Religion Has Done More Bad Than Good

sandmonkey said:

It's you who doesn't "get it". How do you explain all the missing books in your Bible then???

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the "get it" part is about the bible

If you compare the King James and New King James Versions with the newer translations (e.g. the New International Version, New American Standard, New Living Translation, etc.) - you will notice that several verses are entirely missing from the newer translations. Examples are John 5:4, Acts 8:37, and 1 John 5:7. Mark 16:9-20 is another example, although it is always placed in the text or in footnotes. Why do these translations not have these verses? Are the newer translations taking verses out of the Bible?

The answer is that the translators did not believe these verses should have been in the Bible to begin with. Since the KJV was translated in A.D. 1611, many Biblical manuscripts have been discovered that are older and more accurate than the manuscripts the KJV was based on. When Bible scholars researched through these manuscripts, they discovered some differences. It seems that over the course of 1500 years, some words, phrases, and even sentences were added to the Bible (either intentionally or accidentally). The verses mentioned above are simply not found in the oldest and most reliable manuscripts. So, the newer translations remove these verses or place them in footnotes or in the margin because they do not truly belong in the Bible.

It is important to remember, however, that the verses in question are of minor significance. None of them change in any way the crucial themes of the Bible, nor do they have any impact on the Bible’s doctrines—Jesus’ death, burial and resurrection, Christ as the only the way of salvation, heaven and hell, sin and redemption, and the nature and character of God. These are preserved intact through the work of the Holy Spirit, who safeguards the Word of God for all generations.

Never has so much been based on so little.

you are important

Fish dude come on... the reason why Carbon 14 dating isnt used on objects older that 60,000 years old because the Element known as Carbon, exists in all living things... Now Carbon 14 is the elemnt in us right now... the half life (please look up the word half life) of Carbon 14 is something like 5700 years... so after that half of the isotope known as carbon 14 is now Carbon 13 is in its place... and this continues to happen, and after a certain amount of time there is nothign left to measure... but u just fucked yourself becuase all that link says... Wait here is the link u provided me to look at...
This next part is a quote from the site listed below that fish06 provided when he said carbon dating is a friend to christianity... lol here goes...
http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/nab/does-c14-disprove-the-bible



"When a scientist’s interpretation of data does not match the clear meaning of the text in the Bible, we should never reinterpret the Bible. God knows just what He meant to say, and His understanding of science is infallible, whereas ours is fallible. So we should never think it necessary to modify His Word. Genesis 1 defines the days of creation to be literal days (a number with the word “day” always means a normal day in the Old Testament, and the phrase “evening and morning” further defines the days as literal days). Since the Bible is the inspired Word of God, we should examine the validity of the standard interpretation of 14C dating by asking several questions:

1. Is the explanation of the data derived from empirical, observational science, or an interpretation of past events (historical science)?
2. Are there any assumptions involved in the dating method?
3. Are the dates provided by 14C dating consistent with what we observe?
4. Do all scientists accept the 14C dating method as reliable and accurate?

Answer to # 4 i will let u do the reaserch on the others... as a matter of fact carbon 14 dating is accepted by the scientific community just as much as they accept gravity... we do believe in gravity right?

I love how that last part states that even if carbon dating says the earth is over 6000 years old... u cant question in cuz "God knew what he meant"... so that brings us back to "Have faith" dont believe fact! its unreal how naive people are...

and as far as That post a few up when u say that people just left things out cuz they didnt think it was correct or whatever... who are they to decide i thought it was the word of god and he knew what he meant! why would it ever need to be changed?

phatlip said:

I love how that last part states that even if carbon dating says the earth is over 6000 years old... u cant question in cuz "God knew what he meant"... so that brings us back to "Have faith" dont believe fact!

and as far as That post a few up when u say that people just left things out cuz they didnt think it was correct or whatever... who are they to decide i thought it was the word of god and he knew what he meant! why would it ever need to be changed?

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sorry i will look again later but i dont see where it says if carbon dating says the earth is over 6000 years old... u cant question in cuz ...

you all messing with my head or something? I know you understand what i am saying. I can sit down right now and write the bible changing words around as i see fit i can even get it published. That does not mean the original text has been changed..THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE BOOK I WROTE IS RIGHT Please tell me you understand that..

I guess it is a small world after all.

As soon as the Church decreed that the Bible was the "Absolute word of G*D" , the religion was corrupted and finished.

CrackerJax said:

As soon as the Church decreed that the Bible was the "Absolute word of G*D" , the religion was corrupted and finished.

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If there was a god do you think he would give us something to go by something like a book.. hmm what would you do if you were god?

First of all, why would a G*D need to give us a book....... Something to go by?

I think science is the book.... something to go by. Something that can be examined, tested, verified. Something real. No need to worship anything, certainly not science.

Hold that head up, meet the future with eyes OPEN, even if it's good news or bad.

CrackerJax said:

First of all, why would a G*D need to give us a book....... Something to go by?

I think science is the book.... something to go by. Something that can be examined, tested, verified. Something real. No need to worship anything, certainly not science.

Hold that head up, meet the future with eyes OPEN, even if it's good news or bad.

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maybe because G*D (why dont u put the O) put us here and limited our understanding of things, it would of been pretty nice to give us something to go by.

the bible is a book that can be examined, tested, verified you just havent gaven it a honest look. oneday find any bible phrophecy and investigate find out what people from both sides say about it

Like I said.... we can go by science. It has arrived, have no fears or superstitions. cast off the myth and be amazed!!

Mainstream religion came from a pre-science era. It's okay to let go.

CrackerJax said:

cast off the myth and be amazed!!

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hi

fish do you believe that evolution is not true?

dpjones said:

fish do you believe that evolution is not true?

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not that we come from slime pool

fish601 said:

sorry i will look again later but i dont see where it says if carbon dating says the earth is over 6000 years old... u cant question in cuz ...

you all messing with my head or something? I know you understand what i am saying. I can sit down right now and write the bible changing words around as i see fit i can even get it published. That does not mean the original text has been changed..THAT DOES NOT MEAN THE BOOK I WROTE IS RIGHT Please tell me you understand that..

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I do understand but like u said god knew what he meant when he wrote it... so why is it even an option to change it... if even one word is changed its not "gods word" right? cuz if u say no then u are contradicting urself big time... yet if u agree then u are saying that u dont know if u are actually reading gods words becuase u dont know how many times its really been changed... u have only been here for a shotr time and no absolute proof when those were written or "altered"... Now the most important part is the bible was not written in english or anyhting close to it... now even today when u translate something from one language to another... the meaning changes sometimes... now it may not be much of a difference from one translation to the next but over many translations the meaning could be chnged drastically... Am i wrong on that? please answer these questions specifically!!

phatlip said:

I do understand but like u said god knew what he meant when he wrote it... so why is it even an option to change it... if even one word is changed its not "gods word" right? cuz if u say no then u are contradicting urself big time... yet if u agree then u are saying that u dont know if u are actually reading gods words becuase u dont know how many times its really been changed... u have only been here for a shotr time and no absolute proof when those were written or "altered"... Now the most important part is the bible was not written in english or anyhting close to it... now even today when u translate something from one language to another... the meaning changes sometimes... now it may not be much of a difference from one translation to the next but over many translations the meaning could be chnged drastically... Am i wrong on that? please answer these questions specifically!!

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FORGET IT

CrackerJax said:

Like I said.... we can go by science. It has arrived, have no fears or superstitions. cast off the myth and be amazed!!

Mainstream religion came from a pre-science era. It's okay to let go.

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Fantastic!! its true! today we have science to explain much of todays phenomena. so we dont have to explain things with supernatural events! The problem is that religious folks dont want to do research and learn about science becuase they are afraid of what it will tell them... they are told in church not to pay attention to science because it will 100% contradict the whole "God" theory... and dont get me wrong when the bible is used for its lessons and not taken literally it has great lessons to help people better their own lives and those around them... Come on did a senior citizen really build a huge boat and collect two of every animal... and if he had the help of god why didnt god help a senior citizen build a boat to save all the people in Hurrican Catrina... I dont understand why that back in the biblical days god interviened with human life all the time... yet now we never see jack shit, Why? cause we have science to explain natural phenomena! Do real research from renowned scientists that arent theologists and all that... real Phd scientists not biased by religion... It will all make sense... u owe yourself the favor to at least see what its about... right?

fish601 said:

FORGET IT

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were u gonna answer my questions?

fish601 said:

FORGET IT

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LOL What good have atheists done? I Perhaps I can be persuaded to their cause.

phatlip said:

were u gonna answer my questions?

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lets talk about something different please