Seed Junkie Genetics

uJhiteLiger

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Aight I understand. They’re 1k. can that much really be justified for 10 beans?
For someone maybe, for me, absolutely not. $100 for one seed is ridiculous. You could buy 2 packs from Strayfox with each seed that you buy from Cookies (Berner/Cookies owns Seed Junky and yes I know JB owns SJ but he’s basically Berner’s lapdog now just like Compound/Grandiflora/any other breeder that works with him). It’s not even stabilized by any means, it’s just a backcross. It’s up to the person buying it, but the price reflects their greed more than it does their work. Look at Meangene from Freeborn for example, he’ll sell worked lines F3+ ($200-500) for a higher price than he does with his crosses that aren’t as stabilized/tested. If I’m paying above $500 for a strain; it better be tested for AT LEAST 3 years, they better be able to tell me the exact lineage of ALL the parents used in the cross, and the “breeder” better be able to tell me exactly what phenotypes I can expect. Cookies will never do any of that, because they don’t give a shit about quality of their product and they don’t give a shit about the art of breeding. They only give a shit that people would be stupid enough to buy another strain they hyped up artificially by marketing. The bottom line is Jealousy isn’t as special as Cookie wants you to believe, and the next new cookies won’t be as special either, but that doesn’t meant that they can be great, just not $500+ a pack great. Not even $200 a pack great.
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Cavoszia

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For someone maybe, for me, absolutely not. $100 for one seed is ridiculous. You could buy 2 packs from Strayfox with each seed that you buy from Cookies (Berner/Cookies owns Seed Junky and yes I know JB owns SJ but he’s basically Berner’s lapdog now just like Compound/Grandiflora/any other breeder that works with him). It’s not even stabilized by any means, it’s just a backcross. It’s up to the person buying it, but the price reflects their greed more than it does their work. Look at Meangene from Freeborn for example, he’ll sell worked lines F3+ ($200-500) for a higher price than he does with his crosses that aren’t as stabilized/tested. If I’m paying above $500 for a strain; it better be tested for AT LEAST 3 years, they better be able to tell me the exact lineage of ALL the parents used in the cross, and the “breeder” better be able to tell me exactly what phenotypes I can expect. Cookies will never do any of that, because they don’t give a shit about quality of their product and they don’t give a shit about the art of breeding. They only give a shit that people would be stupid enough to buy another strain they hyped up artificially by marketing. The bottom line is Jealousy isn’t as special as Cookie wants you to believe, and the next new cookies won’t be as special either, but that doesn’t meant that they can be great, just not $500+ a pack great. Not even $200 a pack great.
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Appreciate the insight. Which breeders and strains do you recommend?
 

rmzrmz

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order/demand/hype
sales techniques does not mean quality
but seedjunky is one of the largest source of genetics for many other banks,
there are banks that rely almost 100% on copying seedjunky
personal opinion one of the best now ,

3 years ago before cookies collab the normal price seedjunky was $150
1-2 year ago with hype peak cookies collab+covid psychosis $500-1000
now neptune lowered their prices again, they must have the warehouse full ,$200-250 for 2019 stock and $300 for new
it's just a mental issue and seller tactics,

If you consider that it is a lot, do not pay it, look for another, it is full of good and bad copies everywhere
the same theme is already repetitive, turn the page
good smokes!
 
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timcervantes57

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I find a lot of people who suck at growing hate because they can’t grow his gear out to its fullest potential. For example there is a grower who messaged me on IG claiming he only got hermies from his pack of Wedding Cake x Gelato 33 (Ice Cream Cake) and while I did get a couple hermies from that pack myself, I find it hard to believe he got a full pack of “all balls and no pistils” as he put it. He claims when he messaged seed junky about it that he got blocked but when I messaged seed junky about the few herms I got he was very helpful and in fact we talk a lot on IG now. Any ways here is some Ice Cream Cake.
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Hey can you ask him what the linage of jelly z is ?
 

numberfour

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Wedding Cake f4 - daylight pics
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Nose and flavour is all vanilla cake, no lemon. Beautiful soaring high leading to a contented stone. Frosty and solid buds, my only complaint is she is quite a small plant, the other WCf4 I ran was twice the size. Crossed her this run but she didn't like the pollen, very few seeds.
 

Cavoszia

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For someone maybe, for me, absolutely not. $100 for one seed is ridiculous. You could buy 2 packs from Strayfox with each seed that you buy from Cookies (Berner/Cookies owns Seed Junky and yes I know JB owns SJ but he’s basically Berner’s lapdog now just like Compound/Grandiflora/any other breeder that works with him). It’s not even stabilized by any means, it’s just a backcross. It’s up to the person buying it, but the price reflects their greed more than it does their work. Look at Meangene from Freeborn for example, he’ll sell worked lines F3+ ($200-500) for a higher price than he does with his crosses that aren’t as stabilized/tested. If I’m paying above $500 for a strain; it better be tested for AT LEAST 3 years, they better be able to tell me the exact lineage of ALL the parents used in the cross, and the “breeder” better be able to tell me exactly what phenotypes I can expect. Cookies will never do any of that, because they don’t give a shit about quality of their product and they don’t give a shit about the art of breeding. They only give a shit that people would be stupid enough to buy another strain they hyped up artificially by marketing. The bottom line is Jealousy isn’t as special as Cookie wants you to believe, and the next new cookies won’t be as special either, but that doesn’t meant that they can be great, just not $500+ a pack great. Not even $200 a pack great.
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I wonder if the price is all the breeder’s doing or if the seed banks are doing massive markups?
 

Mrgoodbudz

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Dropped the 12 pack of Big Apple. 11/12 sprouted. 1 of them looks like it has 2 heads at the first node! I hope this mutant survives. Has anyone seen something like this before and what do you think?
 

Mrgoodbudz

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Dropped the 12 pack of Big Apple. 11/12 sprouted. 1 of them looks like it has 2 heads at the first node! I hope this mutant survives. Has anyone seen something like this before and what do you think?
 

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CRTFD

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Why not just buy the seeds from breeders that use the same cuts but charge 80% less?
not everybody can get the actual cuts, majority of breeders claim to have the real thing but don’t actually have the real thing. JB worked his animal mints for 5 years which was a huge hit esp here on the west coast, then he outbred from that and found more fire then put more work into those lines. There’s a difference, when you make your own and push that line it’s more your work than just slapping 2 cuts together and releasing them to the public. He did all the dirty work brining the best traits to the progeny so you have a better chance of finding fire through his packs.
 

numberfour

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My LA kush cakes seem to stall after tap root. Normally I jus put beans 1/4 inch below soil and no issues until now. Any advice would be helpful? Open to selling the remaining 8 too?
As mentioned soil looks over watered and compact for a seedling. Dig it out carefully, you may be able to repot into fresh, moist soil. If you pull and tap root is brown or damaged start again.
 

Cavoszia

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As mentioned soil looks over watered and compact for a seedling. Dig it out carefully, you may be able to repot into fresh, moist soil. If you pull and tap root is brown or damaged start again.
The seed packaging is from older style pack drop. Do beans have an unofficial expiration date on em? And banks should advertise on their sites if they are selling older packs.
 
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