Seeds on buds at bottom of the plant

Bukvičák

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There's also the possibility that your outdoor plants can get pollinated by someone else's male. A lot of indoor growers stick males outside so they can either get pollen, or else chop it up without the risk of pollinating their indoor plants. Add to that all the new growers from the spread of legalization, plus the pandemic, and there were a lot of males growing outdoors this year that didn't get chopped.
My plants got a light dusting of pollen this year, found a total of 60 seeds across 3 large plants, all in the ground. I'm testing them out and the first was a full male. I'm hoping it was someone's rec grow, not hemp or CBD.
There is a possibility but it depends where you live also, if its big town you are guaranteed hundreds of noobs growing males till the end and than smoke that shit... personaly know about 3 of them but you can do nothing about that. His plants was actually just hermed female polinated herself, he got seeds with quite a big chance of herm too if they gonna be exposed to the same situation, which caused herming to this plant. If he get seeds from other plant being polinated by this hermed plant, than seeds are all females without any sensitive response to herming, exept common sources causing this issue by growers fucked ups. Some strains are famous for their nannering in late flower but these nanners do not force calyxes to start producing seeds.
 

avillax

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Re read post #2

Your smoke will be fine.

Did you have fans going in the tent?
Thanks, could you tell me the difference on having balls vs nanners and how does that affect (fem seeds instead of herma)

as for where I grew it, I grew it outside in my balcony with beachfront, all of my plants, in a Mexican beach, narcos grow it in the mountains.
 

avillax

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There is a possibility but it depends where you live also, if its big town you are guaranteed hundreds of noobs growing males till the end and than smoke that shit... personaly know about 3 of them but you can do nothing about that. His plants was actually just hermed female polinated herself, he got seeds with quite a big chance of herm too if they gonna be exposed to the same situation, which caused herming to this plant. If he get seeds from other plant being polinated by this hermed plant, than seeds are all females without any sensitive response to herming, exept common sources causing this issue by growers fucked ups. Some strains are famous for their nannering in late flower but these nanners do not force calyxes to start producing seeds.
This is stich's love potion and it is an auto by flash seeds. Flash seeds have the reputation of creating exotic autos that are hard to germinate. Only 1 out of 8 germinated, BUT, I was doing some experiments with sound frequencies putting speakers on each side, after 2 weeks with this treatment, the plant seemed stunted as in completely frozen, then after 2 weeks it started growing again. The experiment might have stressed it. Anyways, can somebody explain the dif between balls vs nanners and how that affects potency and seeds? will they be hermies or fems? I got like 25 of them now and very tempted to sow them.
 

Budzbuddha

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Save them .... plants often throw survival tactics near end of life such as seeding itself. Rodelization .

It happens without the means of a male to keep lineage. Like a tree dropping seed pods. If plant did not hermie from the start - chances are those are self preservation seeds . Those i consider a win.
 

Jimbo the Gael

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Thats true no question. But he definitely had nanners
There is a possibility but it depends where you live also, if its big town you are guaranteed hundreds of noobs growing males till the end and than smoke that shit... personaly know about 3 of them but you can do nothing about that. His plants was actually just hermed female polinated herself, he got seeds with quite a big chance of herm too if they gonna be exposed to the same situation, which caused herming to this plant. If he get seeds from other plant being polinated by this hermed plant, than seeds are all females without any sensitive response to herming, exept common sources causing this issue by growers fucked ups. Some strains are famous for their nannering in late flower but these nanners do not force calyxes to start producing seeds.
Sorry, I should have been clear. I know his plant hermied and had nanners, my post was mostly for guys who find this thread on google, or later plants which don't hermie but still have seeds.
 

avillax

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Yeah they totally sound like rodelization cuz I swear I never saw the nanners until I found the seeds and looked at the picture above carefully, also they were covered by a big fan leaf but it just happened at the bottom.
 

Homegrown Hero

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You have very little to lose with a balcony grow. No price of lighting, power etc, just food and care. I would 100% grow the new seeds! I once got seeds from a plant I was growing. The buds were nothing like the parent, they were a light blue color and had way better structure.
 

Wizzlebiz

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@b
Hey bro, why do you think they will be viable fem seeds? By the way, originally the seeds were not feminized but autoflower regular.
@Budzbuddha hit it on the nose.

Hermie. Notice a male gland and pistils. The male gland has a stem.
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Nanners (what you have)
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Male glands that stick out of the bud. Look like bananas.

Self preservation is a reason. or stress can induce these.

Again these are viable female seeds as the pollen came from a female.

If the pollen comes from a hermied plant it will have hermied pollen.
 

avillax

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@b

@Budzbuddha hit it on the nose.

Hermie. Notice a male gland and pistils. The male gland has a stem.
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Nanners (what you have)
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Male glands that stick out of the bud. Look like bananas.

Self preservation is a reason. or stress can induce these.

Again these are viable female seeds as the pollen came from a female.

If the pollen comes from a hermied plant it will have hermied pollen.
Thank you so much. Can I make love to you with my Stitch's Love Potion?
 

Bukvičák

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Honestly need to say I am not a breeder and these things deep behind that are unknown for me. I have also some seed from outdoor autos, keep them for some kind of experiments to the future but never would give them a full trust to put them in the real run. I am “allowed” to grow only 5 plants so the cost for seeds are ridiculous risking losing the crop trying saving change money. You guys noticed rodelization as a nature princip applied in the grow. I do not know. Seeds takes at least 4 weeks (correct me if I am talking BSs), plant throw nanners in late flower and need that time for mature the seeds, problem is there is a hungry grower ready to cut it down. In the nature this is not happening, plant can live much longer and let the seeds mature. Thats how I understand this process, passing plants harvest window, when the plant know it by itself and there is not so many things which can be done... anyway every seed is precius, I have never thrown away a single piece.
 

Wizzlebiz

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Honestly need to say I am not a breeder and these things deep behind that are unknown for me. I have also some seed from outdoor autos, keep them for some kind of experiments to the future but never would give them a full trust to put them in the real run. I am “allowed” to grow only 5 plants so the cost for seeds are ridiculous risking losing the crop trying saving change money. You guys noticed rodelization as a nature princip applied in the grow. I do not know. Seeds takes at least 4 weeks (correct me if I am talking BSs), plant throw nanners in late flower and need that time for mature the seeds, problem is there is a hungry grower ready to cut it down. In the nature this is not happening, plant can live much longer and let the seeds mature. Thats how I understand this process, passing plants harvest window, when the plant know it by itself and there is not so many things which can be done... anyway every seed is precius, I have never thrown away a single piece.
I've had plants throw nanners early in flower due to heat stress.

112 degree weeks fuck up plants.

But yes a minimum of 4 weeks for maturity.

So I see your point.
 

avillax

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Something tells me the seeds are 4 weeks old but if not, I left a few popcorn buds to mature: most likely they have seeds. Can you know if they are viable by looking at them? Pic attached.
 

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Bukvičák

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I've had plants throw nanners early in flower due to heat stress.

112 degree weeks fuck up plants.

But yes a minimum of 4 weeks for maturity.

So I see your point.
I have hermed 3 times due my fuck ups so know what youre talking about. Last grow, one plant that threw out nanners was root bounded (late solo transplant), found and plucked 2/3 nanners occured in week 4 of flower, than another 2 appeared in week 9 so it was harvested sooner. But it has fucked up the quality of all of the plants around despite no matured seed found in any one of them. Calyxes got polinated so the pistils did not curl in and receed even they were matured. They are good and smokable but they were suspected to be killers and turned out just mid grade. I do not like hermies at all!!!
 

Jimbo the Gael

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Something tells me the seeds are 4 weeks old but if not, I left a few popcorn buds to mature: most likely they have seeds. Can you know if they are viable by looking at them? Pic attached.
No way to be 100% sure, but they look just fine to me. Just give them a month to dry out, or put them in the fridge for a couple of weeks before you try to pop them. I've found seeds straight from the plant can pop, but you'll get a higher germ rate if you wait. At least with the seeds I've had.
 
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