Roseman's DIY Bubbleponics Tutorial

HomeGrownHairy

HomeGrownHairy

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WEREWOLFS BITE said:
Mr Roseman,
I apologies for not keep to the mood of the "POT" forums. If'n I'm every too much out of line, please you'll let me know !My position is a unique one as I've mentioned. My only advice for the folks here, is your advice, like back at you. :) Probaly get tired of samo el samo. My families who has heard so much about you, thinks I should just be myself for now. So mabey I can come looking just ordinary to you guys and spook you away. Leaving already, Love you Tiddles!!:)
+-What gets me is how you seem to have the patience of Job. Yet I'm ten years younger, and the patience of a Rattle Snake. Does ten years around the island really make that much difference. Perhaps you were born with it or gifted to from God, either way, extraordinary Sir!!!
Your expertise in the Bubblephonics field, is the facto standard, There is no use argueing it, I tell you it is so! :)My brothernlaw is dying again from cancer , we've said good bye five time now. I've threatn to throw his in the ground and cover him with dirt, if he dosen't croak already. He heard all our sincerities many time over. He ready and we love him. So fuck 'em, his troubles are about over and we got to still eat broken glass around when he's gone. Lived in heaven for a week and ahalf some years ago, God had kill me and I had go down and face the Devil. But then he let me come up and live with him for awhile. Fantastic, he'll be in so such great hands. And we'll con't the WTF game with daily with God. Such is life.
Married with blond, big tits long legs, blue eyes. Yes, she is the bitch of bitches. So what wife isn't. She seven years my senior, more your age, than mine. 34 years, she's been hanging around, mabey magnatism and bitch run in the same family.
Texas born and bred, when she nailed me she drug my ass to Wash State. Worked in Wash, Montana, and Oregon Parks for some time , then God pulled me out and back home. Told me he was putting me on the back of the desert, for a period of rest, out of the church and everything, that was twenty something years ago. Still waiting, Re- trained myself to fixing, building Computer about 10 years or so ago. Originally thought I'd make some extra pepper for the salad, but just never had the heart to charge any one. I did charge one guy some time ago, because my wife said I should, they are always right of course, but it broke my heart and took the joy away I had gained from working on them. So I chose never Lord willing not to do so ever again. Wife reminds me the extra $20,000 in parts I'd given away as well. Women, got the memories of an elephant.
Please don't think I was an obediant servant of Christ. Far be it! I tried every possible way of getting out this hole I call it. Finally one day I told God , did'nt give a shit I waited long enough, going to go out any get job anyways. He said fine( guess he got tired of hearing bitch about everything)so He'd get me a job at the local cab company that afternoon, murder me that night and take my ass out of here for good. Fine I said ! Started up the car, grabbed the gear shift and then it crossed my mine that everything that God has ever told always came to pass. And did'nt really want to leave this shit hole this, this way after everything I've already been through. So I told God fine. Don't know what so damn important for me to being here anyways ! Well that afternoon the cab company in the little country town I live in hired a fellow, he was murdered that night for $22.00 from a couple of farm workers. So here I wait, with only the things that God has told me to offer anyone. Not that they want to hear it of course, goes without saying.
And yea, there times we needed money and of course pray O Lord you stingy bastard, we, need $34.17 cents to get by till next month after food etc.. And sure enough although nobody would know nothing of us, We, get a check for $34.17 in the mail the next day or two, from some yahoo we never heard of and on and on and on... I know Jews are suppose to be cheap skates but God, trust me on this, Knows how to save a buck. It's not that we' were lacking in anything. that any other extremely poor person might have. Clothes on the back, food in the stomach, such as it was.. I fear I bore you.
Many years ago, God told my wife and I we would not have many friends brought the point home by telling us three times already. And true enough as nice as I tried to be to people and give thousands away. Yet I've had one person come visit me in like 4 plus years. I do get some company when I can worked on someone's computer though. But that seems to be winding down now as well. Books, got lots and lots of books, yawn. Nice company for a lazy afternoon, I suppose. So where does "POT come in all this" They just passed a law in Wash State here a while back ,says you can have fifteen plants and 24 usuable ounces. So out of nothing than more than pure fucking spite, ( work for the state of Wash some years ago) I mabey do if for anything of sticking to this redicules State Government they have here. Use to smoke this years ago before and after becoming a Christian. I guess if'n he dosen't give a shit why should I, and so fuck the State!! Mabey you'd have to live here (God forbid!!)to understand. Liars, thiefs every damn one of them. Nothing new under the sun. Anyways, been checking into to it like, so far you and yours setup is about the only truly honest person not trying to score a buck. I also however learned some valuable lessons about growing pot if'n I decide to do it. Really hate to see you guys having to weasle your way around on the internet, I'm so sorry, for you guys, Hope God sends all your enemies straight to hell!! One thing about God though dosen't give an iota for anything I want. But mabey if'n you guys ask him mabey he'll send them to hell for you !! With God anything is possible and I'm not just a kidding he really is the wierdest S.O.B. I've ever known. Saw him kill people, just cause, wierrrrrd.... Haven't typed this much in one day in years. But thought I lay some ground work on how I was and my intentions. Wife says I got a kind of thing for laying my cards on the table and it sometime troubles people, I'm sorry if'n that is so. I have no idea if'n you or your friends have any intentions of listening to likes of me. But if anyhow I got to finally say THANK YOU to you Mr. Roseman and your friends as well.
One more thing, If'n I may, when the whole world throws you in the ditch and nobody is there to help you. Give me a call, who knows mabey I can do something, God Willing.......... Bob (509-943-0780) Smoke one for me one day ,guys THANKS!!
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Consider this thread hijacked...lol
 
loolagigi

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i cant help it. i scanned through that dudes post, and started laughing my ass off. what kind of mj does he have? i want some dude.
 
infexion1134

infexion1134

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Sorry to post off topic like this but i just want to chime in for a second.
WEREWOLFS BITE your posts are very long, your grammar is terrible, and your ramblings are incomprehensible. I'm christian faith however I seldom practice. That being said I think the Lord could have chosen a more suitable prophet.
Again Roseman, sorry for the thread clutter.
 
Roseman

Roseman

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Good Grief!

People complain about having to read and go through the 15,000 posts and 1550 pages on the SH Bubblponics Thread to learn, so I have tried and tried to reduce the clutter and traffic on this thread to a minimum.

SOME PEOPLE JUST CAN'T READ OR COMPREHEND WHAT IS POSTED..




IF I ignore you, it might be because you ignored this:


QUESTIONS might be answered here about YOUR Bubbleponics grow:
Questions about Bubbleponic Growing Thread
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PLEASE DO NOT HI-JACK THIS TUTORIAL with BULLSHIT CONVERSATIONS.


PLEASE DO NOT POST YOUR GROW HERE.

PLEASE DO NOT USE MY THREAD AS A CHAT ROOM FOR YOUR DISCUSSIONS.

I am trying to replace my 1500 page thread with this thread so it can be read and used more often as a source of reference.

I really appreciated your consideration if I got it.
 
Roseman

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I BET YOU WON'T CHAT HERE OR RANT AND RAVE HERE AGAIN.

I just keep adding Iliterates to my IGNORE LIST.
 
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Roseman, I understand how removing the fan leaves deprives the plant of energy but how does removing so much of the root mass not steal energy as well when the roots regrow? I believe you that it works just not comprehending why.
 
Roseman

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Weekly Drain and Replinish

Topping Off the Tank's Reservoir

I have tried to not use scientific terms or even get technical, but I might have to, to explain something that needs explaining here. I really do own 14 books on Hydroponic Indoor Growing. And I have studied them too. Some of the books were written simply, and some are difficult for me to comprehend and even more difficult for me to explain. They all vary a little on the perfect pH level, and they all vary on LIGHTING, some books were written way before CFLs were sold, or when CFLs were new on the scene. But they all agree on Topping Off the tank and Draining and Replinishing the water and nutrients.

To address this, I am going to post it twice to be sure I explain it. You will need to read both explanations.

After the nutes are added to the tank and the pH is balanced, the plants start eating, consuming the food. Logically, the larger the tank, the more water there is, and the more nutes you need. Logically, the larger the plants, the more they will eat from the tank. Logically, the more plants that are in the tank, the more they will eat. And Logically, the more they eat, the more nutes that you need in the tank. The amount of nutes provided is in relationship to the amount of water, NOT the amount of plants. It is the Ratio or Proprotion in the water that is important. The amount of nutes added to the tank are measured by we commonly call a PPM Meter, PPM meaning parts per million.

The Instructions on the nutrients contain the proper amount of nutes to add to the water, usually determined by "per gallon", and not by "per plant" or "size of plants". In the beginning, we start with 1/4 dose of nutrients, because a full dose is meant for full grown plants. If we use a ppm meter, we seek a ppm of 150 to 250 ppms on average for small young sprouts, it varies from nutrient to nutrient. As the plants grow, we then slowly and gradually increase the nutrients fed to them, and consequently we increase the ppm. By the time the plants are over a foot tall, we will be in the neighborhood of a ppm of 600, then 800 on up to 1200 ppm. Some growers risk even higher ppms, watching the leaves tips for yellowing, to know when to back off with feedings. And as we add more food, the plants grow and eat more, indicated by them also drinking more water. As a rule of thumb, we figure if they drank half of the water, they then must of ate half the food. That is close to being right, but not precisely. If the grow room was exceptionly HOT, they can drink more water without eating more food. And consequently, some days, they eat more, some days they eat less, regardless of the amount of the water missing.

As they eat, they do not eat all of the delivered nutes at the same rate, or same proportion, and that changes the pH and the ppm. It also changes what they call the RNC, or RELATIONSHIP OF NUTRIENT CONCENTRATION. That CHANGE is not easy to calculate or measure, like the ppm or pH is easy to measure.
When the nutrients are first introduced or added, the RNC is perfect, or properly proportioned. In other words, there are specific amounts or precise amounts of each needed nutrient. The exact amount of needed Nitrogen, Phosphorous, and Potash, also commonly called Potassium are present and available for food for the plants.

BUT, as the plants eat, they do not eat all of the nutrients in a perfect proportion or at a perfect rate or equal rate. Some days, they want what grows longer roots, some days, they want what makes more leaves. The plants actually nibble at some nutrients in the mix each day, and gobble down some others. Some of the nutrients are not hardly eaten at all, some are absorbed very quickly. This creates an IMBALANCE of the mix. If you add more water and nutes daily to replace the eaten nutes, (CALLED TOPPING OFF) the IMBALANCE INCREASES. If you only add plain water daily, again, Top It Off, you still get the imbalance. AND the nutes not eaten, or the nutes that are increased daily cause a build up of nutes, and that creates a BAD imbalance of the RNC.
When this happens, the water becomes TOXIC and unusable even tho the ppm meter says there is a proper amount of nutrients. The plants say I AM NOT HAPPY WITH THE BUFFET and like a spoiled child unhappy at the dinner table, they suddenly refuse to eat anything. This is called NUTRITIONAL LOCKOUT. This happens even tho the ppm meter says there are plenty of parts per million in the water. The ppm meter does not indicate if the nutrients are balanced or at a toxic level. It just indicates there is plenty of food on the table.

THIS IS WHY WE MUST WEEKLY DUMP IT ALL AND START ALL OVER.
THIS IS WHY WE MUST DRAIN AND REPLINISH WEEKLY, regardless of whether we TOP OFF with plain water, or TOP OFF with water and a fractional dose of nutes.
Changing the water weekly maintains the proper RNC.
 
Roseman

Roseman

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Weekly Drain and Replinish

Topping Off the Tank's Reservoir


Daily Maintenance of the reservoir is mostly keeping the pH at the proper level, and keeping the same level of water in the tank as it is used or evaporates. It is also keeping the nutrient mix or nutrient solution at a proper level, a level that is NOT toxic or too strong.
In the day to day course of maintaining the tank two problems occur. Remember how we discussed ppm, parts per million? Then we discussed RNC, RELATIONSHIP OF NUTRIENT CONCENTRATION. Well, we also need to discuss TDS, Total Disolved Salts. As the water evaporates or is consumed, the concentration of TDS becomes stronger, to the point of being Toxic. The TDS increase as the amount of water decreases. This creates the need to replinish the water, to replace the water. As we replace that missing water, we create an IMBALANCE. Hydroponic grown plants eat what they need, as they need it and they leave some nutes to build up and accumalate into a posionious or toxic level.
This creates the need to daily TOP IT OFF. I have already discussed starting Feedings and Draining and Replinishing in this thread twice. It is simple enough, daily replace what you estimate is gone, consumed, eaten, and absorbed.

But weekly, you need to clear the buffet table and start all over with fresh foods. This gives the plant not only a well balanced buffet table to eat from, but also supplies it with FRESH Food that has not been altered by the plants being picky and choosey.


And, there is the Growth Spurt you will get during the Drain, as the roots get a 5 to 15 mintues air bath. It also gives you the opportunity to look for crimped air hoses, scrub the air stones clean and look for debris and trash in the tank that messes with the pH balance.

Also, as the water ages, undesirable harmful microbes appear and grow in the water. You also take the chance of insect larvae and algae appearing, and weekly draining the tank helps prevent those problems too.
 
Roseman

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I have NINE Females! I still hope to get a pound of dried manicured buds from the closet, even after I lost those 5 branches to a fallen lamp.

2 are the smallest runts that I hae ever seen, like 12 inches tall, 2 are the largest that I have ever seen, 47 and 50 inches tall, and one is extra large but not a giant about 38 inches tall, and two are mediums between 30 and 36 inches tall. And I have 6 weeks to go!
I have never had so many females out of the number of seeds that I started.
I only had 14 plants at the beginning, now I have 9 females.




 

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I took a few pics of the closet. It is a closet FULL of pot!

I have not taken the chains down yet that the lights hang from, but most of the lights are hanging off of the closet pole and the closet shelf now. I have the very tall plants bent over, tied with thin wire and tape.
This grow is going way beyond my expectations.








 

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The bottom base of this giant in the far corner is way larger than a silver dollar. The other one you see closer to you is the 5th largest plant.

I put a regular cigarette lighter next to it, so you can see compare the size.



 

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