gagekko is right on the money. I forgot to mention, you should leave a few leaves, too. They might well die off, but will keep the plant going until it reverts back to veg.

The buds you leave don't have to be big. The smallest will do. They don't have to be on the bottom either. I only said the bottom because your new growth will be from these spots. If you leave buds that are higher up then you'll have a lot of stem on the bottom. You might eventually get some growth down there, but it will be similar to the little bit of stubble that a plant will otherwise grow late in life and won't amount to much. However, that stuble could be used to reveg yet again after your second harvest. I have a critical mass that I've harvested 6 times and am currently trying to revert it back to veg yet again. I think I might lose her this time, though.

Some people like to trim the roots when they attempt a reveg, but I've never done that so I can't help other than mentioning it.

gagekko said:
I'll use a piece of rolled paper towel or toilet paper to plug the stem...
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Never done that and I'm not sure I understand it. Is that to help the wound heal? Just to be clear, I'm not saying your wrong, just curious.
 
Styles T

Styles T

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gagekko said:
I usually cut the whole plant down to 1/3 it's former size... It's hard, but I leave whatever flowers that are there for the reveg - I had about 1.5 ounces on about 5 plants from a recent grow left on for the sole purpose of reflowing. I'll cut the main stem and use a piece of rolled paper towel or toilet paper to plug the stem... I was 5 for 5 on the last reveg and they looking fairly nice. I'll put them back into flower in about 2 weeks :)
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I'm with Talon cuz I'm also curious about covering the main stem whole. Very interesting! s0 did you yield 1.5 0unces off each plant 0r all 2gether? And what kind of strain is that in you Avatar pic? I like the look of that, it reminds me of the blackberry. Thanks for the knowledge 0nce again, you and Talon have been real helpful
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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hey styles, if you want to save this strain, why not just take clones off of her instead of trying the reveg thing?

you can always clone late in flowering, despite people saying that you can't.. ime, the clones just take a but longer to root, depending on how late in flowering you took the clones of course..

i'm growing blue dream, the clone only, atm, and just took some clones off of it and she's a good 7 or so weeks into flower..
 
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bigsteve

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Re-budding = re-vegging = re-grow. Most of us use the term re-grow. That refers to a plant that gets harvested and is then
re-grown for a second harvest.

Some varieties are easier to re-grow successfully. Indicas generally are easier just as they are easier to clone. I also leave the
main stem about 1/3 it's pre-harvest height. Reason to cut it down so far is that she will really grow out during the re-veg stage
and you don't want it much taller than the first harvest. I leave all the greenery around the base of the plant during the first harvest.
My general rule is to leave just about enough greenery to fill a double-handful. Don't leave buds that have colored pistils. Those guys are
ripe to go and will just rot off during the re-grow. Re-veg at 18/6 or 20/0 for 3-4 weeks. BONUS I -- Re-grown plants take LESS time to
re-veg second time. After re-vegging flower as usual at 12/12. BONUS II -- Re-grown plants take LESS time to re-flower second time.

Note - You will noice that the re-grown plant has many more but smaller nugs on the re-grow. Do not be discouraged as....
BONUS III -- Re-grown plants typically (with my indicas at least) will yield 150-200% of the original grow.

Now you see why those of us who like to re-grow are so enthusiastic about the process. Re-grows are faster and yield more.
Plus you know exactly what you are getting. Buzinga!

Good luck, PM me if you have any specific problems wqith re-growing (in dirt).
BigSteve.
 
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bigsteve

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P.S. Do a search using "re-grow success" to find my old post on re-growing. Helpful as I included before and
after pix of what the plant looked like right before and right after getting harvested for a re-grow. A lot of people
thought it was helpful.

BigSteve.
 
Styles T

Styles T

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TalonToker said:
Yes Styles, gagekko is right on the money. I forgot to mention, you should leave a few leaves, too. They might well die off, but will keep the plant going until it reverts back to veg.

The buds you leave don't have to be big. The smallest will do. They don't have to be on the bottom either. I only said the bottom because your new growth will be from these spots. If you leave buds that are higher up then you'll have a lot of stem on the bottom. You might eventually get some growth down there, but it will be similar to the little bit of stubble that a plant will otherwise grow late in life and won't amount to much. However, that stuble could be used to reveg yet again after your second harvest. I have a critical mass that I've harvested 6 times and am currently trying to revert it back to veg yet again. I think I might lose her this time, though.

Some people like to trim the roots when they attempt a reveg, but I've never done that so I can't help other than mentioning it.
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So when the plant re-veg's does the stem stay short? And I'm assuming the plant will start to grow more wide, correct!
 
Styles T

Styles T

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racerboy71 said:
hey styles, if you want to save this strain, why not just take clones off of her instead of trying the reveg thing?

you can always clone late in flowering, despite people saying that you can't.. ime, the clones just take a but longer to root, depending on how late in flowering you took the clones of course..

i'm growing blue dream, the clone only, atm, and just took some clones off of it and she's a good 7 or so weeks into flower..
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Now I'm upset because I did read that somewhere down my journey about being able to clone in flower mode but never went back to research further. I believe it's too late now as I am almost finished with this grow-Starting it's 7th week come time Sunday. Plus I don't have no cloning solution 0r dome@the moment. Glad you brought this back to my attention but! I'll be scared to clip off a piece of my plant(clone)knowing that my plant will reduce it's yield because of it. Maybe if I actually went through it and know how the clone grows off of flower mode. That's weird to me as of right now and I guess it's just something else I have to try in the near future as I kind of like this idea. I really have to look into this soon! Thanx Mr. Ganja!
 
sgadan

sgadan

Active Member
Styles T said:
I'm with Talon cuz I'm also curious about covering the main stem whole. Very interesting! s0 did you yield 1.5 0unces off each plant 0r all 2gether? And what kind of strain is that in you Avatar pic? I like the look of that, it reminds me of the blackberry. Thanks for the knowledge 0nce again, you and Talon have been real helpful
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think he ment he left 1.5oz on all 5 plants for re-veg.
 
Nightmaresgrowing

Nightmaresgrowing

New Member
bigsteve said:
Re-budding = re-vegging = re-grow. Most of us use the term re-grow. That refers to a plant that gets harvested and is then
re-grown for a second harvest.

Some varieties are easier to re-grow successfully. Indicas generally are easier just as they are easier to clone. I also leave the
main stem about 1/3 it's pre-harvest height. Reason to cut it down so far is that she will really grow out during the re-veg stage
and you don't want it much taller than the first harvest. I leave all the greenery around the base of the plant during the first harvest.
My general rule is to leave just about enough greenery to fill a double-handful. Don't leave buds that have colored pistils. Those guys are
ripe to go and will just rot off during the re-grow. Re-veg at 18/6 or 20/0 for 3-4 weeks. BONUS I -- Re-grown plants take LESS time to
re-veg second time. After re-vegging flower as usual at 12/12. BONUS II -- Re-grown plants take LESS time to re-flower second time.

Note - You will noice that the re-grown plant has many more but smaller nugs on the re-grow. Do not be discouraged as....
BONUS III -- Re-grown plants typically (with my indicas at least) will yield 150-200% of the original grow.

Now you see why those of us who like to re-grow are so enthusiastic about the process. Re-grows are faster and yield more.
Plus you know exactly what you are getting. Buzinga!

Good luck, PM me if you have any specific problems wqith re-growing (in dirt).
BigSteve.
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do you by any chance have a video explaining the harvesting technique and process in more depth? I learn visually... Haha
 
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gagekko

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TalonToker said:
Never done that and I'm not sure I understand it. Is that to help the wound heal? Just to be clear, I'm not saying your wrong, just curious.
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Can't say y I do it... I just hate seeing the big gaping hole of the main stem - a couple of times, I put a bandaid on the stem, haha...
 
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