So am i Crazy.... Oxygen Injection

i came up with a wild idea..........not sure if anyone else has but here it goes

Im a welder and i have a torch set up in my shop and came up with an idea..........what if you put a air stone in the bottom 4inches of a large pot say 15 gals and put a hole in the side of it so the tube from the air stone was out side the pot. Then you could at straight oxygen or just fresh air every couple days or something. I got 4 out of 25 plants with this set up..........to early to tell if it works because i stunted them pretty bad a few weeks ago and they havent recovered yet. But i figure.....what the hell, ill try it. Anyone else heard of this or am i just a crazy pot head with a stupid idea?

You may be crazy, but great thinkers have always encountered violent opposition from mediocre minds. My though...prolly not. Buuuut...who knows, could be badass

well im sure some stoner thought it was a good idea to put CO2 in the air ............and look how good that turned out. I was always under the impression that oxygen was really important to the root system so why would a pure puff every day or two do anything but good for the plant ? Someone with some with real knowledge on plant biology should sit down down fill a bowl and get right in depth on this subject.

yeah if the root system is being pumped with pure 02... just means the media can be irrgated more often. More nutes available and more gas exchange means faster growing plants... maybe the pots will dry out faster? lol I guess you'd be an innovator if it works out

thats a scary thought next thing you know every hydro table will have a small tube going to it with a timed puff of oxygen for yeilds un heard of.
I like the sounds of that.

badbackbill said:

thats a scary thought next thing you know every hydro table will have a small tube going to it with a timed puff of oxygen for yeilds un heard of.
I like the sounds of that.

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Don't most hydro users oxygen there water anyway?
I imagine it will work as in keeping your soil from being to wet or saturated like was said before I be you will water and feed more but that's a good thing.
Will it work for soil.....well I guess your doing a exp. so will see what happens but I have heard of this before.

Also forgot to mention I use fabric pots and they dry fast. And water every other day to everyday depending on strain. Not only do these pots prevent root bound they also let oxygen into to roots better than a reg pot.

I doubt very much the plants would receive any benefit from this idea. If you have a soil medium with proper drainage/porosity (contains a good ratio of perlite) it should be more than adequate for good root development and expansion of the root mass. Addition of an air stone to the bottom of a container may even potentially cause the soil to dry out too quickly between waterings leading to damage to the root mass. You can give it a shot but I would keep that oxygen for my Oxy/Acet. to cut steel.

One thing that does work for delivering oxygen to the roots is hydrogen peroxide...

Filthy Phil said:

One thing that does work for delivering oxygen to the roots is hydrogen peroxide...

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That's what I heard never tried though.

ya never know unless you ask or try it...........ill post pics if theres a difference

Carl Spackler said:

I doubt very much the plants would receive any benefit from this idea. If you have a soil medium with proper drainage/porosity (contains a good ratio of perlite) it should be more than adequate for good root development and expansion of the root mass. Addition of an air stone to the bottom of a container may even potentially cause the soil to dry out too quickly between waterings leading to damage to the root mass. You can give it a shot but I would keep that oxygen for my Oxy/Acet. to cut steel.

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this is what i was thinking. the roots at the bottom like to stay somewhat moist and the roots toward the top like to get more air. maybe stick the thing toward the middle of the pot, but my prediction is there won't be too much benefit. might even confuse the roots or make a moisture to air ratio they don't like.

but if you're willing to try this i'd love to follow along.

im not a scientist or a professional grower, im just another guy with a question i want answered by seeing the difference first hand. I was just curious if anyone has tried it and save me the effort but im already balls deep.......im givin it a whirl

badbackbill said:

i came up with a wild idea..........not sure if anyone else has but here it goes

Im a welder and i have a torch set up in my shop and came up with an idea..........what if you put a air stone in the bottom 4inches of a large pot say 15 gals and put a hole in the side of it so the tube from the air stone was out side the pot. Then you could at straight oxygen or just fresh air every couple days or something. I got 4 out of 25 plants with this set up..........to early to tell if it works because i stunted them pretty bad a few weeks ago and they havent recovered yet. But i figure.....what the hell, ill try it. Anyone else heard of this or am i just a crazy pot head with a stupid idea?

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...ch33r$ .. great idea

ya have fun with this one, do you really think no one has ever thought about this, just like stated below, with a proper soil u have plenty of oxygen, and h2o2 will also kill all your micros growing in the medium. if u want to try to gain more o2 in ur roots, try the smart pots

Soil? Just use Coco bro. Perfect air to water ratio.

Don't tell robs ware you live. Do you know what he does? my guess is robs

just thinking out loud but i belive youlll dry out the roots and kill your plants....... adding air to dwc works because it adds o2 to the water the plants roots are sitting in. the plants always stay wet in dwc (for the most part).

Carl Spackler said:

I doubt very much the plants would receive any benefit from this idea. If you have a soil medium with proper drainage/porosity (contains a good ratio of perlite) it should be more than adequate for good root development and expansion of the root mass. Addition of an air stone to the bottom of a container may even potentially cause the soil to dry out too quickly between waterings leading to damage to the root mass. You can give it a shot but I would keep that oxygen for my Oxy/Acet. to cut steel.

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Already been tried by countless individuals here (incl myself) with negative results. Search the forums, you should find posts by me covering this exact topic.
What happened was basically the plant can only take in so much O2 at the root level anyways, and it tended to dry out the roots even when dissipated through several mediums. Not saying it cannot be done, but us early testers have not had good results.

My final solution actually worked out better- Several large air holes at the bottom of the containers and about 4" of large rock tapering to pea gravel size, then covered with your soil/perilite mix. All the plants I have grown (esp my tomotaoes and peppers) have thrived this way. The rocks allow perfect drainage and natural air entry through the course rock medium and root balls actually surround and engulf the rocks! Try it you'll see how nature is always best! ; )

hi guys, i tried this theory about 5 years ago on 2 plants out of 20 grown in dwc i added 1 extra air stone to the 2 pots and had it very slowly bubbling away for the whole grow i can honestly say it did increase yield on each of the plants 1 by 1/2oz and the other by 3/4 of an oz. but just on two plants it took a lot of o2 so i abandoned the idea.. but seen as im now growing in nft im going to try the theory once again, but this time im going to make a small holding tank at the top of the table where nutrient flows over a long fish tank bubbler before it runs down the table covering each plants roots with rich 02 nutrient.... i will keep you all informed on my findings peace randy.