Ripe?

Propagate · Sep 9, 2011

ok so I kinda want to finish my chop. do they look fully ripe?[URL="https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/marijuana-plant-problems/1777162d1315541410-too-much-nitrogen-4-weeks-upclose.jpg"][/URL]

danks.for.asking · Sep 9, 2011

i wanna say yes, but just look at the trichomes. nice lookin nuggets though

darkdestruction420 · Sep 9, 2011

go for it.

dante76 · Sep 9, 2011

that 3rd pick shows some amber tri's....looks good. Have you already flushed?

Propagate · Sep 9, 2011

dante76 said:
that 3rd pick shows some amber tri's....looks good. Have you already flushed?

yup, its supersoil

whitefrost · Sep 9, 2011

chop chop chop

k0ijn · Sep 10, 2011

They look about ready.
Remember to dry and cure properly.

nog · Sep 10, 2011

cut them dont get too hung upon TRICHOMES, some strains trichomes don't change colour, you coud be waiting forever, when most of the pistills have gone brown cut cut cut.

darkdestruction420 · Sep 10, 2011

nog said:
cut them dont get too hung upon TRICHOMES, some strains trichomes don't change colour, you coud be waiting forever, when most of the pistills have gone brown cut cut cut.

can you prove that in any way?

k0ijn · Sep 10, 2011

nog said:
cut them dont get too hung upon TRICHOMES, some strains trichomes don't change colour, you coud be waiting forever, when most of the pistills have gone brown cut cut cut.

Possibly one of the most wrong statements I've seen on this forum.

cannabisguru · Sep 10, 2011

danks.for.asking said:
i wanna say yes, but just look at the trichomes. nice lookin nuggets though

Ah, caught a complete newbie mistake in action!!

Despite what most people will tell you, that the only way to tell if your plant is fully ripe enough for harvesting is by checking the color of the trichs (color of the resin inside the dome-top trichs) isn't completely true. While this method, is part of the correct process of checking the ripeness of the plant.. you shouldn't jusge the ripeness ONLY by the color of the trichs.

I just got done formatting my box, completely wiped/formatted the HD clean.. so I don't have the article at hand, though I do have it on disk.. so I don't have it to post at this time. If your interested in reading it, try searching the forums and see if you can find it. I don't even remember the thread title.. so it might kinda hard to find via search. If your actually and truly interested in reading it, msg me and let me know that your interested in reading it.. and I'll go get my disk and transfer the file so that I can post/send it to you.

Peace.

cannabisguru · Sep 10, 2011

k0ijn said:
Possibly one of the most wrong statements I've seen on this forum.

Actually, this statement has some validity to it, believe it or not.

It's true, some strains.. the trichs indeed don't and or won't change. Let me rephrase that.. on certain strains (especially and mainly Sativa Dom strains) the trichs won't ever hardly go from Cloudy/Hazey to the usual 'red/brownish' color that you'll see mostly with Indica Dom strains.

I've grown some Sativa dom strains in the past, where the trichs never went amber. Not even after 13 full weeks of flowering. They went all the way to very hazey/dark/cloudy.. went as about as opaque as you can get, without actually turning amber/brownish.

So again his statement does in fact have some validity to it.

peace.

k0ijn · Sep 10, 2011

cannabisguru said:
Actually, this statement has some validity to it, believe it or not.

It's true, some strains.. the trichs indeed don't and or won't change. Let me rephrase that.. on certain strains (especially and mainly Sativa Dom strains) the trichs won't ever hardly go from Cloudy/Hazey to the usual 'red/brownish' color that you'll see mostly with Indica Dom strains.

I've grown some Sativa dom strains in the past, where the trichs never went amber. Not even after 13 full weeks of flowering. They went all the way to very hazey/dark/cloudy.. went as about as opaque as you can get, without actually turning amber/brownish.

So again his statement does in fact have some validity to it.

peace.

Taking into account what the poster wrote, I'd say it's wrong.
Every strain changes trich colour, from clear to milky.
Some strains don't really show amber until they are harvested but by far most do.
Ergo, saying some strains won't have trichs changing colour is beyond wrong.

I know that you shouldn't judge maturity on trichs alone.
But saying that trichs won't change colour on some strains and that you should read pistil colours to determine maturity is just wrong flat out mate.

Yes you need to rephrase that statement to make it true.
And no, his statement does not have any validity to it the way he presented it.

If he had said that some strains don't really turn from milky to brown/orange/red/blue/purple, then yes he would be right.
But the fact he didn't and the fact that he mentions pistils as a maturity indicator shows how wrong he is.

EDIT: I don't know if you have followed this section of the forum, but the amount of misinformation / bad information and just flat our wrong information is incredible.
People throw advice around like it's for fun, most of it is just straight out wrong and can actually harm the newbies grow.

TwistedGenetics · Sep 10, 2011

True that. I am new here and already I have come across soooooooooooo much completely false information, randomly posted throughout the forums.

k0ijn · Sep 10, 2011

TwistedGenetics said:
True that. I am new here and already I have come across soooooooooooo much completely false information, randomly posted throughout the forums.

I know mate, believe me I'm trying to keep this section of the forum clear of false info.
It's hard to keep up though.

oHsiN666 · Sep 10, 2011

man, now im scared. im fully 100% colorblind. i see colors. i know what the basic 8 colors are, i have a a hard time seeing tones/hues/shades. im highly afraid of letting my plants go too long. i read in the Big Book of Buds Vol. 1 that you want ot harvest White Widow when you see a few amber colored hairs. and i quote from the book: "The buds only develop a few amber-colored hairs, but the outrageous crystalline resin production of this plant has become legendary." i understand the argument. the difference is the trichromes actually change no matter what. they will go from clear to cloudy. does that mean you can not achieve a couch-lock type of high with those strains? doesn't 50% amber trichs give you the couch-lock-narcotic type of high? or let you know to pull if that is what one is looking to achieve?

***sorry if that didn't make much sense, im rather baked***

k0ijn · Sep 10, 2011

oHsiN666 said:
man, now im scared. im fully 100% colorblind. i see colors. i know what the basic 8 colors are, i have a a hard time seeing tones/hues/shades. im highly afraid of letting my plants go too long. i read in the Big Book of Buds Vol. 1 that you want ot harvest White Widow when you see a few amber colored hairs. and i quote from the book: "The buds only develop a few amber-colored hairs, but the outrageous crystalline resin production of this plant has become legendary." i understand the argument. the difference is the trichromes actually change no matter what. they will go from clear to cloudy. does that mean you can not achieve a couch-lock type of high with those strains? doesn't 50% amber trichs give you the couch-lock-narcotic type of high? or let you know to pull if that is what one is looking to achieve?

***sorry if that didn't make much sense, im rather baked***

Have you looked at some trich close ups?
Can you see the difference between; clear, milky and amber?

Strains which do not turn trichs from milky to amber are rare and few.
I doesn't sound like WW is one of them and as far as I know it isn't.
I'm not sure if you're misunderstanding the difference between pistils and trichomes?
The fact that WW doesn't develop many amber pistils isn't worrying.
Many strains don't, some strains have white pistils while the amber trichs are abundant.
That is why you should always base your maturity guesstimate on trichs.

Propagate · Sep 10, 2011

I have been chopping a little bit a day, I think I am finally ready to take the whole thing down.. I think everyone needs to stop fighting and realize ripeness/doneness ismore of an overall thing. Trichs play a part as well as swolen calyxes and dying pistols. https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/210501-zeuss-take-harvesting.html is a great guide. I post these pictures/threads less asking for advice, but more trying to supply a good thread with pictures to help others in the future. I would say there is more incorrect information on this site than accurate.

Its never just this or just that, there are few extremes in life. Take what you read and combine them with your own experiences and take them for what they are, your experiences.

direwolf71 · Sep 26, 2011

https://www.rollitup.org/harvesting-curing/28072-harvest-time-tutorial.html

Brick Top · Sep 26, 2011

nog said:
cut them dont get too hung upon TRICHOMES, some strains trichomes don't change colour, you coud be waiting forever, when most of the pistills have gone brown cut cut cut.

Ever since learning about judging when to harvest by inspecting trichomes I have never seen any strain where the trichomes did not change. Never. I have had strains where the trichomes did not follow the usual clear, cloudy, amber progression, but they still changed.

As for pistils, they are not as accurate of a sign of when to harvest as trichomes are. Some strains are fully ripe and ready to harvest when their pistils are still white. Matanuska Tundra is one. If you grow it, and some others, and wait for brown pistils you will harvest late, very late.

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