Show me your roots

dochickory

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Doc, HRs website has a page on concentrations using gram weights, but for some dilutions, you need a gram scale that reads in hundredth's of a gram, which I do not have.
You are right on, my scale from food kitchen only reads 100/g for first g then whole grams, anywayy I went clear down to 2.5g/gal , with the nute overdose symptoms, which is 1.5/gal less than HR recommended dosage for week 5 of flower in the DWC feeding schedule. Thanks again for your knowlegeable help, I am going to find out how to rep you if I can.
 

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dochickory

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Sorry about the led lighting for the last pic. For any of you who follow my half ass journal, I have been all worried about the roots growing up and on the nozzles and was busy cutting them off. Well I don't see a real problem here, the roots are beautiful for her age, but different, and maybe cutting them away from the nozzles helped IDK. I'm dying to see what this root structure looks like, that she builds back every time I sliced off or ripped out a piece[sorry PetFlora] anyway there are the roots and they love drinking close to the fountain and somehow dispersing the nutrients solution, that is happening at 3 mist nozzles then the clusters that are fitted to the nozzles are and have been converged in the center where they grew from. Quite a beautiful piece of work! Want to see the center and more. There must be roots down that went through the filter net

The drip has a better and cleaner scent than when it goes in, so I don't expect any root rot. Just a matter of weeks now anyway.
 

dochickory

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So I thought I would throw these up here.......the roots turned out really interesting, I can' t really train them switching to Siri now the roots after the first cutting lengthwise continued to shoot out in a fishbone manner and form many small hair roots I attribute that to the fine mist and they actually grow up where they envelope the nozzles. I have all kinds of pictures throughout this grow, but I've been lousy keeping up my half ass journal on a regular basis sorry for that. Anyway we'll see what happens.
 

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unlearnyourself

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**please help**

saddens me to post this, but when changing over the water in my reservoir in an ebb and flow system I accidentally forgot to plug the pump back in. my precious ladies that had been thriving so well were without water for nearly 2 days. as soon as I realized this I turned the pump on and flushed the root zone, filled it up entirely, submersing most of the pot full of a clay pellet medium, then let it drain. About a 15min process. About 30min later I popped it back on again just to saturate the roots once more quickly without filling it up all the way again, then let it drain. I then got the timer going again, giving 15min every 4 hrs.

here's the best picture I could come up with, taken about 30min after my 2nd watering. The question is have I made a fatal mistake here? fans and leaves are looking a bit soft and droopy, but looked fantastic just yesterday, one day into the two day dry spell. I've got about 1-2 more weeks of nutes in flowering, then 1-2 weeks flush before harvest, so I'm pretty far along and am nervous here. Is there anything further I can do? Any help is much appreciated.

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dochickory

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No experience with Ebb&flow or DWC, but I do know you better keep an eye on the roots and look for new white shoots, the browned out black roots are dead dying soon rotting so I'd try and clean em up and maybe carefully foliar feed your plant a little and observe.

It comes down to your priorities really, your plant should be considered CRITICAL in the ER now is NOT the time to over correct and cause another issue, ph right now is critical, ventilation, light and temperature as we'll if your capable of dialing these things in now is the time, good luck!
 

unlearnyourself

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No experience with Ebb&flow or DWC, but I do know you better keep an eye on the roots and look for new white shoots, the browned out black roots are dead dying soon rotting so I'd try and clean em up and maybe carefully foliar feed your plant a little and observe.

It comes down to your priorities really, your plant should be considered CRITICAL in the ER now is NOT the time to over correct and cause another issue, ph right now is critical, ventilation, light and temperature as we'll if your capable of dialing these things in now is the time, good luck!

All other elements are pretty spot on, other than humidity being a bit low, likely as a result of that water not flowing for 2 days.

Happy to report that the sagging fans have picked themselves back up for the most part, though still a little ways to go before looking totally strong again. The roots are whitening back up, and it doesn't appear than any of them completely died off, though the real fine hairs on the roots are not as plentiful as before this mistake.

I'm still monitoring everything, but I'm beginning to think I dodged a bullet here, at least in terms of the error not killing this cycle. There's no way for me to know what the final impact will be when all is said and done, but I think they're well on their way to a full recovery and getting back on track for the final few weeks.
 

dochickory

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Consider yourself lucky, and learn from it, maybe small green LED system on indicator light by the exit door. At least it wasn't longer, they're weeds anyway hard to kill really! LOL :weed:
 

dochickory

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those are some very nice roots, . i have a feeling your gonna want to upgrade to a bigger container, ASAP, are they in 5 gallon buckets?
Fast on replying yes, those are 5 gallon buckets, my space confines me really bad. This picture is a still of a video inside one of the root chambers, using a endoscopic camera, it’s really nice to be able to see how the nozzles are working. I reall like seeing the fine mist collect on the fine hair roots, watching as it gets absorbed. I couldn’t post the short clip, which shows the mist as the system cycles, cool stuff!
 

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dochickory

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Wow, I have a bucket system I built and have been trying to come up with a root containment method and omg looking at your photos in this thread solved it I think. I just need a mesh bag that is basically the diameter of a 5 gal bucket. What are those bags you have? Are they just mesh bags for something else that you are using for this or is that like a specific product? Damn that is so good and easy and just what I need. I am so happy you posted in here again, because before I got to page 4 I was already considering DM'ing you asking about your bags, lololololol.
Hey, they are just 5 gallon paint bucket filters for using airless sprayer……
 
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