• Here is a link to the full explanation: https://rollitup.org/t/welcome-back-did-you-try-turning-it-off-and-on-again.1104810/

Russia is supporting Bernie Sanders as well as Trump again in 2020.

hanimmal

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Boatguy

Boatguy

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Creating division, and influencing out elections are serious threats.
Trump is like officer Barbrady in southpark "move along, nothing to see here".
Both parties, as well as all of us should be very concerned. This is an attack on our system.
Electoral is the easiest to manipulate so it should go first.
 
hanimmal

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I think the place to start is a a nice new law that says once politicians are sworn in (at time they sign up to run for public office) they are bound by law to tell the truth at all times just like anyone lying to congress while under oath would be.
 
hanimmal

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I mean whats the chances the Russians have something actually bad on Bernie?

The KGB was big on hidden cameras in rooms of visiting politicians, and he was on his honeymoon in Moscow. If he gets the Democratic nominee I really hope that it is not something worse than the obvious.
 
Unclebaldrick

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UncleBuck said:
Yeah, I know

It’s way more obvious this time around
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It is. It's been hard for me not to hold it against Bernie. The problem is that a lot of the mindless dolts who support him are very easily influenced by foreign efforts to get Trump elected. I support many of Bernie's policies but ultimately I just don't think he'll be very good at getting them done.
 
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MidwestGorilla219

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Russia is winning because of threads like this, this is what Russia wants and your feeding right into it. I said it before, if Russia doesn't like a democratic candidate all they have to do is pretend to support that candidate. Congratulations for giving Russia what they really want, which is to sow discord in American politics.
 
hanimmal

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MidwestGorilla219 said:
Russia is winning because of threads like this, this is what Russia wants and your feeding right into it. I said it before, if Russia doesn't like a democratic candidate all they have to do is pretend to support that candidate. Congratulations for giving Russia what they really want, which is to sow discord in American politics.
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Im sorry but I am not buying that pointing out that Russia is helping candidates is a bad thing when they are helping them. If Bernie supporters and Bernie's campaign would bring a spotlight on it more people would start to understand the very real problem that the Russians are causing in our societies.

Sticking our head in the mud is not the right call, ignoring it will not make it go away.

If it was 2015, early 2016, I would have agreed with you, but we know better now. Everyone is under attack, down to our countries children, and if we don't start getting all Americans (and every other citizen of democracies) on the same page with what is happening it's only going to get worse.
 
DIY-HP-LED

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That could be a mistake on the part of the Russians, if he challenges Trump he will have a target on his back, but he is no friend of Russia, Bernie is a patriot, Trump is a traitor, it's that simple. National polls don't reflect the state by state vote, but this is the best we have to go by.
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BERNIE SANDERS LEADS DONALD TRUMP BY WIDEST MARGIN OF ALL 2020 CANDIDATES: ELECTION POLL
www.newsweek.com

Bernie Sanders Leads Trump by Widest Margin of Candidates: 2020 Poll

The poll asked voters to choose between President Donald Trump and each Democratic candidate as though the election was being held today.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
 
hanimmal

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DIY-HP-LED said:
That could be a mistake on the part of the Russians, if he challenges Trump he will have a target on his back, but he is no friend of Russia, Bernie is a patriot, Trump is a traitor, it's that simple. National polls don't reflect the state by state vote, but this is the best we have to go by.
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BERNIE SANDERS LEADS DONALD TRUMP BY WIDEST MARGIN OF ALL 2020 CANDIDATES: ELECTION POLL
www.newsweek.com

Bernie Sanders Leads Trump by Widest Margin of Candidates: 2020 Poll

The poll asked voters to choose between President Donald Trump and each Democratic candidate as though the election was being held today.
www.newsweek.com www.newsweek.com
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Only after the Russian created Trump perpetrated hit job on Joe Biden took over Trump's impeachment trial.

Edit: Which Bernie totally knew was going on to help his campaign while the Republicans were dragging Joe Biden through the mud with the propaganda Russia designed for Trump.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Bernie is making all the right noises, he's not publicly asking for Trump's email and he listened to and agreed with the briefing, he even said bad things about Vlad!
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Bernie Sanders: Briefed On Russian Attempts To Help Campaign 'A Month Ago' | MTP Daily | MSNBC

Bernie Sanders talks to reporters following reports that Russia is interfering in 2020 election to help his presidential campaign. Aired on 02/21/20.
 
hanimmal

hanimmal

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Bernie is making all the right noises, he's not publicly asking for Trump's email and he listened to and agreed with the briefing, he even said bad things about Vlad!
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Bernie Sanders: Briefed On Russian Attempts To Help Campaign 'A Month Ago' | MTP Daily | MSNBC

Bernie Sanders talks to reporters following reports that Russia is interfering in 2020 election to help his presidential campaign. Aired on 02/21/20.
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Defiantly saying what we should be able to expect from our elected leaders when they find out about the Russian military helping them get elected.

Unlike Gabbard and Trump doing the Russian spin 101 when they get asked about it. Pretty refreshing to see Bernie say what should be said.

Also just saw a video that Trump at his rally was spouting off about Bernie and the Russians, brought up the video of him in Moscow during his honeymoon. Which is important, because it meant that Trump knew about this and was ready to use whatever they have from it if he got Bernie in the general election.
 
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