SOG growers wanted !!!
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grandpabear3
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this i gotta see...and for my next trick... I will flower clones with no roots...
Morning Bugs...
What do you think of these things...?
i think they are perfect and i hope you get yours cheaper than the 640 buchs i paid for mine.......
its worth the peace of mind though.
GypsyBush
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Oh... they just don't grow much... I have harvested quite a few miniatures from the old soaked foam setup that did not have a single strand of root...
an 8th of bud on a rotting stick with zero roots...
I don't recommend it... but I guess it is better than nothing...
I am having a real hard time with this whole thing here since surgery...
Power went out... shit goes wrong and I can't fix it...
Holy Fuck... I can't wait for things to start looking a bit more... better...
$365 delivered to the boondocks in Alaska...i think they are perfect and i hope you get yours cheaper than the 640 buchs i paid for mine.......
its worth the peace of mind though.
Either I got a real good deal or I got scammed.... to be continued.... lol...
10mm fan boy
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Hey Bugs,
I went down and got some hydroton and pots. The guy sold me net pots.
He said it is what everyone uses.
Did I fuck up and get the wrong pots?
I asked about the mesh bottom pots, and he said people don't really use those for flood and drain.
Also wasn't sure about the weight, as my tray sits on top of my res. I didn't want to put too much weight on it so I got 5" pots instead of 6". The hydroton probably weighs about the same as wet rockwoll any ways, so the 6"ers shouldn't be a problem.
What height do you think I will get with the 5" pots, and do you think they will be enough? Right now with 4" RW they are about 10"
Thanks
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I went down and got some hydroton and pots. The guy sold me net pots.
He said it is what everyone uses.
Did I fuck up and get the wrong pots?
I asked about the mesh bottom pots, and he said people don't really use those for flood and drain.
Also wasn't sure about the weight, as my tray sits on top of my res. I didn't want to put too much weight on it so I got 5" pots instead of 6". The hydroton probably weighs about the same as wet rockwoll any ways, so the 6"ers shouldn't be a problem.
What height do you think I will get with the 5" pots, and do you think they will be enough? Right now with 4" RW they are about 10"
Thanks
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doogleef
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The guy actually sold you netpots for flood hydro? Crook. Not good. They will work but understand, now you have to fill the WHOLE TRAY with hydroton instead of just the pots. You will not be able to move your plants around. Net pots become nothing more than a stand later in growth.
Regular 6-8" garden pots with the 3-4 holes in the bottom is all that is needed in reality. Walmart garden section has them for cheap.
Regular 6-8" garden pots with the 3-4 holes in the bottom is all that is needed in reality. Walmart garden section has them for cheap.
brontobrandon1
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my plants are in rockwool in hydroton in net pots and do great for sea of green
i mean heres my first grow and there in net pots
i mean heres my first grow and there in net pots
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paperfetti
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..do you just plug that into an outlet?..or is there some in wall wiring going on?
paperfetti
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great advice will do..damn! 2500 bucks?..thats insane..guess i will be waiting on that....anybody familiar with foxfarm nutes (big bloom in paticular) anybody??
GypsyBush
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It plugs into a dryer/range outlet set up for 50 amps/220v...
The 110v cord plugs into a timer and the wall...
When the timer comes on... it energizes the 110v cord which energizes a relay inside the box... which energizes the lights...
Think of the relay as a switch... but instead of your finger turning it on or off, electricity does that...
Did that make sense???
They make 30 amp and 50 amp boxes... google "30 amp timer box" or 50amp...
paperfetti
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IVotedForChange
Active Member
is there any recommended SOG hydro set up that is better for limited height space? i only have about 4' to work with, but by the time the plants are elevated height could be a concern.
GypsyBush
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what I meant was dryer and electric stove...
You need to look at the electrical box and see what is the amperage of the breaker on that outlet...
I am using a range outlet, rated for 50 amps... dryers are usually 30 amps...
Electricity kills... and so do fires... that is why we need to be careful...
GypsyBush
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Follow this man's recipe and you will be very happy with the results...
But you gotta stick to the recipe... only change after you've baked a few cakes...
Best of Luck...
IVotedForChange
Active Member
i have seen that one many times but he explains nothing about his flood and drain table
GypsyBush
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Oh I see.. you need to know how it works...
This .GIF shows a pretty good animation...
And here is a good way to get started with it..
Hope this helps...
From the pages of the... GrowFAQ
How do I make an ebb & flow
How do I make an ebb & flow
hydroponic system?
The goal: To demonstrate the construction of an Ebb & Flow hydroponic system.
The system being constructed is small, however the design is the same as larger systems.
Parts list...
- Restaurant bus tub, 15 1/2" x 20 1/2" x 4 1/2", flood tray.
- Restaurant bus tub, 15 1/2" x 20 1/2" x 7", reservoir.
- Reservoir lid, 15 3/4" x 22".
- Overflow fitting.
- Fill/drain fitting.
- Water pump, 70 gph.
- Tubing, 1/2" ID.
- Aquarium air pump.
- Air stones.
- Green air line.
Notice, in the pictures above, the one inch holes, in the flood tray for the overflow, and fill/drain fittings, also, the two inch holes in the lid, for the fittings to pass through.
A view of the plumbed flood tray with lid. See how it fits over the fittings.
This is a view of the reservoir with lid, and plumbed flood tray.
Here, it's all assembled. The water and air pumps are not shown. The power cord, and air lines fit between, the reservoir and lid. A small notch may need to be added, to avoid pinching the air lines, and to help the flood tray sit level.
Assembled with six 5 1/2" square pots. Notice the easy access to both fittings. The fill/drain fitting has a connector for a 1/2" hose, under the screen. Remove the screen, connect the hose, turn the pump on, and pump out the nutrient solution. Makes reservoir change outs very easy.
Another view of the system.
Note: Choosing a container...
Not all containers are made equal. Some are very sturdy, while others are not. Using a weak container will only lead to failure and a flood. Choose heavy duty containers. Also, some containers will need a center support to keep them level under the weight of the nutrient solution.
Note: About sizes...
The reservoir should be large enough, to hold two, to three times the volume of the flood tray or table. The pump should be sized to flood the tray in 5 min. or less.
grandpabear3
New Member
doogleaf was right on the $$$ and the other guy that did it with net pots
, but that is the exception not the rule. of course it will work but they will never be as big as one....well let's just say his would have been bigger/better if he didnt use them. noone said it wont work. it is not ideal though. air pruning is real folks and it kills roots. you will quickly learnthat if the hydro guys knew what the hell they were talking about they would be growing instead of workin for commision.
grandpabear3
New Member
hey people i just wanted to say that i'm proud of all of us and what we've done with this thread. it kinda turned into a family type setting where we can laugh and fight and ultimately learn. it is just wonderfull and thank you to all of you who help with newcomers. that is part of what killed al's will to go on. and that fucker has infinite patience. none of us are him but we will have grows as good or better from his efforts on this site. (his words , not mine)
GypsyBush
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you will quickly learnthat if the hydro guys knew what the hell they were talking about they would be growing instead of workin for commision.
GypsyBush
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LOL...Wow. A touchy-feely, Bugs. Quick, check his place for UFO's! He's either been anally probed or has grown a vagina.
I think that Bugs, like many of us... misses the hell out of Al ...
I totally understand why, but I wish he hadn't left...
At least the threads are there... Bugs should totally condense them into a FUCT SOG BIBLE...
What do you think?