I used neem and permethium based products .First with Green Light Neem oil .3 days later with permethium I dont think thats spelled right but then 3 days later with neem oil again .I spray right before the lights go out so they dry up overnight .Now 3 days later i sprayed with neem again which was this morning and tommorrow i,m gonna spay her down with water again. Neem leaves a residue which can prevent your plants leaves from transpiring at night.So its best to rinse it off before too long .I checked with a 30 x loupe b4 I sprayed this morning and I could see some mites but none of them were moving i even tryed nudgeing them with a needle and nothing .So from what i could tell they are dead .I,m gonna continue to spray with atleast water once a week and check leaves daily to be sure they dont come back.