Reserva Privada Sour Kush (Headband) waterfarm

noob78

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Subscribed! After reading Scottyballs' thread I was so impressed I had to order a Water Farm. It will be here today! I'm also gonna use a 36"x20" tent with a 400 MH&HPS. I'll be using GH Flora Nova Bloom too. It looks like yours is off to a great start, noob78!

How high above the top of the Water Farm is the screen? Are the squares in your screen roughly 2"x2"? I was thinking of making a 36"x20" wood frame using 4" square metal screen, and trying to fill every hole, which would be 45 tops total if completely filled.
Thanks for the sub. And yes scottyballs grow is inspiring, You also might want to check out OTTERMUNKY's Kandy kush waterfarm, My screen is 2"x 2", the screen is bout 9 " above the waterfarm, although the waterfarm is on a box which is 4" tall, for easy drainage. Plus what strain are you going to go with? Feel free to ask questions I'll try and help.
 

Seedling

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I'll be placing an order at the Tude Friday when the June promotion starts. My order:

G13 Labs - Pineapple Express
Barneys Farm - Vanilla Kush
Dutch Passion - Euforia
Dutch Passion - Blueberry
Female Seeds - C99
Female Seeds - White Widow x Big Bud
Bomb Seeds - Hash Bomb


UFO Freebies

World of Seeds Medical Collection - Afghan Kush x White Widow
Delicious Seeds - Fruity Chronic Juice


June Promotion Freebies

Cali Connection – Blue Dream Haze
Reserva Privada – Kandy Kush
T.H Seeds – Lambo
Delicious Seeds – Critical Jack Herer
G13 Labs – Pineapple Express
Dinafem Seeds Cheese Auto


I'm starting with the Pineapple express, and I have 3 months to decide which one is next. :) I've grown the Euforia and Blueberry under a 600 in a 4'x4' tent and I love them both. I really want to try the Vanilla Kush and the Fruity Chronic Juice. We'll see, but the pineapple express is first!
 

noob78

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I'll be placing an order at the Tude Friday when the June promotion starts. My order:

G13 Labs - Pineapple Express
Barneys Farm - Vanilla Kush
Dutch Passion - Euforia
Dutch Passion - Blueberry
Female Seeds - C99
Female Seeds - White Widow x Big Bud
Bomb Seeds - Hash Bomb


UFO Freebies

World of Seeds Medical Collection - Afghan Kush x White Widow
Delicious Seeds - Fruity Chronic Juice


June Promotion Freebies

Cali Connection – Blue Dream Haze
Reserva Privada – Kandy Kush
T.H Seeds – Lambo
Delicious Seeds – Critical Jack Herer
G13 Labs – Pineapple Express
Dinafem Seeds Cheese Auto


I'm starting with the Pineapple express, and I have 3 months to decide which one is next. :) I've grown the Euforia and Blueberry under a 600 in a 4'x4' tent and I love them both. I really want to try the Vanilla Kush and the Fruity Chronic Juice. We'll see, but the pineapple express is first!
Im jealous of that promo, blue dream haze is one i like to try, i also have Vanilla kush was going to grow that next but want a og kush though.
 

Sr. Verde

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Very honored and humbled for you to come to my journal and give advice. So thanks. First I have a 400 watt mh/hps for lights and my tent is 36"x20"x63" i have around 23" max for top of screen to light to play with. As you advised I rised the screen up to even the canopy, plus thanks for putting it that way about the screen, I am now starting to get the whole concept of the screen and how to utilize it so much respect for that. I have a few Questions for you, One what height you flower your sour kush at and what height it finally grew too? And how was the smoke from that, is that what you consider a good headstash strain?and what was the max ppms you got too? plus rep when they let me again lol.
Anytime my friend :).

I think I flowered my sour kush around 7 or 8 inches, trained, and it grew to about 2-2.8ft or so?

Awesome that your rocking the 400w. I did like 5 runs with a 250w and finally just upgraded to the 400w, it's a little easier to get good light out of it, and as equally easy as a 250w to maximize your light. So far I'm loving it so congrats on yours :).

The smoke from the sour kush was phenominal, totally in my top 5, if not my top 3 or #1. Seriously. I'm actually vaping a bag of it now. 10 weeks cured.

The smell starts out like jungle diesel and stays that way til around day 50ish when I feel like the smell totally changes and it starts pumping out some really sweet smelling resin.. By the time it's finished, it smells like sweet sugary sweet kush, with some very plesant diesel overtones that definitely will stay in your mouth long after your done tasting it. Overall the smell is something you don't get quite used to, as in the taste/flavor doesn't get boring to me like other strains. And the high - oh the high... It's a very strong one, I notice it's like 30% stronger and lasts about 30-40% longer than some of the other strains I'm used to. Just keeps on going.. It's a very sedetative high, yet very stimulating to your mind. You get that sativa head high from the diesel - creative, interesting insightful thoughts. But your appeteit is still stimulated, your body no longer aches, it feels nice, but your not couch locked unless you *want to be* like after a long day at work.

I could literally grow the sour kush over and over again. I will be trying out some other strains, but I might realisticly look at running the reserva privada sour kush like 1/3 times of all my grows just so I can keep some on hand. That good brother! :)



UPDATE Day 10 12/12 View attachment 2199781View attachment 2199782View attachment 2199783
ppm at 650 will bump back up to 700 later
temps 73 with 20% humidity
now that i have did as SR.VERDE advised and rised the screen the canopy is level, it really doesn't look like it but in person you can see that its even
Looking good. Screen height looks lots better! Now what you need to do is tuck in all the fan leaves. They call it a screen of GREEN because underneath the screen should be LOTS of leaves that will absorb all the light, and above the screen are where the fat ass colas grow from that thick thick green sea photosynthesis powerhouse... Get it? :D


Literally do this - Look at your plant stalks ABOVE the screen. Are there fan leaves visible ABOVE the screen? Is it low enough to push under the screen? If YES then PUSH the fan leaf under the screen. After about 10-15 minutes of tucking, you should be able to sit back and ask your self the same question again: "Are there any fan leaves above the screen? Am I able to force the leaf under the screen?"

After a few weeks, your stalks will grow long enough, and high enough above the screen that you can't tuck the fan leaves. Don't worry about the fan leaves high above the screen on the colas, the light will go around or scatter off other surfaces to reach that bud.

Tucking the fan leaves lets the light hit the top of developing tops, or just lets a stalk get more light on it which also helps it's development. Flower tops LOVE direct light, the fan leaves don't really care, the can be upside down under the screen with only light on 10% of the leaf will still grow in all parts. This is not true of the flower tops though, the flowers grow fatter, more equally, and more dense with the most direct light.
 

Sr. Verde

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These are from the reserva privada 250w hps grow:

First day of flower (1)



Last day of flower (72)




nugget from the less frosty plant, after 4 weeks of curing
 

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noob78

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Anytime my friend :).

I think I flowered my sour kush around 7 or 8 inches, trained, and it grew to about 2-2.8ft or so?

Awesome that your rocking the 400w. I did like 5 runs with a 250w and finally just upgraded to the 400w, it's a little easier to get good light out of it, and as equally easy as a 250w to maximize your light. So far I'm loving it so congrats on yours :).

The smoke from the sour kush was phenominal, totally in my top 5, if not my top 3 or #1. Seriously. I'm actually vaping a bag of it now. 10 weeks cured.

The smell starts out like jungle diesel and stays that way til around day 50ish when I feel like the smell totally changes and it starts pumping out some really sweet smelling resin.. By the time it's finished, it smells like sweet sugary sweet kush, with some very plesant diesel overtones that definitely will stay in your mouth long after your done tasting it. Overall the smell is something you don't get quite used to, as in the taste/flavor doesn't get boring to me like other strains. And the high - oh the high... It's a very strong one, I notice it's like 30% stronger and lasts about 30-40% longer than some of the other strains I'm used to. Just keeps on going.. It's a very sedetative high, yet very stimulating to your mind. You get that sativa head high from the diesel - creative, interesting insightful thoughts. But your appeteit is still stimulated, your body no longer aches, it feels nice, but your not couch locked unless you *want to be* like after a long day at work.

I could literally grow the sour kush over and over again. I will be trying out some other strains, but I might realisticly look at running the reserva privada sour kush like 1/3 times of all my grows just so I can keep some on hand. That good brother! :)





Looking good. Screen height looks lots better! Now what you need to do is tuck in all the fan leaves. They call it a screen of GREEN because underneath the screen should be LOTS of leaves that will absorb all the light, and above the screen are where the fat ass colas grow from that thick thick green sea photosynthesis powerhouse... Get it? :D


Literally do this - Look at your plant stalks ABOVE the screen. Are there fan leaves visible ABOVE the screen? Is it low enough to push under the screen? If YES then PUSH the fan leaf under the screen. After about 10-15 minutes of tucking, you should be able to sit back and ask your self the same question again: "Are there any fan leaves above the screen? Am I able to force the leaf under the screen?"

After a few weeks, your stalks will grow long enough, and high enough above the screen that you can't tuck the fan leaves. Don't worry about the fan leaves high above the screen on the colas, the light will go around or scatter off other surfaces to reach that bud.

Tucking the fan leaves lets the light hit the top of developing tops, or just lets a stalk get more light on it which also helps it's development. Flower tops LOVE direct light, the fan leaves don't really care, the can be upside down under the screen with only light on 10% of the leaf will still grow in all parts. This is not true of the flower tops though, the flowers grow fatter, more equally, and more dense with the most direct light.
That is awesome about what you say about the sour kush, i have clones and if everything goes right here i'll run it again until i find something better. I will tuck all the leaves i can tomorrow when lights are on, and post pics for your comments, plus your advice so far is invaluable and very much appreciated,you have given my dream of a grow like yours and others a realistic shot, plus knowledge I would have never otherwise received. I was wondering which plant mine reminds you of, 1 or 2?
 

Sr. Verde

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Killer bro!!!!!!!! You got it!! I'm impressed with how quick you picked up the concept!


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You see how much more light is going to get into your canopy now? It's all about getting those tops as much direct light as possible, and without giving ONE top more light than the others.. :)

Now a tip for your tucking: I find the main stems, are the ones that grow the fastest. The stems, growing off the main stems will grow second fastest, and so on. When you train, you must keep in mind how fast a branch will grow in length so you can account for it, perhaps put it like 3 inches lower than other branches, knowing it will grow faster than the other branches and catch up in a week. This is a skill that is learned with experience, trial, error and observation. It will save time in that you can know where your branches will be weeks before they get there. You will also spend less time training, if you can train with the position of the branch in 3 weeks in mind at the time of training. Lets you fuss with it less. So don't worry about perfecting it off the bat, but pay attention to the logic of this:

If you keep the secondary branch tops slightly above the screen level, and you put the main branch top slightly under, they will end up in the same place in a week. You will need to continually train them down, and out, evenly until the flower stretch is done. The first 20 or so days where cannabis stretches in response to 12/12 is the time you get to even out your screen. Once the plant switches from stretch mode, to full on budding mode you really cant train a whole lot more, nor should you. So basically around day 20 the goal is to have some flowers starting out nice, that are all within about 4 inches of eachother in height. You should be able to get about 60-80% of your main flowers within like 2 inches of eachother. My Sour Kush canopy was SUPER even, not to brag, it was a really easy strain to train, but I definitely account the even screen at the start of the vigorous flower phase, to the sheer wall of even nugs tucked in between eachother by the time they were done day 72.

you have given my dream of a grow like yours and others a realistic shot, plus knowledge I would have never otherwise received. I was wondering which plant mine reminds you of, 1 or 2?
Awh ya make me blush ;D. I haven't been doing this as long as some people my friend, my grows could be better and will be better! It's very likely yours will "look as good as mine".. All it takes is light, some decent temperatures, low humidity, the right plant food, ventilation and time... and you are growing the best herb you've smoked. Just paying attention to your plants and WANTING them to grow better the next run will make your crop better and better.

This pineapple express grow is looking killer, I can't imagine what the nugs will look like under 400w HPS considering what the Sour Kush looked like under only 250W! Also, the Pineapple express plants are about 4x larger than the sour kush (for day 1 of 12/12) so I'm hoping I have fatass colas flopping out the front of the tent when I open it around day 50 :). What I'm saying is that, as good as the Sour Kush looks, I'm excited to see the Pineapple express this run because I know I will be growing them better than I could grow the sour kush :).


As far as phenotypes... I have no idea for you, I have nothing to compare to, and until I see them flower I wont see most of the traits that makes them stand out.. There are likely a number of phenos with the RP: Sour Kush but I'm finding they are usually OG kush dominant, or Sour Diesel dominant. You can look into my journal more for pheno comparisons, but I found that 1 was very tall and vigorous.. In the end it smelled more diesel, and had more of a sativa high.. The high felt slightly incomplete, but still like some skunky diesel. then 2 was lots shorter (put it on bricks to even the canopy).. it had less vigorous growth but at the same time it had tighter, more numerous nodes. 2 smelled a bit more like the sweet sweet chronic smell, the fruity kush smell, with diesel overtones. The nugs were super dense, and frosted over like CRAZY. The high was very complete, very awesome!

:peace:
 

noob78

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thanks for putting me on the right track, once i got the concept of what you were saying it all really made sense. and i very interested in your pe grow might grow that after the og kush #18.
 

Sr. Verde

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I'll let you know how it is.. I've had a good amount of it about a year and a half ago - commercial quality chronic too. Was still really very good. I noticed it was relaxing like maui wowie, but smelled lighter and more fruity than the maui wowie.. Can't wait to see what the home grown smells/tastes like.. I will definitely report back on that to you though ;).
 

alienrain

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Question for you Noob78...what's the ppm of your tap water? And do you take the increase in ppm into account when mixing your nutes?

Nice grow by the way.
 

noob78

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Question for you Noob78...what's the ppm of your tap water? And do you take the increase in ppm into account when mixing your nutes?

Nice grow by the way.
My tap water is 150 ppm and is 6.0 ph and yes i do take that into consideration when doing nutes. I use floranova bloom from start to finish. I used to use Ph up and down but i dont use any of that anymore. Never really had a problem yet, Figures crossed. And thanks for coming through, have anymore questions feel free to ask.
 

alienrain

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What do you do about the chunks in the floranova bloom? I've been getting several chunks lately.
 

noob78

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What do you do about the chunks in the floranova bloom? I've been getting several chunks lately.
I haven't had any chunks, i just shake the jug and mix. What kind of chunks you have hard or soft? Maybe you can mix them up in a batch of water let them dissolve and test the ppm, probably going to be off the charts but then use that mixture and make up a couple of gallons of nute solution and still use the chunks, just a suggestion
 

noob78

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Hey out there need your help narrowing down what i will grow next between
Cali Connection Buddah Tahoe
Reserva Privada The Og #18
barney's farm Vanilla Kush
Th Seeds Mkage
please help me choose and always thanks
 
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