Recycled Organic Living Soil (ROLS) and No Till Thread

GreenestBasterd

GreenestBasterd

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First run off the bottles!!! All coots mix in 7gal and a few 10gal smartpots.
Weekly top dress, teas and plenty of barley!!!

Shouts to “sega megadrive” for convincing me to switch.
 

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Gimiik

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Hey guys this thread is wayyy to long for me to begin to dive into and majority of the pictures in the early pages don't load for me.

Can anyone point me towards more literature / videos / journals / podcasts etc about No till, LOS?
 
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Northwood

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Yikes, I'm not to too familiar with ROLS except from Youtube video suggestions. Isn't that a method only suitable for getting your plants through one cycle?
 
johny22

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Hi guys this is my first attempt at no till I have a container that is 220L (58 gal) container Dimensions are: 65cm x 52cm x 88cm would this be alright? I was just wondering if it's better to have a shallow more wider container or shorter length more deeper container
 
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Northwood

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johny22 said:
I was just wondering if it's better to have a shallow more wider container or shorter length more deeper container
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If this is for indoor no-till, you'll want more surface area than depth. I wouldn't go much more than 50 cm deep with the maximum surface area that allows it to fit in the tent but with enough room to see and extract excess runoff should that occur. Cannabis roots can easily go deep, but in a pot you risk more drainage and aerobic issues the deeper your pot is. Plus the surface is where the exchange of fresh air and CO2 from the soil bacteria respiration happens. The surface is also where the decomposition of your mulches and other surface amendments occur, and it's more difficult keep that cycling going full-throttle if you just don't have the room. Also, vertical height is a major constraint for those of us who grow indoors in tents. If you have red wriggler worms in your pot, they prefer shallower depths and lurk just under or right in your humus layer. More surface area means more area for cover crops too if you choose that route.

If this isn't no-till and you're growing outdoors, it will still grow okay and extra depth may help in retaining moisture during those dry hot summer days as long as your pot and soil drains well.
 
johny22

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Northwood said:
If this is for indoor no-till, you'll want more surface area than depth. I wouldn't go much more than 50 cm deep with the maximum surface area that allows it to fit in the tent but with enough room to see and extract excess runoff should that occur. Cannabis roots can easily go deep, but in a pot you risk more drainage and aerobic issues the deeper your pot is. Plus the surface is where the exchange of fresh air and CO2 from the soil bacteria respiration happens. The surface is also where the decomposition of your mulches and other surface amendments occur, and it's more difficult keep that cycling going full-throttle if you just don't have the room. Also, vertical height is a major constraint for those of us who grow indoors in tents. If you have red wriggler worms in your pot, they prefer shallower depths and lurk just under or right in your humus layer. More surface area means more area for cover crops too if you choose that route.

If this isn't no-till and you're growing outdoors, it will still grow okay and extra depth may help in retaining moisture during those dry hot summer days as long as your pot and soil drains well.
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Thanks for the reply Northwood appreciate ya!
 
bodhipop

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GreenestBasterd said:
First run off the bottles!!! All coots mix in 7gal and a few 10gal smartpots.
Weekly top dress, teas and plenty of barley!!!

Shouts to “sega megadrive” for convincing me to switch.
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Looks great! It will smoke even better..
What's your weekly top dress looking like?
 
GreenestBasterd

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bodhipop said:
Looks great! It will smoke even better..
What's your weekly top dress looking like?
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I was just adding a biggish pinch of Neem kelp and gypsum weekly, and roughly a handful of smashed malted Barley. Then a small hand full of guano around week 1 or 2 of flower. The rest was just straight water and teas.
Hope that helps mate. I’m by no means an expert just doing what I do to the outdoor girls
 
BLACKMESSIAH7

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Peace all. Been following this thread for a long while and just started the ROLS style. Have always used organics so not a new thing but I have never done this before. Question.. I have sprouts coming up in my pots. Does this mean that the soil didn't cook long enuff? I had it going for roughly 3-4 weeks. Also what is it? I did add alfalpha meal, could it be alfalpha sprouts and if so should I just let them grow?? Thank U for the responses. Peace20200817_195616.jpg
 
strengthngrowth

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hello forum, hello thread!!! ive been wanting to get into no till organics for at least 6 years now... but im still mixing nutes with coco dtw... i run photos, but wanted to get some autos going in a no till setup, in veg room.... now im stuck with a few questions, 1 is could i fit 4 pots in a 3x3 space, for autos??? or should i do a bed??? autos would be on a perpetual/staggered schedule.... if pots whats a good size, i keep reading 15gallons for no till, seems a bit much for an auto, but i do grow in 1-2 gallon pots with coco... also i am sourcing ingredients, wanting to cut cost, as this would be a trial... is all compost good, should i look for certain ingredients, what about this stuff i found locally https://www.missouriorganic.com/compost ?any of these good??? awesome thread btw, lots of good info... if i have a good trial period, i will start looking into worm bins, and composting bins, but for now i just wanna get some organics going to compare with what i already trust, and know... thanks
 
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BLACKMESSIAH7 said:
Peace all. Been following this thread for a long while and just started the ROLS style. Have always used organics so not a new thing but I have never done this before. Question.. I have sprouts coming up in my pots. Does this mean that the soil didn't cook long enuff? I had it going for roughly 3-4 weeks. Also what is it? I did add alfalpha meal, could it be alfalpha sprouts and if so should I just let them grow?? Thank U for the responses. PeaceView attachment 4656844
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Peace. I think it may be tomato plants from the seeds that were in the homemade compost. I have had this happen last grow and I tried to keep the plant alive. It was a struggle cuz of my work schedule at the time. I dont know if it will be a problem now but would it be bad if I allow it to grow in the same pot?? (5 gal fabric) Thank U for responses. Peace
 
Diesel0889

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BLACKMESSIAH7 said:
Peace. I think it may be tomato plants from the seeds that were in the homemade compost. I have had this happen last grow and I tried to keep the plant alive. It was a struggle cuz of my work schedule at the time. I dont know if it will be a problem now but would it be bad if I allow it to grow in the same pot?? (5 gal fabric) Thank U for responses. Peace
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The more plants in my bed the better. Keep it tame is all. Tomato is not what I'd use but get some 12 seed cover crop at BAS and just get it going in your pot or bed. You want a mulch layer. I prefer a mix of living and dead. Barley straw with a 12 seed blend or just some white Dutch clover etc. Toss in a handful of worms that will turn your top dress of cannabis leaves or ammendments into a nice humus layer that will only get better with time as long as you maintain it. Anything that comes off the plant when you lollipop or strip a few leaves should go right back to the pot! I wish you luck!

Happy growing!
 
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