Removing odor setup HELP 42 plants

Renfro said:

We shall see. First lets get past the genetics selection. First run is usually a shit show with pollen chucking bananas and stuff, you will have to cull the crap and keep the winners to clone for future runs. So don't expect much from the first run.


Shotgunning a lot of plants is actually recommended IMO. Don't grow them big, cut clones from each one to root and keep in veg (track who is who carefully) so you can cull the ones that match with pollen producers in flower. Once you have selected plants that don't pop bananas and that produce quality nug you can clone those, veg the clones and flower them.

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Fair enough. As a small personal grower the last thing that comes to mind is growing small plants and 42 good size plants would over run that space. On top of that he would need a second room or have to split this one room for a veg area. I suppose I just have no experience with such things, for me it's more about quality over quantity. I will bow to your experience on this one as it's more space than I have ever dealt with.

Doug Dawson said:

Fair enough. As a small personal grower the last thing that comes to mind is growing small plants and 42 good size plants would over run that space. On top of that he would need a second room or have to split this one room for a veg area. I suppose I just have no experience with such things, for me it's more about quality over quantity. I will bow to your experience on this one as it's more space than I have ever dealt with.

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The more seeds he starts, the better chance of finding that quality producer. More losers than winners typically, including pollen producers. If he can't select good genetics and have a veg area with mothers then he won't ever get a good solid flowering run.

Renfro said:

The more seeds he starts, the better chance of finding that quality producer. More losers than winners typically, including pollen producers. If he can't select good genetics and have a veg area with mothers then he won't ever get a good solid flowering run.

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Looks like from what he wrote he is getting 42 auto seeds from seed bank. I see many genetic issues in his future.

Doug Dawson said:

Looks like from what he wrote he is getting 42 auto seeds from seed bank. I see many genetic issues in his future.

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Auto's, it's pointless then. Never be able to select a winning mother and clone it to fill the room with good plants. It's gonna be a real shit show, in every way possible. This is what happens when people get started on their own and then come here for advice. Already having purchased all the wrong gear, setup, seeds... smh. complete shit show.

Doug Dawson said:

Do you not think trying to put 42 plants into a 10x10 space is unrealistic?

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They will be auto plants my friend, with 4 gallon pots, 12inch diameter, it fits 42 respecting the LEDs measurement

neweraboss said:

They will be auto plants my friend, with 4 gallon pots, 12inch diameter, it fits 42 respecting the LEDs measurement

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I wish you luck. I only have 1 plant currently but it takes up my whole 5x5 tent. It was supposed to be an Auto but turned out to be a photo, thanks Crap King seeds. After this plant is done I will only grow photos and will use my auto seeds for outdoors. One auto caused me a bunch of grief, I cant imagine trying to deal with 43 of them. If it is an option I would listen to Renfro and get some photo seeds. Block off a veg room and start cloning. It will take a while to get this moving but will be much better in the end. If you are only looking for 2oz per plant you could easily get double that and grow half the plants giving you room for your veg room. Imagine trying to fit 42 of these in your space, it's in a 5x5 tent and is much bigger now.

You could use the autos to "proof" the room, learn how to not kill a plant, learn that those lights aren't gonna put out much weight per watt. Maybe you get some good flower. Definitely gonna learn a lot.

Meanwhile, figure out a veg room, save up for some real good lights. Get some photo beans, quality ones and not all one strain. Then shotgun those for the next flowering run, clone them for mothers, cull the losers, keep the absolute best for mothers and you can then really start producing. You can have clones vegged out and ready for the flowering room when it's harvested and cleaned.

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Doug Dawson said:

I wish you luck. I only have 1 plant currently but it takes up my whole 5x5 tent. It was supposed to be an Auto but turned out to be a photo, thanks Crap King seeds. After this plant is done I will only grow photos and will use my auto seeds for outdoors. One auto caused me a bunch of grief, I cant imagine trying to deal with 43 of them. If it is an option I would listen to Renfro and get some photo seeds. Block off a veg room and start cloning. It will take a while to get this moving but will be much better in the end. If you are only looking for 2oz per plant you could easily get double that and grow half the plants giving you room for your veg room. Imagine trying to fit 42 of these in your space, it's in a 5x5 tent and is much bigger now.View attachment 4682631

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thats very nice!! thank you for the help, for this first time I will do autos, im buying from BSF seeds and they are high quality, im getting 4 genetics, Moby-D XXL, Sig Sour, Lebron Haze and Red Critical.
I have studied about the cloning and all but im just not at that level yet, I must start like this, understand that the area where I live people smoke garbage weed, im talking about brown dry nasty taste weed, 3rd world over here haha, so hopefully one day I get to EEUU level quality but if I can at least get as half as the quality from the north, I will be able to make a lot of money, they don't know what 1gr of EEUU quality smells or tastes like.

The idea is for the future rent a place far form the city and do all that, clones, diff rooms, thats the dream!!

These autos won't get that tall, I bought GR nutrients and cal-mag, so hopefully I can get 60-80gr per plant, that would do.
and I can go from there, invest more from the money of the harvest.

So I guess the best option is to buy grow tents and installed a carbon filter in each at the top and have another carbon filter to the main exhaust fan? what would fix the smell right? that would be 3 6inch carbon filters plus the 12inch carbon filter and the main exhaust fan that goes outside.

THAT WILL SOLVE MY PROBLEM GUYS?

Renfro said:

Auto's, it's pointless then. Never be able to select a winning mother and clone it to fill the room with good plants. It's gonna be a real shit show, in every way possible. This is what happens when people get started on their own and then come here for advice. Already having purchased all the wrong gear, setup, seeds... smh. complete shit show.

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No need to be rude my friend, im not from the EEUU, im from a 3rd world country in South America and if I can at least get half quality as you do, I will have the best weed around here so Im good with that.

Renfro said:

You could use the autos to "proof" the room, learn how to not kill a plant, learn that those lights aren't gonna put out much weight per watt. Maybe you get some good flower. Definitely gonna learn a lot.

Meanwhile, figure out a veg room, save up for some real good lights. Get some photo beans, quality ones and not all one strain. Then shotgun those for the next flowering run, clone them for mothers, cull the losers, keep the absolute best for mothers and you can then really start producing. You can have clones vegged out and ready for the flowering room when it's harvested and cleaned.

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Will do my friend! I just need to start this one and later rent another house with more rooms, then I can start playing like that, im at level 1 yet haha so autos are my best choice per now until I start making money, then I can search for better lights etc

in my country I spend like 10 month minimum salary for all that I have hahaha

The one thing I did not think about, which another user pointed out to me, is that it is illegal where you are. You are only allowed 10 grams posession and no growing. My best advice which I am sure you dont want to hear is stay legal my friend. While I understand wanting to grow, it is not worth breaking the laws for. If you think your local weed is bad now just imagine what you will be able to get in prison. Sorry to be a downer but I cannot reccomend anyone breaking the law. Sorry bud, hopefully your laws will change.

Doug Dawson said:

The one thing I did not think about, which another user pointed out to me, is that it is illegal where you are. You are only allowed 10 grams posession and no growing. My best advice which I am sure you dont want to hear is stay legal my friend. While I understand wanting to grow, it is not worth breaking the laws for. If you think your local weed is bad now just imagine what you will be able to get in prison. Sorry to be a downer but I cannot reccomend anyone breaking the law. Sorry bud, hopefully your laws will change.

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I understand and thank you! im starting a game changer here, its a virgin business, high quality marijuana >

I think im just going to rent a house in the woods for this haha

neweraboss said:

So I guess the best option is to buy grow tents and installed a carbon filter in each at the top and have another carbon filter to the main exhaust fan? what would fix the smell right? that would be 3 6inch carbon filters plus the 12inch carbon filter and the main exhaust fan that goes outside.

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That could work, provided that you get good fans and quality filters. Since you have to have 100% odor control you might want an inline ozone generator on the main exhaust fan. Remember the fan is going to be pulling air into the room and that air needs to be cool enough and not too humid. So this could become a major factor. Many growers that require superior levels of stealth end up going sealed with CO2, air conditioning and dehumidification plus scrubbers in the room.

I beg you to listen to the previous comment posted by @Doug Dawson as he nailed it. You will be fighting an uphill battle to try and grow good weed, it's a lot harder than it looks just getting a crop.

Also remember the power bill, I don't know how it works in your location but power companies in some locations can get a reward for turning in suspected grow operations to law enforcement.

Renfro said:

That could work, provided that you get good fans and quality filters. Since you have to have 100% odor control you might want an inline ozone generator on the main exhaust fan. Remember the fan is going to be pulling air into the room and that air needs to be cool enough and not too humid. So this could become a major factor. Many growers that require superior levels of stealth end up going sealed with CO2, air conditioning and dehumidification plus scrubbers in the room.

I beg you to listen to the previous comment posted by @Doug Dawson as he nailed it. You will be fighting an uphill battle to try and grow good weed, it's a lot harder than it looks just getting a crop.

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Ok thanks!! will be aware of the humidity of the air coming in, will have a dehumidifier on... like I said im from Paraguay and its a virgin business here and the cops have absolutely no idea of what is an indoor grow room.. there is no high quality buds down here
So the bill is no problem since they will never think of something like that

my wife is always complaining about two things... 1. she's always telling me to take the cotton out of my ears and stick it in my mouth cause I don't like listening anywhere near as much as I like talking... and 2. that my plants stink up the house. Well... it gave me an idea. I took some of the cotton out of my ears and stuck it in her nose. It took way less cotton then stuffing it in my mouth and there's still enough left in my ears to block out half the shit she says. But hey... it works... no more smell!

neweraboss said:

Whats up my friend, look this is my setup, I was going to connect the 12inch filter to the higher fan and just leave it like that but thinking about it hard I just can't afford for some smell to go outside, how would you do it? I was thinking to get rid of the metal hangers and buy 2-3 tents with one filter each so the air goes out in the same room again and have the 12inch filter to the higher fan so the smell that didn't get purified first, will go trough the last main filter and achieve 100% pure air? what are your thoughts? or is it too much?

I bought different lights, I got
1 Viparspectra P2000
9 Bloomspect 600w
4 Viparspectra 1000w

I do have a little walking space, very little but I would do haha

im from Paraguay, South America, we are entering spring here so it will be warm, I have an air conditioner in there too so that will solve the heat problem later on..im getting my 42 auto seeds from a bank by the end of the month and I really want to make sure everything works out, I studied a lot and the only obstacle im facing is the smell when finishing flowering.

Thanks for any help!

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Alright there.

I took some time to look into your lights and work out what area you can light up.
Im going to work in feet but roughly 3m x 3m is 9ft x 9ft, which is 81 square foot.

Your lights will grow good weed if you use enough of them, none of them will light up as much as they claim.
By my calculation you can light up 41 to 45 square feet for proper flowering.
At a stretch you could light up 3 tents equalling 4ft x 4ft or 1.2x1.2m each.
What I would probably do is get a 4x8 and a 4x4 ft tent or just light up 5x9 ft of your whole room .

Its not really necessary to use multiple filters and then filter again as long as you get a good filter.
I have never had a smell outside my house but if you really want to do it like that then by all means filter to the room then filter again on exit but you have to make sure that second fan and filter has a greater cfm than the one coming out of the tent. As in if you have a fan/filter of 500cfm and another of 300cfm then you want the one in the room to be more than 800cfm .
Personally I think you would be fine venting tents or the room straight outside without trying to filter it again.

Now if you went with two tents, 8x4 and 4x4 you could forget about growing autos and use one tent as veg and the bigger one for flower keeping a constant supply of plant flowering and plants getting ready to replace those once harvested.

If you go with autos then your spending more money on electricity, need your lights on for longer which is detrimental if your in an already hot climate, you also have less control over your outcome and what those plants produce.

If you try and light up your whole room with the lights you have you will end up with a load of crap stretched out plant that produce very little buds of low quality. Stick to the area they are capable of lighting and you will yield far more of a much higher quality.

Best of luck with the plan.

coreywebster said:

Alright there.

I took some time to look into your lights and work out what area you can light up.
Im going to work in feet but roughly 3m x 3m is 9ft x 9ft, which is 81 square foot.

Your lights will grow good weed if you use enough of them, none of them will light up as much as they claim.
By my calculation you can light up 41 to 45 square feet for proper flowering.
At a stretch you could light up 3 tents equalling 4ft x 4ft or 1.2x1.2m each.
What I would probably do is get a 4x8 and a 4x4 ft tent or just light up 5x9 ft of your whole room .

Its not really necessary to use multiple filters and then filter again as long as you get a good filter.
I have never had a smell outside my house but if you really want to do it like that then by all means filter to the room then filter again on exit but you have to make sure that second fan and filter has a greater cfm than the one coming out of the tent. As in if you have a fan/filter of 500cfm and another of 300cfm then you want the one in the room to be more than 800cfm .
Personally I think you would be fine venting tents or the room straight outside without trying to filter it again.

Now if you went with two tents, 8x4 and 4x4 you could forget about growing autos and use one tent as veg and the bigger one for flower keeping a constant supply of plant flowering and plants getting ready to replace those once harvested.

If you go with autos then your spending more money on electricity, need your lights on for longer which is detrimental if your in an already hot climate, you also have less control over your outcome and what those plants produce.

If you try and light up your whole room with the lights you have you will end up with a load of crap stretched out plant that produce very little buds of low quality. Stick to the area they are capable of lighting and you will yield far more of a much higher quality.

Best of luck with the plan.

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Whats up! thank you very much for thinking about my setup, I'm not lighting the whole 3mx3m, they are by parts, the black ones light 2.5ftx2.5ft each in flower so we got 4 that will cover 5ftx5ft, my pots are 4gls and 1ft diameter, will be able to get 16 plants in there respecting 1.3ftx1.3ft...for the white ones they cover 2x2 so we got 4x4 there, will fit 9 plants and we got 2 corners of the white ones that will be 18 plants, then we got the white one that covers in flowering 3x3 and an extra white one, in that area with be rectangular fitting 8 plants harshly but thats ok, so there you go we got 42 plants well installed, I didn't explain myself correctly.

I think just to make sure I will buy tents and try to solve 100%, thanks for the advice!! will make sure to be aware of the CFM and all.

I will start the cloning operation when I get another house, in here I just get that room. So will start with these 42 auto plants and I hope I get 3kg

will be posting! thank you very much

neweraboss said:

Whats up! thank you very much for thinking about my setup, I'm not lighting the whole 3mx3m, they are by parts, the black ones light 2.5ftx2.5ft each in flower so we got 4 that will cover 5ftx5ft, my pots are 4gls and 1ft diameter, will be able to get 16 plants in there respecting 1.3ftx1.3ft...for the white ones they cover 2x2 so we got 4x4 there, will fit 9 plants and we got 2 corners of the white ones that will be 18 plants, then we got the white one that covers in flowering 3x3 and an extra white one, in that area with be rectangular fitting 8 plants harshly but thats ok, so there you go we got 42 plants well installed, I didn't explain myself correctly.

I think just to make sure I will buy tents and try to solve 100%, thanks for the advice!! will make sure to be aware of the CFM and all.

I will start the cloning operation when I get another house, in here I just get that room. So will start with these 42 auto plants and I hope I get 3kg

will be posting! thank you very much

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