Rollingstoney
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I'm going tryout jacks 321 full grow cycle an wanna see if they are any good. Show some picture of your guys grow using jack 321
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ktmracer51
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Works wonderfully for many people. Follow them on insta. Can also use the jacks321 hashtag on insta and get plenty of pics and links to grows.
Rollingstoney
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Thanks. I wonder if jacks has too high in N for flower stage
2klude
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So lower the Nitrogen then....
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ktmracer51
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Crap pic from a couple days ago. Day 24
GBAUTO
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A Primal Punch tester I just finished in my pheno tent.
Coco/DTW/Jacks 3-2-1/Tribus
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This was last week-ish. They are flushing now.
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farmerjoe420
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Only thing I don’t like is not being able to add more calcium without nitrogen. Next run I’ll be switching out the calcium nitrate with a different brand cal nit that has a higher calcium to nitrogen ratio. I’ll also be using a additional calcium supplement for some of the strains that need loads of calcium. I think with these 2 products I’ll be able to perfectly dial in what I’m trying to do
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farmerjoe420
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All in all it’s a great product and I don’t think you can get a better quality for the price. It costs about 4 cents per gallon LOL.
I’m almost week 7 now and most of the plants in my room like it
I’m almost week 7 now and most of the plants in my room like it
Are you lowering ec by week 7? I know some guys that run 3.6 2.5 all the way till harvest. I tried it but the n tox is really noticeable
farmerjoe420
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I fed full strength up until the last two weeks of flower with good results.
farmerjoe420
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I think the strength may need be adjusted if you aren’t running really powerful lights. In my flower room I’m running multiple DE lights so they seemed to consume everything I was giving them. If I was in a tent with lower wattage lights , I’d probably back off to 321 exactly and see how that did.
I'm also using des. Just working on dialing in the end of the cycle
farmerjoe420
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It could be strain dependent but there’s no denying that you don’t need that much N towards the end of flower IMO. That’s the only thing I don’t like. I think switching to a low N calcium product towards the end could maybe be a good way to get the results we are after.
Im still playing around with it myself and wish I had better answers. I’m currently debating on how to proceed next. I’m considering using jacks through week 3 or 4 of flower and then switching to a fully organic product but I know that may not be the answer for everyone.
UpstateRecGrower
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That's why I like just mixing my own, I can get plenty of calcium from only using calcium nitrate as my nitrogen source..
I'm looking into the exact same thing. Trying to find a way, or the right product, to be able to reduce calcium nitrate (yara calcinit), but add back the calcium lost in doing so - and without adding anything else undesirable (chlorine etc.)
Have you considered the other calcium forms and found them to be no good (for various reasons, eg: not water soluble or no good for anything other than soil type medium, useless or harmful secondary element)?
Eg: Calcium sulfate (gypsum, right?), calcium chloride (used as road salt, I think), etc. Kelp4Less have a calcium sulfate they say is soluble...I don't know about that.
I was thinking about Calcium Peroxide though, CaO2 I think.
I also settled on Potassium Sulfate as a means of adding additional Potassium with no drawbacks. The sulfur is beneficial, and from what I can find, it's hard to get a sulfur toxicity - with this particular crop at least.
Thanks for those link, too. The Haifa Cal Prime; so it's 33% CaO, and 23% Ca, yet 17% N.
Is that much better than typical CalNit at 19% Ca, and 15.5% N?