Shrooms or Acid?

Tenner · May 13, 2011

I can understand the fact "your not supposed to be in control", But hold on a minute, what if it shifts the wrong gears and you start feeling bad... I guess good friends can help, but why the risk? Sounds like gambling for the greater good or the greater bad to me.

However safe a chemical LSD is, that doesn`t mean its safe as orange juice. Its effects on the mind are the deal, not neurotoxicity or anything.

I say first of all master the trip, understand the ways you can guide it and the way it can change. Its better to see something that upsets you on a low dose, realise your thinking bad and distract yourself with something other than have this happen on a strong trip.

If you have the cash buy 2-4 blotters. If your very cautious start off with .5 and if your confident go on with a whole. Maybe get as much information as you can about the blotter and search it on the web too, can sometimes find the amounts.

And do give it 2 hours before you decide to take more

I must be too careful for some people on this website but thats just me...

shmow52 · May 13, 2011

DarthD3vl said:
die from an overdose of shrooms? not gonna happen, i doubt there is a person on this site that could ingest enough shrooms to die, they kick in before you can eat a half ounce dried...

only takes a minute or two to eat that many.

Tenner · May 13, 2011

shmow52 said:
only takes a minute or two to eat that many.

Yeah if the cops are knocking on the door

DarthD3vl · May 13, 2011

shmow52 said:
only takes a minute or two to eat that many.

maybe wet, but you chew down half ounce of dried mushrooms in two minutes and your stomach will hurt like a mother fucker. I know. i've thrown up solid mushrooms from literally eating till i was so full I puked, just dont see any way to over dose on them. you would have to literally be trying to kill yourself.

NolingNrolling · May 13, 2011

Ku$hc0Wb0Y said:
acid is WAYYYYY stronger and intense as fuck and lasts way longer then shrooms but shrooms i love its more of a natural high and trip but if your looking for a strong body buzz and alot of visuals acid is the way to go for sure

I knocked on Lucy's door twice my first day with her and then went to Mary Jane's. It was an ok trip, nothing special. Two grams of shrooms with Mary Jane riding shotgun made me near blind with visuals. I guess the true question we should ask OP is why is he doing acid or shrooms in the first place?

shmow52 · May 13, 2011

DarthD3vl said:
maybe wet, but you chew down half ounce of dried mushrooms in two minutes and your stomach will hurt like a mother fucker. I know. i've thrown up solid mushrooms from literally eating till i was so full I puked, just dont see any way to over dose on them. you would have to literally be trying to kill yourself.

ive seend my friend eat 11g in 30 seconds.

true iron gut. i turned around, and was like "fuck!! you ate all those already!"

Tenner · May 13, 2011

NolingNrolling said:
I guess the true question we should ask OP is why is he doing acid or shrooms in the first place?

I think a lot of ganja smokers just want a different high when they consult psychedelics. A small dose never fucks anyone up so the OP should totally go for it!

However, let confidence adjust dose, not ego

I used to do a lot of ego drinking (like you do) and occasionally show my iron lungs off to a few newbs

Makes me laugh when I think about it, look at me wooo!!

canndo · May 13, 2011

Tenner said:
I can understand the fact "your not supposed to be in control", But hold on a minute, what if it shifts the wrong gears and you start feeling bad... I guess good friends can help, but why the risk? Sounds like gambling for the greater good or the greater bad to me.

However safe a chemical LSD is, that doesn`t mean its safe as orange juice. Its effects on the mind are the deal, not neurotoxicity or anything.

I say first of all master the trip, understand the ways you can guide it and the way it can change. Its better to see something that upsets you on a low dose, realise your thinking bad and distract yourself with something other than have this happen on a strong trip.

If you have the cash buy 2-4 blotters. If your very cautious start off with .5 and if your confident go on with a whole. Maybe get as much information as you can about the blotter and search it on the web too, can sometimes find the amounts.

And do give it 2 hours before you decide to take more

I must be too careful for some people on this website but thats just me...

I think it is a question of faith in the universe. We have faith that while we are "away", we will continue to breathe, our hearts will continue to beat. We cast ourselves away, beyond "control" in order to affirm that faith. What we learn by surrendering control is worth the risk. In fact, I was once in a conversation with a man while driving at high speed one early spring day in Minnesota. I said that control was an illusion, he said it was not. At that instant a car swerved into our lane (there was later to be found, black paint on he right front bumper, the car actually kissed us).

My friend who was driving tried to correct and struggled to keep us straight but finally we spun several times (we could see the tire marks and saw bits of black tire raining down on us). We survived, the driver of the car behind us did not. Control is an illusion, as he came to find out for himself.

Tenner · May 13, 2011

canndo said:
I think it is a question of faith in the universe. We have faith that while we are "away", we will continue to breathe, our hearts will continue to beat. We cast ourselves away, beyond "control" in order to affirm that faith. What we learn by surrendering control is worth the risk. In fact, I was once in a conversation with a man while driving at high speed one early spring day in Minnesota. I said that control was an illusion, he said it was not. At that instant a car swerved into our lane (there was later to be found, black paint on he right front bumper, the car actually kissed us).

My friend who was driving tried to correct and struggled to keep us straight but finally we spun several times (we could see the tire marks and saw bits of black tire raining down on us). We survived, the driver of the car behind us did not. Control is an illusion, as he came to find out for himself.

I do agree that its an illusion, but depends what you mean by it.

Though I`d like to say, full control is an illusion, nobody is in full control but things can be manipulated to a certain degree...

I have a friend who is a tripper, he seems to belive in what you have just said too much. Like I told him he shouldn`t really use his skateboard on the pavement by the main road and a week later it went under a bus. Theres a fine line somewhere, everyone draws their own.

I guess at the end of the day its up to the OP!

But I do understand having faith works wonders to block any bad trips, actually I`m beliving that one more every passing day

In fact, my belief in faith started when someone on this forum said "you already have faith in your senses", thanks dude but just can`t remember who you are

Oh, and that was sure an interesting story! Glad you survived too!

canndo · May 13, 2011

DarthD3vl said:
maybe wet, but you chew down half ounce of dried mushrooms in two minutes and your stomach will hurt like a mother fucker. I know. i've thrown up solid mushrooms from literally eating till i was so full I puked, just dont see any way to over dose on them. you would have to literally be trying to kill yourself.

The estimated LD50 for psilcybin in rats is 280 mg per kg. It is likely that we are about the same but make it 140 mg/kg ok? So a 100 kg human will need 14 grams to be 50 percent sure of dying. Figure 1 gram of psilocybin per 100 grams of mushrooms. If you can eat 1400 grams of mushrooms you have a 50 percent chance of dying. I doubt you can eat 1.4 kg of mushrooms.

canndo · May 13, 2011

Tenner said:
I do agree that its an illusion, but depends what you mean by it.

Though I`d like to say, full control is an illusion, nobody is in full control but things can be manipulated to a certain degree...

I have a friend who is a tripper, he seems to belive in what you have just said too much. Like I told him he shouldn`t really use his skateboard on the pavement by the main road and a week later it went under a bus. Theres a fine line somewhere, everyone draws their own.

I guess at the end of the day its up to the OP!

But I do understand having faith works wonders to block any bad trips, actually I`m beliving that one more every passing day

In fact, my belief in faith started when someone on this forum said "you already have faith in your senses", thanks dude but just can`t remember who you are

Oh, and that was sure an interesting story! Glad you survived too!

I most certainly believe that we have... influence. . over all things but this drug and your mind within it will do as it will do, sometimes you can influence it, sometimes you cannot and I have found that reverence and humility in the face of such power applies about the only influence that is ever effective. And thank you for being glad I survived. To this day I flinch when seeing black tires stray toward white lines on the freeway, a small price to pay.

Skuxx · May 13, 2011

Ku$hc0Wb0Y said:
acid is WAYYYYY stronger and intense as fuck and lasts way longer then shrooms but shrooms i love its more of a natural high and trip but if your looking for a strong body buzz and alot of visuals acid is the way to go for sure

You didn't eat enough shrooms then. I have had way more intense visuals/body trip from shrooms. BY FAR. You get nice tracers and stuff from acid, and see things morph etc (i've never done more than 800ug).... but on shrooms, I've seen things similar to a DMT trip on heroic doses.. You see stuff that literally just isn't there. On acid, you can look at a tree, and perhaps it will look like something else, but on mush, you will see shit out of thin air much more. The downside is the confusion, and nausea. On acid, you feel ALIVE and energetic, and want to explore the world.

I don't know.... It just seems like your comparison is like the exact opposite from most peoples. The only thing you got right is that acid lasts longer.

PS: If you've never done either, don't do them just for the visuals. There is A LOT more to the experience than just seeing stuff. It changes your consciousness and perception. It can be very frightening if you don't know what you are getting into.

canndo · May 13, 2011

Skuxx said:
You didn't eat enough shrooms then. I have had way more intense visuals/body trip from shrooms. BY FAR. You get nice tracers and stuff from acid, and see things morph etc (i've never done more than 800ug).... but on shrooms, I've seen things similar to a DMT trip on heroic doses.. You see stuff that literally just isn't there. On acid, you can look at a tree, and perhaps it will look like something else, but on mush, you will see shit out of thin air much more. The downside is the confusion, and nausea. On acid, you feel ALIVE and energetic, and want to explore the world.

I don't know.... It just seems like your comparison is like the exact opposite from most peoples. The only thing you got right is that acid lasts longer.

PS: If you've never done either, don't do them just for the visuals. There is A LOT more to the experience than just seeing stuff. It changes your consciousness and perception. It can be very frightening if you don't know what you are getting into.

Wow, at 700 mics I pretty much quit seeing anything with my eyes anyway. Everyone gets a different effect though and I can see how he might have a different distinction than you. I never get that confusion on shrooms but only recently have gotten the same clarity that I always got on the other stuff.

Tenner · May 13, 2011

Feeling like the right moment to ask a question,

On Lucy, this dose seemed slightly higher than the norm last time. There was a distinct "blur" to what I was seeing. A blur not like a normal one, but a little more colourful type thing. Is that the very beginnings of having so hard visuals you can`t see or was it just my contacts drying up?

NolingNrolling · May 13, 2011

Tenner said:
I think a lot of ganja smokers just want a different high when they consult psychedelics. A small dose never fucks anyone up so the OP should totally go for it!

However, let confidence adjust dose, not ego

I used to do a lot of ego drinking (like you do) and occasionally show my iron lungs off to a few newbs

Makes me laugh when I think about it, look at me wooo!!

Too much ego drinking is the reason I don't drink more than a beer, a shot, or a glass at a time now... and I didn't even drink for a year.

But confidence in yourself is the way to go with psychs.

Skuxx · May 13, 2011

Tenner said:
Feeling like the right moment to ask a question,

On Lucy, this dose seemed slightly higher than the norm last time. There was a distinct "blur" to what I was seeing. A blur not like a normal one, but a little more colourful type thing. Is that the very beginnings of having so hard visuals you can`t see or was it just my contacts drying up?

I think I know what you mean. Does it sort of look like you are underwater??? The colors are usually coming from other things, and you can notice them floating in the air, and reflecting off everything (might look cooler with contacts. never worn any). I'd say yeah, that was the beginning to having more intense visuals. You were probably at the mild tracer/morph stage. I've never been able to not see on lucy. Not sure what that means. Like going blind? That would frighten me.

Tenner · May 13, 2011

Skuxx said:
I think I know what you mean. Does it sort of look like you are underwater??? The colors are usually coming from other things, and you can notice them floating in the air, and reflecting off everything (might look cooler with contacts. never worn any). I'd say yeah, that was the beginning to having more intense visuals. You were probably at the mild tracer/morph stage. I've never been able to not see on lucy. Not sure what that means. Like going blind? That would frighten me.

Its quite hard to describe completely I guess, yea like an underwater feeling in a sense. I heard people speaking of very intense trips where they could hardly see, just was wondering if that was the very very beginning of it.. Thanks bro I`ll find out soon enough

Skuxx · May 13, 2011

Tenner said:
Its quite hard to describe completely I guess, yea like an underwater feeling in a sense. I heard people speaking of very intense trips where they could hardly see, just was wondering if that was the very very beginning of it.. Thanks bro I`ll find out soon enough

Oh yeah sometimes it's really hard to see. guess I misunderstood. Everything can turn into a huge blur and be very hard to see. You were right.

Add a bump of K in the middle, and everything will swirl together and looks like your reality is getting flushed down the toilet heheh.

Tenner · May 13, 2011

Skuxx said:
Oh yeah sometimes it's really hard to see. guess I misunderstood. Everything can turn into a huge blur and be very hard to see. You were right.

Add a bump of K in the middle, and everything will swirl together and looks like your reality is getting flushed down the toilet heheh.

Trying to get that bloody stuff!! lol

My guy didn`t have any left but I`ll sure find it by asking a few right people

Michael Phelps · May 13, 2011

Skuxx said:
You didn't eat enough shrooms then. I have had way more intense visuals/body trip from shrooms. BY FAR. You get nice tracers and stuff from acid, and see things morph etc (i've never done more than 800ug).... but on shrooms, I've seen things similar to a DMT trip on heroic doses.. You see stuff that literally just isn't there. On acid, you can look at a tree, and perhaps it will look like something else, but on mush, you will see shit out of thin air much more. The downside is the confusion, and nausea. On acid, you feel ALIVE and energetic, and want to explore the world.

I don't know.... It just seems like your comparison is like the exact opposite from most peoples. The only thing you got right is that acid lasts longer.

PS: If you've never done either, don't do them just for the visuals. There is A LOT more to the experience than just seeing stuff. It changes your consciousness and perception. It can be very frightening if you don't know what you are getting into.

I think it's all situational, brain chemistry+quality product which results in crazy trips. With my experience ive gotten way crazier visuals from dose... One time i ate 700ug's of Needlepoint at once and straight up went blind... Couldnt see anything, not even my hand before my face. Once i regained my vision everything was still in complete fractals for a few hours, after that it calmed down to thing's flying around the room and mickey mouse composing fantasia while standing in the middle of my bedroom. Needless to say i tripped for a solid 20 hours...

Nothing like that ever happened to me on mushrooms... But then again maybe i just never got super duper mushrooms, who knows.

I do completely agree with you when you say dont do shit for the visuals... Bad mistake hahaha. Like you said, there is A LOT more to experience then just seeing stuff!.

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