SOG growers wanted !!!

GypsyBush

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Can someone help me help this dude...

King is a cool cat.. doesn't listen very well, but has come a long way...

He just set up his trays but insists on having media under the pots for "the roots to grow into"...

Hydroton is in both the tops of my pots, n in the trays. The reason it's in the tray is because I couldn't afford the Slabs at the time, n I didn't have anything to cover the trays with so light doesn't hit the roots when they grow out, like a bud blanket or something like that, so I went with what I had. Is there something else I should do?
I have gottne him to dump the hydroton off the tray, but now he thinks he neeeds coco or something....

Can you cruise over and turn the light on... please...

Thanks guys...

Here is his journal....

https://www.rollitup.org/grow-journals/107903-k1ng5p4d3s-cardboard-box-grow-hehe-139.html

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RenegadeGrower

Active Member
I am new to indoor and hydro, I am growing Al B Fuct style SOG. I built a 6x8x7 room and I am running a 2x4 t-5 for veg/clones and a 600W HPS for flower. The room is constructed, but I still hve some tables to put together. I am in the seedling stage with B-52 buds. I will post some pictures for you all soon...I do have a couple questions I thought you might be able to answer...

I am rooting the seedlings in rockwool grow cubes and plan on planting them directly into 8" pots with hydroton rocks as the medium. How high should I flood? Right now I am dpoing the dip method to wet the cubes. A few have popped, waiting for some more roots to show before I put them in pots. Thanks in advance for any words of advice.
 

LoudBlunts

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I am new to indoor and hydro, I am growing Al B Fuct style SOG. I built a 6x8x7 room and I am running a 2x4 t-5 for veg/clones and a 600W HPS for flower. The room is constructed, but I still hve some tables to put together. I am in the seedling stage with B-52 buds. I will post some pictures for you all soon...I do have a couple questions I thought you might be able to answer...

I am rooting the seedlings in rockwool grow cubes and plan on planting them directly into 8" pots with hydroton rocks as the medium. How high should I flood? Right now I am dpoing the dip method to wet the cubes. A few have popped, waiting for some more roots to show before I put them in pots. Thanks in advance for any words of advice.
are you using any medium in the bottom of your flood tray for roots to grow into?

if so, i would at first flood high, then reduce flooding once the roots start coming/plant gets older.

your plant will tell you how much water it wants. just watch it. the first few days, you may need to back off because it is a seedling and you dont wanna risk overwatering


also....you dont think 8" pots is a little too big?

you could come down in size a bit. 3-6" is perfect for sog pots
 

LoudBlunts

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not to mention, you said you will have a 600watter

with that 600watter, i would suggest you go all 3-6" pots

preferrably smaller so you can fit more in under that 600 watter

and just watch for overcrowding.

prune when necessary
 

RenegadeGrower

Active Member
are you using any medium in the bottom of your flood tray for roots to grow into?

if so, i would at first flood high, then reduce flooding once the roots start coming/plant gets older.

your plant will tell you how much water it wants. just watch it. the first few days, you may need to back off because it is a seedling and you dont wanna risk overwatering


also....you dont think 8" pots is a little too big?


you could come down in size a bit. 3-6" is perfect for sog pots
Thanks for the info...I am planting these ones into 8" pots because I plan on them being the mother plants ... so they will be in them for a while until I clone some new moms.

I was going to plant the root cube directly in the hydroton, no other medium. My concern was exactly as you mentioned, the roots are in the root cube , so if I stay 1/2" shy of the RW cube, they wont be able to drink. I guess I should start by fooding so the water just touches the RW and wicks up.

I have spent counless hours reading this forum and I have read Jorge Cervants' Bible, but wading through the forum can sometimes be difficult to find the info I am looking for. Would you suggest I tart a grow journal and post questions there?
 

GypsyBush

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I just make sure my RW cube is pretty much soaked when I transplant, and I have no troubles with the roots not reaching the water...

Every once in a while I get one or two that slack and need a second hand watering... but that is about it...

I would hand water a few times before flooding the cube..

Just my opinion though...

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DeweyKox

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Thats exactly what I do Gypsy. They will eventually grow roots to get to the water source. I place my cubes half inch above water line, and in 2 weeks there shooting off with growth and showing sex!
 

RenegadeGrower

Active Member
I just make sure my RW cube is pretty much soaked when I transplant, and I have no troubles with the roots not reaching the water...

Every once in a while I get one or two that slack and need a second hand watering... but that is about it...

I would hand water a few times before flooding the cube..

Just my opinion though...

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Thats exactly what I do Gypsy. They will eventually grow roots to get to the water source. I place my cubes half inch above water line, and in 2 weeks there shooting off with growth and showing sex!
Thanks guys, what are you using for medium? Also, you use this method with seedlings? A few cubes have single roots popping the bottom, I guess the taproot, think I should just put them in hydroton in the pots and supplement w/ handwatering if needed? Do you guys cover the top of the RW cubes with hydroton or leave exposed?

Thanks to both of you.
 

GypsyBush

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Thanks guys,
:eyesmoke:

what are you using for medium?
Hydroton filled pots and RW cubes above the flood line..

Just like Al B. Fuct's illustration... have you read his threads? you should... all of it... everyone should... :shock:

Get a harvest every 2 weeks
A batch of clones in rockwool
Al B. FAQt





Also, you use this method with seedlings?
I haven't cracked a seed in a while, but I will put it like this...

A plant is a plant and a root is a root, regardless of how it started...

The root will grow and seek out water the same exact way...

A few cubes have single roots popping the bottom, I guess the taproot, think I should just put them in hydroton in the pots and supplement w/ handwatering if needed?
I would wait until you have "profuse" root mass showing...

It will branch out in the cube and become way more than just a single root...

Do you guys cover the top of the RW cubes with hydroton or leave exposed?
I try to, but sometimes they are exposed... haha! fooled ya!

I actually cove my pots with panda film squares, white side up... for many benefits, at a huge pain in the ass factor, but worth it to me...


Thanks to both of you.
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RenegadeGrower

Active Member
Sweet! Yea, I have read his how-to on rooting clones and his SOG op, I modeled my room and op on his approach. Between Cervantes, Al B Fuct, and this forum, I feel like I am getting the infrmation I need to have a successful grow...sometimes, when I get stoned after a long days work, I get a bit paranoid that I might be doing something wrong. Just gotta tell myself, "Chill Winston...it all be alllllriggghtt!"

I noticed the tips of my first true sets of leaves were brown/burned, but I think it is just from a lack of water or the lamp too close. The seedlings are under a standard grow light (HD 250W grobulb) I am thinking of putting them under the 2x4 t-5s but it is alot of wasted light. The cooler temps are my reason for thinking about the switch.
 

onthedl0008

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Wow man lots of good info in here.. Good shit on the wool dudes.Took me forever to figure out that crap. Would also reccomend peat plugs or spounges as well.Very easy to work with. U guys kinda build my ego everytime i drop by. Peace.
 
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