Seed Predisposition

skunkushybrid

New Member
Here's some, in argument for predsiposition.:

This chapter is really in two sections. The first, which comprises the text itself, is a general statement of what is currently known with reasonable certainty about the origin and development, in the maturing individual, of the differences in both form and function between the two sexes. It is important to be aware of these facts because, as will be seen in due course, they have a direct bearing on the taking of Eve out of Adam. The subject also has a direct bearing on the Virgin Birth and the Incarnation. The other section which might have appeared as supporting footnotes were it not as extensive as the text itself (!), will be found in the form of expanded notes which have been relegated to the Reference Section. These scientific excursions are primarily intended for those who by background and training will wish to have a more detailed treatment of the evidence. These notes can be safely disregarded without any harm being done to the thread of the argument by those who do not desire to become involved in technical detail. The continuity of this study will not be seriously disturbed if they are simply ignored. The body of the text itself, however, has a very direct bearing on the creation of Eve out of Adam and is therefore quite essential to what follows later.When the female ovum is fertilized by the male, there is initiated an incredibly complex chain of events which culminate nine months later in the birth of a child. During the very early stages of this gestation period the development of the embryo is predisposed in certain directions by the possession of the sex chromosomes which are composed of two elements, one contributed by the mother and the other by the father. The mother can contribute only what is termed an X chromosome which predisposes towards the development of female structural, functional and temperamental characteristics, but the father can contribute either an X or a Y chromosome predisposing in the first instance to female, or in the second to male, structural and functional and temperamental characteristics. In short, the sex of the child to be born is initially governed by the chromosomal contribution of the father. All chromosomes are paired, and the Y is dominant over the X chromosome when combined with it. A child conceived will therefore be subject during development thereafter to a predisposition towards femaleness if receiving an X chromosome from the mother and an X chromosome from the father (XX), or towards maleness if receiving an X chromosome from the mother but a Y chromosome from the father (XY).
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
no it just goes on to prove that environmental stress COULD play a role and nobody can be sure who is right or wrong.

I am not talking about feminized seeds here and niether is skunk...we are talking about regular seeds. I dont where you saw me talking about femenized seeds.


skunk needs to stop commenting on the things you are saying to me because he ignored me and obviously cant read anything im saying.

i'm talking about everything. didn't someone post something about how to get MORE females? something about lighting cycles? i'm using femminized seeds as an example because they claim to be strictly female. is that even possible?
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Here's some, in argument for predsiposition.:

This chapter is really in two sections. The first, which comprises the text itself, is a general statement of what is currently known with reasonable certainty about the origin and development, in the maturing individual, of the differences in both form and function between the two sexes. It is important to be aware of these facts because, as will be seen in due course, they have a direct bearing on the taking of Eve out of Adam. The subject also has a direct bearing on the Virgin Birth and the Incarnation. The other section which might have appeared as supporting footnotes were it not as extensive as the text itself (!), will be found in the form of expanded notes which have been relegated to the Reference Section. These scientific excursions are primarily intended for those who by background and training will wish to have a more detailed treatment of the evidence. These notes can be safely disregarded without any harm being done to the thread of the argument by those who do not desire to become involved in technical detail. The continuity of this study will not be seriously disturbed if they are simply ignored. The body of the text itself, however, has a very direct bearing on the creation of Eve out of Adam and is therefore quite essential to what follows later.When the female ovum is fertilized by the male, there is initiated an incredibly complex chain of events which culminate nine months later in the birth of a child. During the very early stages of this gestation period the development of the embryo is predisposed in certain directions by the possession of the sex chromosomes which are composed of two elements, one contributed by the mother and the other by the father. The mother can contribute only what is termed an X chromosome which predisposes towards the development of female structural, functional and temperamental characteristics, but the father can contribute either an X or a Y chromosome predisposing in the first instance to female, or in the second to male, structural and functional and temperamental characteristics. In short, the sex of the child to be born is initially governed by the chromosomal contribution of the father. All chromosomes are paired, and the Y is dominant over the X chromosome when combined with it. A child conceived will therefore be subject during development thereafter to a predisposition towards femaleness if receiving an X chromosome from the mother and an X chromosome from the father (XX), or towards maleness if receiving an X chromosome from the mother but a Y chromosome from the father (XY).

that's what i was trying to say.:mrgreen:

the chromosomes are there from the start.
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
i'm talking about everything. didn't someone post something about how to get MORE females? something about lighting cycles? i'm using femminized seeds as an example because they claim to be strictly female. is that even possible?
Since we have no idea what is actually happening inside the plant at a genetic level that statement could go towards both theories.

Someone who believes in environmental stress could say that the reason your getting males and females from fem seeds is because of the environmental stress they endured.

Im sure true fem seeds could be developed but how can we trust that the seeds being marketed right now really are.

I still think this is a little off topic though.
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
Here's some, in argument for predsiposition.:

This chapter is really in two sections. The first, which comprises the text itself, is a general statement of what is currently known with reasonable certainty about the origin and development, in the maturing individual, of the differences in both form and function between the two sexes. It is important to be aware of these facts because, as will be seen in due course, they have a direct bearing on the taking of Eve out of Adam. The subject also has a direct bearing on the Virgin Birth and the Incarnation. The other section which might have appeared as supporting footnotes were it not as extensive as the text itself (!), will be found in the form of expanded notes which have been relegated to the Reference Section. These scientific excursions are primarily intended for those who by background and training will wish to have a more detailed treatment of the evidence. These notes can be safely disregarded without any harm being done to the thread of the argument by those who do not desire to become involved in technical detail. The continuity of this study will not be seriously disturbed if they are simply ignored. The body of the text itself, however, has a very direct bearing on the creation of Eve out of Adam and is therefore quite essential to what follows later.When the female ovum is fertilized by the male, there is initiated an incredibly complex chain of events which culminate nine months later in the birth of a child. During the very early stages of this gestation period the development of the embryo is predisposed in certain directions by the possession of the sex chromosomes which are composed of two elements, one contributed by the mother and the other by the father. The mother can contribute only what is termed an X chromosome which predisposes towards the development of female structural, functional and temperamental characteristics, but the father can contribute either an X or a Y chromosome predisposing in the first instance to female, or in the second to male, structural and functional and temperamental characteristics. In short, the sex of the child to be born is initially governed by the chromosomal contribution of the father. All chromosomes are paired, and the Y is dominant over the X chromosome when combined with it. A child conceived will therefore be subject during development thereafter to a predisposition towards femaleness if receiving an X chromosome from the mother and an X chromosome from the father (XX), or towards maleness if receiving an X chromosome from the mother but a Y chromosome from the father (XY).
Yes but you are talking about HUMANS...not plants.

We are 100% different from plants especially at a cellular and molecular level.

I really dont see what human biology has to do with botany.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
Since we have no idea what is actually happening inside the plant at a genetic level that statement could go towards both theories.

Someone who believes in environmental stress could say that the reason your getting males and females from fem seeds is because of the environmental stress they endured.

Im sure true fem seeds could be developed but how can we trust that the seeds being marketed right now really are.

I still think this is a little off topic though.
Yes but you are talking about HUMANS...not plants.

We are 100% different from plants especially at a cellular and molecular level.

I really dont see what human biology has to do with botany.

are you just here to shoot down our opinions? maybe you could run your own thread. :-| are you out of pot again?
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
that's what i was trying to say.:mrgreen:

the chromosomes are there from the start.


Yes, I've searched and searched for this evidence. Has he posted any yet? I found one site supporting his claim, yet another cut n paste marijuana site. Nothing tangible, just more of that mis-interpreted DP article.
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
are you just here to shoot down our opinions? maybe you could run your own thread. :-| are you out of pot again?
you cant possibly shoot down an opinion because it is not fact. So no im not here to shoot down opinions.....was this thread created for debate or not?

I am serious though human biology has nothing to do with botany....

I dont care if a humans sex is predetermined that has nothing to do with marijuana.

I dont know how many times I have to say its been proven scientifically that stressors during growth effect a plants sex....obviously it wasnt a marijuana plant but I would take that over research done on humans.

the information he found on humans has zero relevance.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
you cant possibly shoot down an opinion because it is not fact. So no im not here to shoot down opinions.....was this thread created for debate or not?

I am serious though human biology has nothing to do with botany....

I dont care if a humans sex is predetermined that has nothing to do with marijuana.

I dont know how many times I have to say its been proven scientifically that stressors during growth effect a plants sex....obviously it wasnt a marijuana plant but I would take that over research done on humans.

the information he found on humans has zero relevance.

humans have 2 chromosomes. as do plants X's and Y's. sex is sex. does "the birds and the bees" mean ANYTHING to you?


Let me tell you 'bout the birds and the bees
and the flowers and the trees
,
the moon up above, and the thing called love.

Let me tell you 'bout the stars in the sky,
the girl and the guy
and the way they could kiss
on a night like this.

When I look into your big brown eyes,
it's very plain to see
that it's time you learn about the facts in life
startin' from A to Z.
Let me tell you 'bout the birds...

(Solo)

When I look into your big brown eyes...

Well, let me tell you 'bout the birds and the bees...
Let me tell you 'bout the birds and the bees,
the flowers and the trees
,
the stars in the sky, a girl and a guy.
The birds and the bees,
the flowers and the trees,
the stars in the sky and a girl and a guy...
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
humans have 2 chromosomes. as do plants X's and Y's. sex is sex. does "the birds and the bees" mean ANYTHING to you?


Let me tell you 'bout the birds and the bees
and the flowers and the trees
,
the moon up above, and the thing called love.

Let me tell you 'bout the stars in the sky,
the girl and the guy
and the way they could kiss
on a night like this.

When I look into your big brown eyes,
it's very plain to see
that it's time you learn about the facts in life
startin' from A to Z.
Let me tell you 'bout the birds...

(Solo)

When I look into your big brown eyes...

Well, let me tell you 'bout the birds and the bees...
Let me tell you 'bout the birds and the bees,
the flowers and the trees
,
the stars in the sky, a girl and a guy.
The birds and the bees,
the flowers and the trees,
the stars in the sky and a girl and a guy...
ok so just because he is going to tell me about them doesnt mean they are that closely related.....hahahaha :peace::peace::blsmoke:
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
this is interesting......Sex-determination system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Non-genetic sex-determination systems

Main article: Temperature-dependent sex determination
Many other exotic sex-determination systems exist. In some species of reptiles, including alligators, some turtles, and the tuatara, sex is determined by the temperature at which the egg is incubated. Other species, such as some snails, practice sex change: adults start out male, then become female. In tropical clown fish, the dominant individual in a group becomes female while the other ones are male.
Some species have no sex-determination system. Earthworms and some snails are hermaphrodites; a few species of lizard, fish, and insect are all female and reproduce by parthenogenesis.
In some arthropods, sex is determined by infection, as when Bacteria of the genus OpenDNS alter their sexuality; some species consist entirely of ZZ individuals, with sex determined by the presence of Wolbachia.
Other unusual systems [this section still being researched]:
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
If you think that human genetics is relevant then consider this.

Lets say your genetic make-up predisposes you to have a weak immune system....is there nothing you can do to improve upon this or even worsen this?

Thats about as relevent as the info skunk found but actually goes to support my theory.
 

nowstopwhining

Too many brownies
this is interesting......Sex-determination system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Non-genetic sex-determination systems

Main article: Temperature-dependent sex determination
Many other exotic sex-determination systems exist. In some species of reptiles, including alligators, some turtles, and the tuatara, sex is determined by the temperature at which the egg is incubated. Other species, such as some snails, practice sex change: adults start out male, then become female. In tropical clown fish, the dominant individual in a group becomes female while the other ones are male.
Some species have no sex-determination system. Earthworms and some snails are hermaphrodites; a few species of lizard, fish, and insect are all female and reproduce by parthenogenesis.
In some arthropods, sex is determined by infection, as when Bacteria of the genus OpenDNS alter their sexuality; some species consist entirely of ZZ individuals, with sex determined by the presence of Wolbachia.
Other unusual systems [this section still being researched]:
thats very interesting, I actually think someone said this earlier but skunk blew him off.

Take the time to read this and show it to skunk as well

It is very relevent.....

Plant sex determination and sex chromosomes

Heres a quote " A minority of plant species are 'sexually polymorphic', including dioecious species, with separate males and females"
 

skunkushybrid

New Member
this is interesting......Sex-determination system - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


Non-genetic sex-determination systems

Main article: Temperature-dependent sex determination
Many other exotic sex-determination systems exist. In some species of reptiles, including alligators, some turtles, and the tuatara, sex is determined by the temperature at which the egg is incubated. Other species, such as some snails, practice sex change: adults start out male, then become female. In tropical clown fish, the dominant individual in a group becomes female while the other ones are male.
Some species have no sex-determination system. Earthworms and some snails are hermaphrodites; a few species of lizard, fish, and insect are all female and reproduce by parthenogenesis.
In some arthropods, sex is determined by infection, as when Bacteria of the genus OpenDNS alter their sexuality; some species consist entirely of ZZ individuals, with sex determined by the presence of Wolbachia.
Other unusual systems [this section still being researched]:


Yes, i've also been reading about some sex reversal studies done on hemp. they give you the first page, then you got to pay for the rest. I'll cut n paste it here.
 

fdd2blk

Well-Known Member
thats very interesting, I actually think someone said this earlier but skunk blew him off.

Take the time to read this and show it to skunk as well

It is very relevent.....

Plant sex determination and sex chromosomes

Heres a quote " A minority of plant species are 'sexually polymorphic', including dioecious species, with separate males and females"


here's another, from the same article.....

"....Sex inheritance and sex chromosomes in plants are strikingly similar to those in animals........"
 
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