So do you "flush or not"?

younggungrower

younggungrower

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Capt. Stickyfingers said:
Wrong, you don't know. How does flushing increase yield when you're starving the plant for nutrients? It doesn't at all. There are no chemicals in the buds, that is a myth. Again, grow some more, read, learn facts. N is N, P is P, K is K whether it's from bat guano or flora nova. It's the same on the molecular level. You want to tell me the difference between P in guano and the P in miracle grow? Can you tell me how the N P and K in miracle grow will make your buds taste chemicals? Since you know so much we can compare some photos of plants and buds, I have plenty of pictures. If you can't answer my questions or beat my pics then I don't know what else to tell you.
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Are you serious? i allready said this shit. And to think that there is no nutes in your buds is a joke, there may not be a hole hell of alot, but there are enough to were you flush them out and its better. Its pree simple IMO. Also... "and NO DIFFERENCE except yield" Even you said it. By making the plant use every last bit of its energy and nitrgen from its leaves, it all goes to the bud to make em just as much better as they can get. Now Im not sure how/why your bringing up NPK and Ovc N is N, P is P, K is K, you have to be illiterate to not know that also its completely irelivant. Getting them out of your plant if what you want to do, not keep em and smoke them. I dont think you get that part brotha
 
Capt. Stickyfingers

Capt. Stickyfingers

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younggungrower said:
Are you serious? i allready said this shit. And to think that there is no nutes in your buds is a joke, there may not be a hole hell of alot, but there are enough to were you flush them out and its better. Its pree simple IMO. Also... "and NO DIFFERENCE except yield" Even you said it. By making the plant use every last bit of its energy and nitrgen from its leaves, it all goes to the bud to make em just as much better as they can get. Now Im not sure how/why your bringing up NPK and Ovc N is N, P is P, K is K, you have to be illiterate to not know that also its completely irelivant. Getting them out of your plant if what you want to do, not keep em and smoke them. I dont think you get that part brotha
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Hahaha. What a joke. How are you going to get them out of organic soil? You're a moron. Later.
 
billybob420

billybob420

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I'm not trying to get down on you cause you're wrong. That's okay, you're new (you said so yourself). But your attitude is complete shit, and at that rate you aren't gonna learn anything.
 
younggungrower

younggungrower

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billybob420 said:
Yeah... you are.


Just cause you keep saying it, doesn't mean it's gonna come true.


Science does not take your opinion into consideration.


You're the one who posted that dumbass youtube video, not me.
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Judge me for whatever im being. I could care less, fighting my opinion is all i care about because im not the only person who knows that flushing has been researched and proven to help. 2nd... If you think everything im saying is wrong, literally everything... you need to research flushing abit more. 3rd... Science doesnt take my opinion... it is my opinion, ANd its a legit video, watch it and learn somthing. Flushing is such a simple technique they use at all dispencerys... its unbeliveable that you think everything im sayin is sompletely wrong.
 
younggungrower

younggungrower

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Capt. Stickyfingers said:
Know it all noobs are great aren't they? Reminds me of going to Guitar Center.
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Fuckin stupid brotha, Go to a dispencery, get them to explane how they flush all their plants and why. Im not a know it all.. nore did i say i was one. But in this case i have proiven research, growers, dispencerys and science on my sice. People do shit diff, so you might have a diff outcome.. who fucking knows. Now stop callin me out bitch.
 
younggungrower

younggungrower

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billybob420 said:
I'm not trying to get down on you cause you're wrong. That's okay, you're new (you said so yourself). But your attitude is complete shit, and at that rate you aren't gonna learn anything.
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Guess i gotta reply to this shit too.... Yeah im new, but im not illiterate. This is so simple its outrageous people deny it with such a passion. My attitude right now is persiveriance, im argueing with two blockheads and still standing up.
 
Capt. Stickyfingers

Capt. Stickyfingers

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younggungrower said:
Fuckin stupid brotha, Go to a dispencery, get them to explane how they flush all their plants and why. Im not a know it all.. nore did i say i was one. But in this case i have proiven research, growers, dispencerys and science on my sice. People do shit diff, so you might have a diff outcome.. who fucking knows. Now stop callin me out bitch.
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So prove me wrong. How is the NPK in organic soil different than chem nutes? Why would it make the buds taste like chems? Why can't you spell for shit?

https://www.rollitup.org/indoor-growing/554905-first-dresser-grow.html

Wow, you really have your shit together. Bravo. No wonder you're giving advice, you got it all down.
 
racerboy71

racerboy71

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Capt. Stickyfingers said:
Wrong, you don't know. How does flushing increase yield when you're starving the plant for nutrients? It doesn't at all. There are no chemicals in the buds, that is a myth. Again, grow some more, read, learn facts. N is N, P is P, K is K whether it's from bat guano or flora nova. It's the same on the molecular level. You want to tell me the difference between P in guano and the P in miracle grow? Can you tell me how the N P and K in miracle grow will make your buds taste chemicals? Since you know so much we can compare some photos of plants and buds, I have plenty of pictures. If you can't answer my questions or beat my pics then I don't know what else to tell you.
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i so agree with this statement sticky, it's not even funny.. i lol at people who say it makes a difference in where your nutes come from, whether it's bird shit or miracle grow, the molecules that make up nitrogen and p and k are going to be the same exact molecules no matter where it comes from..
and when people say not flushing will make the buds taste like nitrogen.. well, wtf does nitrogen taste like?? i've no clue personally...

the only time i can see flushing is if you overfeed or are having burn issues or w/e... flush the soil to get out any extra nutes and get a fresh start, other than that, idk..
i still don't see what extra nutes are in the buds that you're trying to get rid of... i'll never understand that.. the plant only stores as much as it needs to do its work, nothing more.. do people have big storages of nutrients that we get in our foods or do we just take what we need to function and piss and shit out the rest??
 
younggungrower

younggungrower

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Capt. Stickyfingers said:
So prove me wrong. How is the NPK in organic soil different than chem nutes? Why would it make the buds taste like chems? Why can't you spell for shit?
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I cant spell for shit because im not trying to please your royal ass... Now...as i said, im not a know it all... I have no idea about NPK in organic soil and the diff between chem nutes... Thast somthing i can say i dont know, and if your asking ot chem nute can make the buds taste dfferent is because last time i checked, your not supost to smoke nutes... Smoking the late nutriant build up in the bud from not flushing gives it a tinge type taste... Its slight, but noticable. Flushing all that crap out, makes the plant use all its energy and all its got, towards the bud, along with getting the crap you dont want to smoke, out.
 
younggungrower

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racerboy71 said:
i so agree with this statement sticky, it's not even funny.. i lol at people who say it makes a difference in where your nutes come from, whether it's bird shit or miracle grow, the molecules that make up nitrogen and p and k are going to be the same exact molecules no matter where it comes from..
and when people say not flushing will make the buds taste like nitrogen.. well, wtf does nitrogen taste like?? i've no clue personally...

the only time i can see flushing is if you overfeed or are having burn issues or w/e... flush the soil to get out any extra nutes and get a fresh start, other than that, idk..
i still don't see what extra nutes are in the buds that you're trying to get rid of... i'll never understand that.. the plant only stores as much as it needs to do its work, nothing more.. do people have big storages of nutrients that we get in our foods or do we just take what we need to function and piss and shit out the rest??
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A third person against me... Wonderful. NPK, yes, will allways be NPK no matter were it comes from, but in diff mediums and diff nutes... There are more of them. The more you put in... and if you dont flush, the more your ingesting. If your smoking for medical purpose... you would care, or atleast should. The plant uses nutes to make buds bigger, yes? SensiBloom, Liquid Karma, Bud Candy... All those nutes go to your buds and feed your buds and what your plants need FOR the buds... you dont want to smoke that crap.
 
Capt. Stickyfingers

Capt. Stickyfingers

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younggungrower said:
1. I have no idea about NPK in organic soil and the diff between chem nutes...
2. Iif your asking ot chem nute can make the buds taste dfferent is because last time i checked, your not supost to smoke nutes... Smoking the late nutriant build up in the bud from not flushing gives it a tinge type taste... Its slight, but noticable.
3.Flushing all that crap out, makes the plant use all its energy and all its got, towards the bud, along with getting the crap you dont want to smoke, out.
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1. You have no idea... CORRECT!!!
2. You can't flush organic nutes from soil, and that's ok? But chem nutes aren't ok? WRONG!!! Back to your number 1 answer.
3. Wrong. It does not MAKE the plant use all it's energy toward budding. The plant is doing that anyway and using lots of P and K while doing so. Why take it away? Back to your #1 answer. You have no idea.
 
younggungrower

younggungrower

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Capt. Stickyfingers said:
1. You have no idea... CORRECT!!!
2. You can't flush organic nutes from soil, and that's ok? But chem nutes aren't ok? WRONG!!! Back to your number 1 answer.
3. Wrong. It does not MAKE the plant use all it's energy toward budding. The plant is doing that anyway and using lots of P and K while doing so. Why take it away? Back to your #1 answer. You have no idea.
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AS i said im not a know it all... I know what im talking about when it comes to flushing being a medical benificial. Recreationally... It doesnt really matter other than the yeild is a bit better. And yup... i dont know about that crap, chem nutes, all the details to everything, im sorry i didnt look it up more your highness... 2nd... If you cant flush organic nutes... who cares, its Organic. and yes Chem nutes aren't ok to smoke or keep in your bud because them are CHEMICALS! lol, Are you saying keeping chem ferts all up in your plant and smoking the build up from them.. is good? 3rd... I do have an idea, your just ignorant and judgemental. when you flush, or feed with water for the last 2 weeks, its not an immediate clearout and everything is gone. its gone from the growing meduim...not the pant, thats why you flush for 2 weeks. your plan is still useing P and K the entire time, but nearning the end of 2 weeks it is lowered, and the plant 'naturaly' grows.
 
Capt. Stickyfingers

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^^
Lol all day long. Good luck with your first dresser grow. Later.

[video=youtube;C_Kh7nLplWo]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=C_Kh7nLplWo[/video]
 
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Eraserhead

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Let me get this straight, according to the pic below (that I pulled from your 1st and current grow journal, in a dresser at that), that is all you've ever amounted to in growing so far, but you still come off as someone that has it all figured out? And swears you know what you're talking about?

You are a noob that germinated a seed and now thinks he's Ed Rosenthal.

Like everyone else is saying, less talk, more reading and learning.



younggungrower said:
AS i said im not a know it all... I know what im talking about when it comes to flushing being a medical benificial. Recreationally... It doesnt really matter other than the yeild is a bit better. And yup... i dont know about that crap, chem nutes, all the details to everything, im sorry i didnt look it up more your highness... 2nd... If you cant flush organic nutes... who cares, its Organic. and yes Chem nutes aren't ok to smoke or keep in your bud because them are CHEMICALS! lol, Are you saying keeping chem ferts all up in your plant and smoking the build up from them.. is good? 3rd... I do have an idea, your just ignorant and judgemental. when you flush, or feed with water for the last 2 weeks, its not an immediate clearout and everything is gone. its gone from the growing meduim...not the pant, thats why you flush for 2 weeks. your plan is still useing P and K the entire time, but nearning the end of 2 weeks it is lowered, and the plant 'naturaly' grows.
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cindysid

cindysid

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I flushed half my crop a few years ago. All it did for me was cause the fan leaves to yellow. There was absolutely no difference in taste. The ones that I flushed took longer to cure. I haven't flushed since, but I use only organic nutes now. I don't use molasses either. I tried it and it made it taste funny, and added nothing that I could tell. Growing pot is like religion. There is no logic to it. People grow according to their beliefs. Flushing won't kill your plants...usually..so flush away!
 
younggungrower

younggungrower

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cindysid said:
I flushed half my crop a few years ago. All it did for me was cause the fan leaves to yellow. There was absolutely no difference in taste. The ones that I flushed took longer to cure. I haven't flushed since, but I use only organic nutes now. I don't use molasses either. I tried it and it made it taste funny, and added nothing that I could tell. Growing pot is like religion. There is no logic to it. People grow according to their beliefs. Flushing won't kill your plants...usually..so flush away!
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Agreed, people use diff methods and there are diff outcomes. Im just throwing up what i know.
 
younggungrower

younggungrower

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Eraserhead said:
Let me get this straight, according to the pic below (that I pulled from your 1st and current grow journal, in a dresser at that), that is all you've ever amounted to in growing so far, but you still come off as someone that has it all figured out? And swears you know what you're talking about?

You are a noob that germinated a seed and now thinks he's Ed Rosenthal.

Like everyone else is saying, less talk, more reading and learning.

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Now on to you... Yes, thast my plant, my very...very crappy plant, now im not saying i know everything, i have said this multipul times, looks like your just another blockhead. Im saying i know what im talking about when it comes to.. listn carfuly... Medical Benifits to Flushing Your Plant. Not a fucking expert on growing. Get that together.
 
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