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hello there,

imagine this , because no camera , there will be high def pics tomorrow no worrys haha.

so 65 inches long by 55 inches long by 8 ft tall.

current situation , 465 cfm blower fan sucking air from a hole in the light hood at the top taking otu the hot air , working really well.... 1000w hps light

nutes
Dnf Grow
Dnf Bloom

Diamond nectar
Dr thornbees, or Big Bud as they call it

current ppm 1600 in flowring at 22 days

ph , who checks ph lol

temp 25- 28 c
humidity 50-60 soemtimes 65 if left unchecked long enough .... sometimes gatta open the window in the bdr and stick the exhaust out

there about 34 inches high , and 3.5 ft wide

5 white russians from clone in rockwool and hydroton balls, started in 5 inch net pots in a big ol tuppaware with lots of air stones ...

now in seperate buckets 5 gal

each with its own large round air stone

question is .............................


here it comes






wondering if maybe a sog is in order,

2 clones go in a medium sized tuppaware , alredy rooted of course by this point and maybe go sdtrait into flower????? i dont know

how big would they get and how long would it be till they started showing signs of flwoering if so....


or maybe start them in the coset under cfls till they got a bit of a root to em ..... but basically ok clones good size , when to switch to flower???

so there in there .... 3 weeks later, egt 2 more clones do the same thing .... and swithc the odler ones into buckets , push them towards the back , and put the new clone container in ....

3-4 weeks later 2 more clones same thing , older ones same thing push back in buckets, but the olders ones shift towards to door.... look at the diagram included.....


wondering though , keep the 1000w hps lgiht on 12/12 forever and just keep doing that and shifting positions , so with this space ...... how man yplants do you think could fit .... this is why im wondering because white russian is very indica in its bushyness if u go back and look at there specs i listed lol


so if i go strait to flower from clone they wont be nearly as big right ,,, hense fitting more,.... and its all dwc , and they have to be acessable of course ...... pics tomorrow i sorry i dont have any for now , but hopefully theres enough info here for an educated guestimate??? please!!!
 
LOLz bro this sounds pretty feckin nice to be honest.. Sounds like u did alot of thinking or maybe ur just a sleeper that knows whats going on!
Bro check out my perpetual sog thread.
U can do str8 plants from seed but i think the main purpose is to keep a mom or 2 in veg, cut when needed to keep ur grow supplied with plants and growing nothing but main colas..
I take all my clones around 7 inches tall. May take them smaller depending on the stretchiness of the strain but sounds like u got enuff light to handle baseball bat colas.
I go str8 to flower as soon as my root start popping out of my plugs.. Id wait for either all or what u need to all get roots popping out of the plugs or medium of ur choice.If not some are going to get better starts then other's and beat the slower growers out in the race and competition for the light..
something i learned the hard way..
Also u must take ur cuttings all the same size as well..for the same reason staed above..
Uniform and consistent..
U will see what ive based my entire grow from in al b fucts thread harvest a pound... Stickied at the top of the hydro section and what ur gonna need is the very first post on the very first page bro.

Id check and get u links let me know if u need help finding this info..
Nutes... This is where im still experimenting..I can say however if u plan on growing multiple plants per tub like i do ur gonna need to supplement with micro nutrients...something thats compatible with ur main nutes of choice..
Id highly reccomend u supplement with something that supplies fulvic acid...
again something thats compatible with ur nutes..
This will help ur plants in flower stage by making the nutes more easily accessible to ur plants.. And fill the bud up in latter stages of growth.
Hope this helps.
Caddy has a sog going in the hydro section. I do too.. And so do a few others..

Read al b fucts thread first my man..
Good luck
 
thanks buddy , will do , i have diamond nectar ,a nd b1 or as they call it , super thrive lol that work right
 
Yea man sorry i seen the nectar my bad bro.. Bro i was trying to grow 12 plants in an 18 gallon tub on my reggie back bone nutes.. I think if ur not supplementing micro nutrients or cal-mag ur plants are going to end up competing for certain nutes and begin getting deficiencies latter on when u least want them..
Not familiar with ur nutes man u may be all set..
Ive found superthrive to work well growing root structure on seedlings and cutting man.. its what i currently use actually.
Looking forward to this u got pix yet?
 
not till budddy get here around noon tomorrow sorry buddy ,, but stick aorund , itl be worth it haha 23 days into flower.... fuckin monsters yeahs its all going to be dwc because thats how ive had it and im not messing with a good thing , cept harvest times hopefully lol its just too long to wait ,.... im thinking 4 plants each stake , 3 stages clones , clones in tuppaware , 2 weeks or a month in put 4 more in medium sized tupper, and put the bigger guys in a bigger tupper for more room to grow, then i think buckets for the final stage , so 12 in all.... thinkmi could fit it??
 
haha thanks buddy , any ideas for sizes of tubs for clones and month olders?? i think 5gal for flowers is good,
 
I kept 2 moms in one 3 gallon bucket for a few months and cut on her a few times.. Id reccomend a 5 gallon bucket per mom if u plan on keeping moms for any considerable amount of time.. U could prolly even keep one mom in a 3 gallon for quite some time depending on root mass growth of the strain.
1 plant per sq.ft. is whats acceptable and by all means proven and tried and correct information given by many of these insane growers here..
Keep in mind in DWC ur gonna be able to cram a bunch o cuttings in one tub if u choose tubs..The trick with using tubs and cramped spaces is. 1 take ur cuttings all the same size.. And dont be in a hurry transplanting clones to tubs. Wait for root uniform root action popping out of the plugs before u transplant its that simple.

Next in a 5 gallon bucket I wouldnt push 4 plants although the area over the top of a bucket is a close to 1 sq. ft. Id do 3 cutting's per bucket if u plan on using buckets.
Id give each plant its own 3.75 inch net pot and evenly distribute the pots over the area of the buckets..

This is crucial.. I made the mistake of trying to put multiple plants in one 5 inch pot..
They will compete while sharing pots and the weak will not be able to keep up when it comes to the finish line..All about uniformity i think and giving each plant the room and respect they need to get to where ur going..
3 rules man..
1 plant per sq.ft.
One pot per plant.
Uniform cutting's before start..
Next Depending on strain ur not really going to need to veg at all unless u got great head room. I think it would better benefit u and ur lighting to do tubs and many plants per tubs.. My clones end up around 39-43 inches at harvest.. Nothing but x mas trees str8 up and about as big as a bat..at least some of them.
Obviously shorter growing strains could be vegged longer..
In this case id just cram more plants depending on the actual room the plants take at harvest..
But this is all based AL B FUCTS lollipop method as well where u trim some of the lower stems on the plants and grow main colas.
Alot of this information i stole from alot of growers here..Alot of it has been decided during in the field research how these techniques work the best for me in my dwc sog system.
Hope this helps.
 
heres a 3d of what the new room might look like next gro.... to scale lol ... big rectangle is door to show how high it is
 
heres a 3d of what the new room might look like next gro.... to scale lol ... big rectangle is door to show how high it is
clone in the little one in the middle, month oldies on the left, flower on the right
 
What if ur flower room is completely full of plants and there is no room for a seperate rez? How would u pump the solution in and flood ur plants if u only have one flower space? Id like to try the flood and drain but space and circumstances wont allow.
Besides i believe u can do this with dwc and achieve the same results. Just needs a lil more fine tuning.
 
Ok I see now. Thanks for clearifying this bro. But why do flood and drain this style..
Wouldnt u be better off cutting ur cubic ft. down and utilizing ur wattage and grow space in ur flowering area?
I dont get it.. If i did ebb.. Id seperate my rez entirely from my flower spot.. Then id pump it in from an outside source thats completely controlled temp wize as well as a single rez wize so all u have to do is maintain a single station..

Dwc is more work but in stealth situationsXquantity per spot ur not going to beat it.
U ever see a 29 gram bud dried?
 
lol, but man its a bitch to change seperate res's this way it would just be 3 res once a week with water top ups here and there... temp isnt an issue so far why should it be with ebb ? im looking for more constant harvests help me out buddy
 
Trying to bro.. But if ebb and flow is what u want then do ebb and flow.. Dwc works well.. If u get ur rez's on a schedule and in tune all u doo is change them together in sync. If u think a lil and incorporate a nice small sub pump into the equation rez changes are a breeze and about the only maintenance u will see between top offs.
Besides ph and nute replenishment.
I dunno there is no one way to do hydro.. To each his own.. If i can hartvest 150 grams or more with 300 watts of hps in as lil as 3 months in a 3 foot square area in one rez and tub inside my walkin closet im gonna easily without the extra contraptions, strapons and etc..A tub, An air pump an air stone and some mj is all u need to grow jungles bro..
Trying to open my mind to more things tho just stuck with current requirements.
 
explain ur system ... when its rescahange u suck all the water out of ur ress with a submersable pump into a big res.. empty it , make new batch, clean ur buckets and pump it back in?? and ulsee what i mean tomorrow with pics dude there near impossible to change right now lol its gettign harder everytime , i need it simplified, and less plant movage , and more walking space... and what do you mean how would i be able to use my light more efficiantly with setting up that 3d rendering
 
Fullest respects man.. I dont need pix.. Im sure ur stuff is on point. I thought u were inquiring on DWC sog bro.. Im confused now.
Either way my system is under construction. Ebb and flow is proven and have learned everything i know from ebb and flow growers as far as exploitmygrowalism.
Nothing but love especially for al b fuct. Wish i could shake his hand actually.
So my bad bro.. Bugsrnme actually has a sog thread which u speak of in the hydro section.
 
u gata see these , but yeah i think i have a better idea for dwc sog im making a 3d now and u gatta see pics tomorrow man stay subscribed.... and what about pumps and external res,,,,, this could help me out big
 
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