Should the US shed blood for Ukraine

Should the USA along with NATO defend Ukraine with troops.

  • Yes

    Votes: 40 40.4%

  • No

    Votes: 59 59.6%
  • Total voters
    99
Roger A. Shrubber

Roger A. Shrubber

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djumbir said:
Croatia, place of the most beautiful islands in the world :D a sovereign country on paper, not so much in reality.
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another country invaded by an evil dictator that should have been dealt with years ago...the reality is it is still a sovereign nation, under occupation by an enemy force...putin being a thieving fuckface dictator with delusions of grandeur doesn't change any facts, anywhere...it just makes him a bigger fucking criminal
 
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djumbir

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
omfg what a fucking narcissist...the universe rotates around donald trump...because that much bullshit packed into that small a space is the densest matter in the entire multiverse....
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There's a bit of truth here, imagine Trump won, he's good with Putin, he would've ignored Ukraine efforts to come closer to NATO and Russia wouldn't have a reason for attack
 
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djumbir

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Roger A. Shrubber said:
another country invaded by an evil dictator that should have been dealt with years ago...the reality is it is still a sovereign nation, under occupation by an enemy force...putin being a thieving fuckface dictator with delusions of grandeur doesn't change any facts, anywhere...it just makes him a bigger fucking criminal
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We were never invaded, there was a civil war which we won (thankful for our allies). But invasion, not really
 
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djumbir

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As long as you think that your country's actions are right and the other main opposing country's are wrong, and in your posts I only see such black&white views, there's something wrong. A bias, susceptibility to propaganda, you name it
 
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djumbir

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cannabineer said:
Can you be specific? These are useless generalities.
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Let me give you an example,

what is your stance on US invasion on Syria and not recognize otherwise internationally recognized ruler of the country, while at the same time supporting ISIS backed rebels?

If you dissociate from it, I'll eat my words.

Please, don't request any links :D
 
cannabineer

cannabineer

Ursus marijanus
djumbir said:
Let me give you an example,

what is your stance on US invasion on Syria and not recognize otherwise internationally recognized ruler of the country, while at the same time supporting ISIS backed rebels?

If you dissociate from it, I'll eat my words.
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My stance on that is that, if correct (haven’t followed this one), it sucks. We did a hopeless job against the Taliban as well. Even so I’m glad our guy left that field of tears, even if his execution was not good.

But this is not about answering a question with a question, which is bad form on your part.

Your “if your country is right and the other is wrong” is a straw man. Your debate hygiene is possibly too poor for meaningful discourse. Only trolls refuse to commit by withholding their sources.
 
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djumbir

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cannabineer said:
My stance on that is that, if correct (haven’t followed this one), it sucks. We did a hopeless job against the Taliban as well. Even so I’m glad our guy left that field of tears, even if his execution was not good.

But this is not about answering a question with a question, which is bad form on your part.

Your “if your country is right and the other is wrong” is a straw man. Your debate hygiene is possibly too poor for meaningful discourse. Only trolls refuse to commit by withholding their sources.
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I'm not answering with a question, straw man my ass. Don't expect me to educate you on the matter, I think my answer is pretty much straight forward. America attacked a sovereign country. Exactly what Russia is doing now. Punto!
 
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schuylaar

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Zellmet said:
If that orange, mentally retarded criminal hadn't been allowed anywhere near the WH, in the first place, Putin would never have attacked Ukraine.

Herr Drumpf is wholly to blame for all of this fucking shit...
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And if only Hillary didn't rely on 'its her turn' and campaigned more..not voting has consequences.
 
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