So whats a MAGAs excuse for believing Trump won?

DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Here are some post election polls, this takes Trump's post election antics into account, most of his supporters don't give a fuck about democracy.
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Latest Polls | FiveThirtyEight

Nov. 24, 2020
Presidential approvalNOV 22-24, 2020C+
Rasmussen Reports/Pulse Opinion Research		1,500LVApprove49%49%DisapproveEVEN
Presidential approvalNOV 21-24, 2020B
YouGov		1,500RVApprove43%55%DisapproveDisapprove+12
Presidential approvalNOV 18-24, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		31,920LVApprove41%54%DisapproveDisapprove+13
Nov. 23, 2020
Presidential approvalNOV 21-23, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		1,990RVApprove43%55%DisapproveDisapprove+12
Presidential approvalNOV 20-23, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		2,201AApprove42%54%DisapproveDisapprove+12
Presidential approvalNOV 19-23, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		2,200AApprove40%57%DisapproveDisapprove+17
Presidential approvalNOV 18-22, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		2,200AApprove42%55%DisapproveDisapprove+13
Presidential approvalNOV 19-21, 2020B/C
RMG Research		1,200RVApprove46%51%DisapproveDisapprove+5
Presidential approvalNOV 17-19, 2020C
Harris Poll		2,205RVApprove51%49%DisapproveApprove+2
Presidential approvalNOV 12-14, 2020B/C
RMG Research		1,200RVApprove45%53%DisapproveDisapprove+8
 
DCcan

DCcan

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Recent quote from AP news...If I recall correctly, she was the first Trump supporter I ever met.

“You can’t plan. You can’t live in chaos,” she said. “The trade war, was it going to last a week, was it going to last a month, was it going to last four years? How do you operate around that?”
Stephanie Nadeau, owner of The Lobster Company, an Arundel, Maine, dealer.

She has been whining quite a bit last few years to the newspapers over being punished by the trade war.
 
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schuylaar

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Rob Roy said:
Madam, for decades the majority of adults in the USA were brainwashed into putting their adult neighbors in cages for the crime of thinking they owned their own body and having the wrong plant. I agree with your sentiment, no children should be held in cages, but your incredulity at what government will do surprises me.

Government has used distractions for years to take the focus off of them. In fact they're doing now. (covid 19...cough cough)

Duuuude, do you even paraquat?
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did you know that married couples had to get SCOTUS approval to use birth control or it was against the law in 1965?

Griswold v. Connecticut - Wikipedia

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DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Rob Roy said:
How does a democracy protect individual rights ?
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How does it promote individual responsibilities and suppress selfish antisocial assholes is a better question. You always speak of rights and not responsibilities, so do Trumpers. Hospital staffs are at the breaking point and nobody wants to hear you squeal and whine about your right to kill other people with fucking stupidity. You have a right to do yourself, not to harm others, society puts you in a cage for that and should.

The constitution protects minorities from majorities, that's one of it's purposes, but you neither support or defend it, so don't whine about rights.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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DIY-HP-LED said:
How does it promote individual responsibilities
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Government documents do not promote freedom though, they teach obedience to arbitrary authority.

They allege to promote/protect liberty, but since all governments you can name assume your individual consent, even when none is given, they don't promote liberty either. You kind of suck at this. Lol.
 

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xtsho

xtsho

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There is no excuse but there is ignorance. Anyone that believes all the lies and conspiracy theories is ignorant.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Rob Roy said:
Government documents do not promote freedom though, they teach obedience to arbitrary authority.

They allege to promote/protect liberty, but since all governments you can name assume your individual consent, even when none is given, they don't promote liberty either. You kind of suck at this. Lol.
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Rob you just have an issue of authority figures, it happened when yer pa used the buckle end of the belt too much. If they were rich they woulda sent you to military school like Donald and they would have made a man out of you, like Donald...
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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xtsho said:
There is no excuse but there is ignorance. Anyone that believes all the lies and conspiracy theories is ignorant.
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Willfully ignorant, they wanna believe, it fits with the way they believe the world should be, not as it is.
 
Rob Roy

Rob Roy

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Rob you just have an issue of authority figures, it happened when yer pa used the buckle end of the belt too much. If they were rich they woulda sent you to military school like Donald and they would have made a man out of you, like Donald...
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You are the authority over your own life and I am over mine. if anyone tries to tell you different, just sound the alarm and help will appear!



 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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Rob Roy said:
You are the authority over your own life and I am over mine. if anyone tries to tell you different, just sound the alarm and help will appear!



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That is an illusion, you have no control over your mind or your life, if you did, you wouldn't be an ignorant loser, wasting your time with screwball rationalizations for your perversions.
 
topcat

topcat

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DIY-HP-LED said:
Here are some post election polls, this takes Trump's post election antics into account, most of his supporters don't give a fuck about democracy.
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Latest Polls | FiveThirtyEight

Nov. 24, 2020
Presidential approvalNOV 22-24, 2020C+
Rasmussen Reports/Pulse Opinion Research		1,500LVApprove49%49%DisapproveEVEN
Presidential approvalNOV 21-24, 2020B
YouGov		1,500RVApprove43%55%DisapproveDisapprove+12
Presidential approvalNOV 18-24, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		31,920LVApprove41%54%DisapproveDisapprove+13
Nov. 23, 2020

Presidential approvalNOV 21-23, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		1,990RVApprove43%55%DisapproveDisapprove+12
Presidential approvalNOV 20-23, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		2,201AApprove42%54%DisapproveDisapprove+12
Presidential approvalNOV 19-23, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		2,200AApprove40%57%DisapproveDisapprove+17
Presidential approvalNOV 18-22, 2020B/C
Morning Consult		2,200AApprove42%55%DisapproveDisapprove+13
Presidential approvalNOV 19-21, 2020B/C
RMG Research		1,200RVApprove46%51%DisapproveDisapprove+5
Presidential approvalNOV 17-19, 2020C
Harris Poll		2,205RVApprove51%49%DisapproveApprove+2
Presidential approvalNOV 12-14, 2020B/C
RMG Research		1,200RVApprove45%53%DisapproveDisapprove+8
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By now, don't we know what polls are worth? Bupkus.
 
DIY-HP-LED

DIY-HP-LED

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topcat said:
By now, don't we know what polls are worth? Bupkus.
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They learn every time, the extra Trump voters don't vote regularly and don't answer phone polls, they factored it in, but not enough. I think the pre election polls made them and the hardcore Trumpers realize instinctively that this was Armageddon, the final battle, so they crawled out from under their rocks and went to the polls or mailed in their ballot.

If the republicans ran a nicer version of Donald it would be different, use Donald's formula, but put lipstick on the pig in 2024, if they can. The base will demand a fucking lunatic every bit as bad as Donald though, they've had a taste now.
 
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