Rinse Miracle gro perlite?

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I am mixing together my soil, and the only perlite I have is MG. I saw some people rinse it good before using it, you think its good for organics then? Id think itd all come off?
 
I am mixing together my soil, and the only perlite I have is MG. I saw some people rinse it good before using it, you think its good for organics then? Id think itd all come off?
Do you have woods around you perlite does not have and real benefiet other then some areation and floating to the top of soil when watered. It works and I am ot bashing just asking and try to give a lil light
 
Do you have woods around you perlite does not have and real benefiet other then some areation and floating to the top of soil when watered. It works and I am ot bashing just asking and try to give a lil light
Yeah and it's mined which I want to Preserve all our Fossil Deppsits which took "millions" of years to "develop", and save them for dire necessity.

Like Petroleum! You can synthesize Anything from it, So we should Stop using it up as a fuel and start using BioMass Ethanol--NOT Synthesized ethanol which is denatured and Blie and gunks up engines--Real Ethanol burns clean and will Remove the carbon build up on your engines, but Only that good Old Shine! Why it's illegal.!

But why do you ask if he's got some woods?

I personally just used Sand and Rocks for my aeration. Though I read a very Fine sand can lead to compaction instead of drainage...
 
I think folks wash MG perlite because it is enriched with MG plant food.
Also to remove the dust

Yeah and it's mined which I want to Preserve all our Fossil Deppsits which took "millions" of years to "develop", and save them for dire necessity.

Like Petroleum! You can synthesize Anything from it, So we should Stop using it up as a fuel and start using BioMass Ethanol--NOT Synthesized ethanol which is denatured and Blie and gunks up engines--Real Ethanol burns clean and will Remove the carbon build up on your engines, but Only that good Old Shine! Why it's illegal.!

But why do you ask if he's got some woods?

I personally just used Sand and Rocks for my aeration. Though I read a very Fine sand can lead to compaction instead of drainage...
If you can find hardwoods the have fallen over and are rotted (can crumble with fingers which means it's broken down it adds excellent drainage areation and moisture in the soil. Also allows place for microbes to chill or what not
 
Thats why, your on the money.

I do have woods near me, Im organic so dont want synthetics. I want to have my soil start "cooking" now so I dont have time to buy anything, I was thinking my soil could cook and mix in aeration before I use it? Whats your guys' suggestions?
If your thinking cook first without aeration and than add before use that would be a mistake. And per lite is fine there bro. Does provide a space for mirco-life to gather in and around, provides good drainage and aeration. The floating thing is more of a problem (for me at least) in larger no till pots. after 2 runs i noticed a greater (density) at the bottum few inches of my pots, and near the top few inches looked to be 50% plus per lite. BUT i believe watering practices have more to do with this phenomenon. less water more often and you probable wont have ANY issues at all.
 
I personally just used Sand and Rocks for my aeration. Though I read a very Fine sand can lead to compaction instead of drainage...

rocks and sand do not hold air OR water the way a good drainage material does. they also don't perform cation exchange which a good drainage material does.

Clay is responsible for the CEC in NATURAL soils build by PARENT MATERIALS. this is why we NEED a good source of drainage in indoor growing. here is a link for you, enjoy

http://www.colinlewisbonsai.com/Reading/soils2.html
 
rocks and sand do not hold air OR water the way a good drainage material does. they also don't perform cation exchange which a good drainage material does.

Clay is responsible for the CEC in NATURAL soils build by PARENT MATERIALS. this is why we NEED a good source of drainage in indoor growing. here is a link for you, enjoy

http://www.colinlewisbonsai.com/Reading/soils2.html
thanks for sharing! Man do i want to get into bonsai growing! i think it would be so much fun.
 
Well, what I want to know is if I can rinse the perlite since its miracle gro brand. Can I use it with my organic soil?
 
I also wanted to say, I really like the organic crowd. Definitley a different group of people, cares about the planet and what's in it.
yes sir! I venture over to plant problems, general growing every once in a while. come running back here to organics. I was just talking to a friend about this same thing. why are soil organic growers so much happier and friendlier than your average chem y grower?? I say average because im sure there are many exceptions. But we deducted that organic growers don't have much of an ego complex.
Well, what I want to know is if I can rinse the perlite since its miracle gro brand. Can I use it with my organic soil?
Got any pics of the ingredients of this MG perlite
 
rocks and sand do not hold air OR water the way a good drainage material does. they also don't perform cation exchange which a good drainage material does.

Clay is responsible for the CEC in NATURAL soils build by PARENT MATERIALS. this is why we NEED a good source of drainage in indoor growing. here is a link for you, enjoy

http://www.colinlewisbonsai.com/Reading/soils2.html
I used clay as well actually... Cation exchange?! But I just thought clay was Not for aeration, because they say to Add organic material and some sand if garden is hard clay.

I guess too much of Anything is never a good thing.
I think folks wash MG perlite because it is enriched with MG plant food.
exactly this is what I thought... The urea nitrogen...
Also to remove the dust


If you can find hardwoods the have fallen over and are rotted (can crumble with fingers which means it's broken down it adds excellent drainage areation and moisture in the soil. Also allows place for microbes to chill or what not
nice great idea! I didn't really think about that, I'm working on my new mix here soon and I'll be adding some of those Four Shore!
 
Well, what I want to know is if I can rinse the perlite since its miracle gro brand. Can I use it with my organic soil?
Hahaha yes. If this is all you have go for it... BUT I would wash it first a couple times to just help rinse the nutes off. And next time find a different source, order online, or a farm supply store locally.
 
If your adding biochar or anything you need to charge it first before adding to soil or it will absorb ammendments
Oh shit so glad you mentioned this!!!! Completely forgot! Thanks for the reminder...

Cation is an Ion with Negative Protons... Cation-Exchange Capacity is "Clay and Humus have electrostatic surface charges that attract and hold ions. The holding capacity of clay varies with the type of clay. Humus has a CEC that is two to three times that of the best clay.

One way to increase the CEC of a soil is to enhance the formation of humus.

In general, the higher the CEC, the higher the fertility of that soil."

Thanks for the information shulby!
 
If your adding biochar or anything you need to charge it first before adding to soil or it will absorb ammendments
Im not adding that this time.

I have 1.5 Cu. ft Roots Organic Original
.75 Cu. Ft Ocean Forest

Purple cow compost
EWC
Miracle gro perlite
Miracle gro Sphagnum peat moss(both have added nutes)
Coco coir

Alfalfa meal
Fish bone meal
Kelp meal
Crab Shell Meal
Oyster shell flour

Peruvian seabird guano
Glacial rock dust


Id like to add neem seed meal and another mineral but wss told this would work great. I have a worm bin going as well. Ive asked alot of people sorry if it annoys anyone, but what do you think I should do with what I have? Thank you.
 
Im not adding that this time.

I have 1.5 Cu. ft Roots Organic Original
.75 Cu. Ft Ocean Forest

Purple cow compost
EWC
Miracle gro perlite
Miracle gro Sphagnum peat moss(both have added nutes)
Coco coir

Alfalfa meal
Fish bone meal
Kelp meal
Crab Shell Meal
Oyster shell flour

Peruvian seabird guano
Glacial rock dust


Id like to add neem seed meal and another mineral but wss told this would work great. I have a worm bin going as well. Ive asked alot of people sorry if it annoys anyone, but what do you think I should do with what I have? Thank you.
All organic people on this forum are really nice people and will help without hesitation and don't really troll or start shit with others........THERE HIPPIES LOL
 
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