Seen many posts flaming Advanced Nutrients.Anyone had good or better than good result

Pure

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Sup Dudes,
I'm back and with some time to update everyone on the fucking noob ass idiot fucking mistakes I made. First an update on my plants. Fat Boy & Little Man.

I had 2 pushes same strain "shining Silver Haze". Both had the same germination period and vegetative periods. Same conditions, same nutes @ the same strengths! (Sensi A+B Grow + Root juice + B52). Then I went to Flowering on 05-Oct. using : (Sensi A+B Bloom + Root Juice + B52, Bud Candy + Big Bud at their respective times @ a 70% of the AN calculator recommended dosages...)
All of my problems started with my Res change of 16-Oct. On the 16th I started running the nutes at 100% of the suggested amounts as per the AN calculator.
It was a decline so fast i had so little of a chance to diagnose it before the plant have given in. -->The Grow II (17a).jpgDSC03267.jpg

I reacted pretty quickly with a 2 day clear water flush , hydrogen peroxide,.... but she practically was broken down to little of nothing. Some mates and some in this thread suggested she was dead. --> DSC03274.jpg

But I keep the res active and continued changing the nutes out? This is how Fat Girl looked immediately after the fallout, this was about 2 days after I noticed signs, i'd already began the flush!!The Grow II (37).jpg The Grow II (30).jpg

And now she has new growth and new roots growing! So now she is back on the vegging nutes at 70%, sitting in a separate little area normally to be used for clones.--> The Grow II (24).jpg

Today!! She's coming back, I'll throw her into flowering after the roots are better established --->
The Grow II (7).jpgThe Grow II (10).jpgThe Grow II (8).jpg
So now here are the errors i made!

First off I was trying to adjust Sensi Grow and Sensi Bloom pH.
--> I've notice that my normal tap pH is 7.6, when i add my nutes the pH is dropped down to a consistent 6.5! This si great except I've always adjusted the pH of the clear water to 5.6 prior to adding the nutes, then adjusted again after!!!

Now this was bad enough since it left me with daily inconsistent readings. And pH balancing trips 4 to 5 times a day! :( So in parallel to that issue the pH tester that I purchased was not calibrated so my readings were off my readings in the res were 7.x and the actual pH would be 2 points lower.. :(:(

Along with that i ran two res's with 2 different nute mixes
FNP= Full Nute Pak -- (Sensi A+B Bloom + Root Juice + B52, Bud Candy + Big Bud)
BNP= Basic Nute Pak -- (Everything except Big Bud!!)

I may have miscalculated a Big Bud dosage twice also..

So now the res that only had FNP is now on FNP @ 70% recommended dosage. I'm not adjusting the pH. She's growing great.

In order to help her out I added my 400w HiD. I figured she had enough stress already I'll test and run comparisons on the next push. Since my harvest will be cut in half I need to ensure maximum yield from here forward. No better way than to light up with a 400w HiD eh? :)
The Grow II (13).jpgThe Grow II (15).jpgThe Grow II (22).jpgThe Grow II (10).jpgThe Grow II (17).jpgThe Grow II (21).jpg
So in retrospect Advanced Nutrients did pretty well in keeping the plants alive throughout my "pH down attack!!" all the way up until either:

1. I bumped up the Res mix to 100%
OR
2. I overdosed the plant on Big Bud


So now let's see what these nutes can get these girls to grant me in terms of BUDS!!!!:leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf::leaf:
:peace:
Ciao,
Pure...
 

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Phillip J Fry

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i just started my journal using AN expert lvl. I only run the nutes at 1/4-1/3 the suggested ppm. I burnt my plants a few times trying to push them higher. I have nothing to compare my grow to since its the first time, but think they look pretty good so far.

Also i dont really ever have to ph the water when its changed on a regular basis,so this leads me to believe what was already said about buffers only lasting so long.

A link to my journal is below if you want to see the pics so far.
 

Pure

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Sup Dudes,

This push finally came to an end and the results are actually pretty surprising! If you remember my thread back in Oct November I ran into an issue. almost lost both plants. One actually never really recovered she just hung around at the same size but growing small buds.....The other is 2/3rds through harvest now. And so far I've harvested 139.3 g or (6.82 Oz)(Dry Weight). Along with another 132.x grams of shake, real ripe for some "Honey Oil". Which I'll be extracting today!! :D I've got to say that i had a very aggressive feeding schedule. And i only had to replace My base Nutes towards the end of Flowering but don't forget I've been flowering since Oct.!!!!! And I had to do it in order to let the plant mature. I still have a bunch of small undergrowth buds to harvest. I'll get to drying those and weighing them before next weekend. I'm going to experiment and see if the plant can't hang on and bring those younger buds to maturity while probably going through shock!! As for the pricing. Here where i am the pricing isn't so much that I'm gonna complain. i mean the Sensi A&B together cost 13€. Then i ran Big bud - B-52 - Bud Candy. In the Veg stage and early Flowering weeks i still used VooDoo Juice And that is it. no pH issues no excessive salts build up.

Seemed cool as long as you don't make mixing mistake and I'm almost positive that's what I did...
I already posted a bunch of pics on my thread so I'll just post 1 new shot here.


The Results II (19).jpg
:peace:
Pure...
 

dangledo

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Sup Dudes,

This push finally came to an end and the results are actually pretty surprising! If you remember my thread back in Oct November I ran into an issue. almost lost both plants. One actually never really recovered she just hung around at the same size but growing small buds.....The other is 2/3rds through harvest now. And so far I've harvested 139.3 g or (6.82 Oz)(Dry Weight). Along with another 132.x grams of shake, real ripe for some "Honey Oil". Which I'll be extracting today!! :D I've got to say that i had a very aggressive feeding schedule. And i only had to replace My base Nutes towards the end of Flowering but don't forget I've been flowering since Oct.!!!!! And I had to do it in order to let the plant mature. I still have a bunch of small undergrowth buds to harvest. I'll get to drying those and weighing them before next weekend. I'm going to experiment and see if the plant can't hang on and bring those younger buds to maturity while probably going through shock!! As for the pricing. Here where i am the pricing isn't so much that I'm gonna complain. i mean the Sensi A&B together cost 13€. Then i ran Big bud - B-52 - Bud Candy. In the Veg stage and early Flowering weeks i still used VooDoo Juice And that is it. no pH issues no excessive salts build up.

Seemed cool as long as you don't make mixing mistake and I'm almost positive that's what I did...
I already posted a bunch of pics on my thread so I'll just post 1 new shot here.


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:peace:
Pure...
Did you mix the nutes first before adding to the resi? I have seen what your plants look like before. And adding the concentrates together is what my buddy ended up doing to make them grow that way. It causes nute lockout.
 

Pure

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Did you mix the nutes first before adding to the resi? I have seen what your plants look like before. And adding the concentrates together is what my buddy ended up doing to make them grow that way. It causes nute lockout.
Hey Dangledo,

No I put them straight into the reservoir.. I'm sure it was a simple "HIGH" mistake once or twice... :)

:peace:
Pure...
 

dangledo

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Hey Dangledo,

No I put them straight into the reservoir.. I'm sure it was a simple "HIGH" mistake once or twice... :)

:peace:
Pure...
well congrats on the harvest anyway. Im in my first week of first dwc. Everything is staying right in check so I am excited to see what I can do. Trying to keep it simple first time around, just a base nute. Think I am gonna hunt down a good dwc thead, seeing you are a bubble head, any particular thread youd suggest? Thanks.:leaf:
 
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