So who here is growing in true organic living soil?

greenghost420

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plants in flower or veg? i would start with neem oil, maybe. how badly infested? i had mites once and was so discouraged. i picked a few fans i found em on and prepared for overhaul. picking the fans off worked and i was lucky as shit! my shit was mad early, prob less than 15 20 mites.
 

buckaroo bonzai

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Omg we have mites so bad, ive hit them with a pyrethrum bomb twice and they keep coming back.
I have some habanero juice i just dont know the strength.


Whats the cheapest easiest way to get rid of them, also my room stays muggy, what should my rh be?

:shock::eyesmoke:bongsmilie:shock::?


--use pyrethrum @ 3-6-9...days ...or 2-4-6 days for week or two....their cycle is every 2days or 3days new larvae hatch


they can be 'asexual' meaning they can self replicate.....one female can hatch a million larvae in a month


so hitting them 3rd day....6th....day...9th day doesn't allow them to hatch and gets them b4 they hatch.....


--2wks is a good time cycle to do this if you can afford the pyrethrum bombs-


-also getting the time release spray can of pyrethrum and spraying your room walls in between the plants in the doorways etc....
(grow marigolds or chrysanthemums in your room too to keep them away)


if you have animals they can stay on them and really cause you problems-


--keeping all the dirt in the corners swept


-and always...always....clean clean clean is the best way to keep them down....they love dirty corners to hide in
...and lazy unkept people that don't clean their house or rooms enough-


never spray after flower cycle goes into effect.....


there is also an old skool approach that says you should do a multi prong attack to eliminate them....


-physical
-chemical
-prophylactically....preventatively


-I.e......


-pick as many infested leaves off....the worst ones definitely


-take the plant after you pick the worst leaves and spray the whole plant down with water to blow them off physically
.....do this at watering time


soak them at watering time and spray the leaves
....have someone hold branches and leaves 'up' to get the underside where they hide the most
(I have used a pump sprayer while me and my gurl held each branch and sprayed each leave off-)


(they stay on the underside of the leaf and climb up on top when they want to eat and suck the moisture out)


-if the plants aren't too big you can make a 'neem' dunk in a garbage can
.....fill up a garbage can w water and add neem and dunk the whole plant upside down completely submerging and coating them


...I have dunked 3-4foot plants before
....make a 'lid' to put over pot so the dirt doesn't fall out-cardboard


--keep a mild neem spray and keep spraying them periodically or prophylactically till you switch the light cycle-


--I also like to add a little neem in my water reservoir so the plants uptake it and it becomes systemic
....meaning it's uploaded into the plant and the little fuckers hate the smell of neem
--put neem cake in your soil mix too


-be careful with too much neem on them tho when (dunking) under strong(1000wt) as they can burn some
....if you dunk and they are real shiny
-raise your lights if you have to till they acclimate-or do it when their gonna be off


if you want to use a 'pepper' spray I would suggest 'ghost-peppers' and spray the underside too
....the pepper literally melts them and kills the little fuckers but they are one of those creatures that will survive a nuclear bomb.....the mj will too-:-P


There are recipes online...Google pepper spray for cannabis-


----as far as RH.....most people will tell you all kinds of shit how 'they' do it.....


myself i I keep my rooms (when I have one) at around 40%--even less


the dryness helps the plant put out more sugar as a natural mechanism and keeps molds and mildews down....-


never more than 45-50%


that is at a 72-76 degree temp also


i have read and seen different fluctuations in RH can actually help the plant do it's own thing but lots of folks in here are 'experts' and have their own opinions-(make up ur own mind)


myself i I don't know much.....just what I learn everytime I do it-




diligence is the key word when dealing with mites tho--it's fucking war and they will win every time if you don't practice this


also avoiding grow shops and places where other growers frequent is a good thing and should be practiced with consciousness


never go into someone else's room and then into yours....unless you know the persons methods well
And don't take others 'cuts' and always quarantine if you do-


Also they will jump on your clothes...in your hair....on your eyelashes and into your ears
.......change clothes after attacking them and put straight into a garbage bag and then into the wash-hot hot cycle


i can always tell if there's mites in someone's room as my eyebrows itch and ears.....yikes!




i like to attack them naked and then go straight to the shower




mites hate cold also so keeping your room temp down when the lights are off helps too-


if you think your plants are vigorous and vital and can stand it put them outside for a few and the mites will jump off looking for warmer places to call home-


Or you can always just do nothing and vacuum off the webs once the cycle is finshed and many still are able to convert their mess


....especially here in mich where everyone is 'experts' and lots don't tell the real problems they have with their plants(medicine)after spending tons of $$ growing the shit and they need to convert it to try and recoup


.....they will sell anything here in Godzilla and it's ALL 'killer' [pffffft]...cat hair ...powdery....etc-




but if you don't like smoking mites and their eggs just remember the word diligent and practice it diligently


good luck!


war!


fuck mites and all the lazy asses who raise them and infect others.....I have seen mite growers here in michigan




peace:eyesmoke:

EDIT: always set off pyrethrum bombs when lights are off....I do it when they first go off to give them time to assimilate and lights don't go on too soon and burn them
 

CWinAZ

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That is awesome info for getting the bio char ready. This thread is gold!

I also didn't find any mention of using coco vs peat moss in the base soil mix. I have a lot of unused coco, but no peat and I'd like to substitute the coco for the peat in the base recipe, would that require any other considerations? They're both basically inert, and used for water retention, yes? Thanks for any guidance on that option!
 

dstrees

Member
I feel like I've been wasting these past 2 years on my growing experience. This thread has helped me realize that the reason I've been suffering from bad harvests is because I've been conned into buying all these nutrients and feeding every week! I'm poisoning my plant and myself! No wonder people say my bud is harsh... I feel like a complete dumbass emptying all this cash into chemicals for no reason! It all comes down to a healthy self sufficient soil!
 

Rrog

Well-Known Member
CW- Use the coco if you have it. Just make sure it's been conditioned, etc as per normal coco use.

dstrees- You chose the green pill... Welcome to the Green Matrix...
 

Someacdude

Active Member
I feel like I've been wasting these past 2 years on my growing experience. This thread has helped me realize that the reason I've been suffering from bad harvests is because I've been conned into buying all these nutrients and feeding every week! I'm poisoning my plant and myself! No wonder people say my bud is harsh... I feel like a complete dumbass emptying all this cash into chemicals for no reason! It all comes down to a healthy self sufficient soil!
Yeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhh dont do that.

I dont care who a person is there is always room to learn.

I am a professional in my trade, i know people coast to coast, im awesome at my job,but. There is always someone out here who is just stupid smart, ive found it in my trade on forums and ive seen it here especially this thread.
The best part is so far we dont have a single asshole here except me , so pull up a chair and think happy thoughts, your not stupid at all, you just got advise from someone stupid.:peace:
 

buckaroo bonzai

Well-Known Member
Yeeaaaaaaaaaahhhhh dont do that.

I dont care who a person is there is always room to learn.

I am a professional in my trade, i know people coast to coast, im awesome at my job,but. There is always someone out here who is just stupid smart, ive found it in my trade on forums and ive seen it here especially this thread.
The best part is so far we dont have a single asshole here except me , so pull up a chair and think happy thoughts, your not stupid at all, you just got advise from someone stupid.:peace:

so 'ac' bro.......

--r you really "some AC dude"......?

for real?


that could go along way in these forums as many here need help with AC stuff....mini split systems .....cooling advice....etc

--you think we're helping you when really some of us in here are looking for guys like you we can vet and trust.....

we we might pass you around like cheap wine-

would be 'cool'[pun intended] if we had a real AC guy in here to help a few out.......

--I know a couple people right now could use some help with split systems and cooling advice
...very important if your trying to do a good room


let us know-

....what goes around comes around in a big circle:joint:


Peace and hapy hapy mery mery to you and yours


Ps..no stupid people in here......just uninformed and need help

truedat the stuf in here could take you years to learn on your own-thank the Buddha Rrog for the high vibe in this thread-

i like to to think were in here like a big virtual interweb cyber circle passing info ...ideas...crazy thoughts and laffs around like big spiffs :eyesmoke:
 

Someacdude

Active Member
Yep, ive offered before, but the guys on the other threads already know everything:blsmoke:
No worries, if any of you have questions ask away, thats one thing im competent in although its a huge waste in Cali since they neither respect or need ac.
One year here and im so depressed its not even funny, i need to move again.


so 'ac' bro.......

--r you really "some AC dude"......?

for real?


that could go along way in these forums as many here need help with AC stuff....mini split systems .....cooling advice....etc

--you think we're helping you when really some of us in here are looking for guys like you we can vet and trust.....

we we might pass you around like cheap wine-

would be 'cool'[pun intended] if we had a real AC guy in here to help a few out.......

--I know a couple people right now could use some help with split systems and cooling advice
...very important if your trying to do a good room


let us know-

....what goes around comes around in a big circle:joint:


Peace and hapy hapy mery mery to you and yours


Ps..no stupid people in here......just uninformed and need help

truedat the stuf in here could take you years to learn on your own-thank the Buddha Rrog for the high vibe in this thread-

i like to to think were in here like a big virtual interweb cyber circle passing info ...ideas...crazy thoughts and laffs around like big spiffs :eyesmoke:
 

Someacdude

Active Member
Share as much as you can without inconveniencing yourself.

Much appreciated.

JD
We may need to start a new thread , at least if would keep us from destroying this awesome one, trick is to get everyone on it,,,to bad we cant make it invite only to keep ot some of our less kind brethren.
At any rate, that is one thing i can do, over 25 years in that field at least.
 

Someacdude

Active Member
Ok, i hope someone is still here, i put a layer of diatomaceous earth on top of the soil, like 1/2 inch maybe 1/4 and my son is freaking out???
Did i screw up?
 

abe supercro

Well-Known Member
No you did not.
> it can get a little caked up (watering may be trickier) like when i use white play sand as a mulch.

Can you start a quarantine area for smaller neem spray-treatable cuttings until you can flower everything off and clean anything that has had mite exposure? once their darn population gets established i don't know any other way.

I contacted st0w's neem cake lady in MN and it's expense to ship (37/44lbs), unless i get a small pallet of (10) 44lb bags then a quantity discount becomes available. :joint::-P
 
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