Soil balance pro
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Chunky Stool
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Sounds similar to a product by Roots Organics called "Oregonism XL".So, got me some of this the other day.. anyone else use/used it?
Applied as directed and 2 days later my ladies are smelling incredible!!
Apparently increases terps by 150-500%
Healthy roots = healthy plant.
Nutty sKunK
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Yeah I guess, works by increasing the microbes that work in a symbiotic relationship with the plant to help uptake nutriments.
Only bugger is that it made the nitrogen toxicity that I’m battling much worse. But it’s stopped now since I’ve cut back on the nitrogen
waterproof808
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1.The original msds on their website listed synthetic nutrients in SBP. When they were asked about it they removed the msds and replaced it with one that showed it not containing any synthetic nutrients. Buildasoil had a sample of SBP lab tested and it came back with 11% Nitrogen which explains your nitrogen toxicity.
2.The field tests SBP lists on their website are totally BS. BAS actually contacted a few of the Professors listed on their website and some had never even performed the tests or if they did it was preformed on an entirely different product. The field trials also did not factor in the NPK of the synthetics, so it doesnt really explain if positive results are from the added NPK or actual microbe activity.
3. The supposed terpene increases were based on a inexperienced growers results. The guy went from having 0.17% terpenes to 1.25%, and they claimed this to be a 550% increase in terpenes. 1.25% terpenes is weak and an average grower should be able to beat that without an overpriced additive.
sorry to burst your bubble, but Soil Balance pro was recently exposed by Buildasoil for some pretty suspect things.Yeah I guess, works by increasing the microbes that work in a symbiotic relationship with the plant to help uptake nutriments.
Only bugger is that it made the nitrogen toxicity that I’m battling much worse. But it’s stopped now since I’ve cut back on the nitrogen
1.The original msds on their website listed synthetic nutrients in SBP. When they were asked about it they removed the msds and replaced it with one that showed it not containing any synthetic nutrients. Buildasoil had a sample of SBP lab tested and it came back with 11% Nitrogen which explains your nitrogen toxicity.
2.The field tests SBP lists on their website are totally BS. BAS actually contacted a few of the Professors listed on their website and some had never even performed the tests or if they did it was preformed on an entirely different product. The field trials also did not factor in the NPK of the synthetics, so it doesnt really explain if positive results are from the added NPK or actual microbe activity.
3. The supposed terpene increases were based on a inexperienced growers results. The guy went from having 0.17% terpenes to 1.25%, and they claimed this to be a 550% increase in terpenes. 1.25% terpenes is weak and an average grower should be able to beat that without an overpriced additive.
Nutty sKunK
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My goodness.. well that explains it!!
Well I’m sure there’s some goodness in there regarding microbes. I don’t know the truth here, so I can only guess, like us all. But the has been a positive benifit on a healthy plant so don’t need much more evidence
Just wasn’t aware of the NPK issue.. perhaps lack of proper testing due to funds? Hit and hope attitude? Right idea? Pah, only they know themselves. Thank you so much, you’ve really solved a problem that’s been on my mind. I was about to give them a second does in a weeks time too!
Anyway to rid? Flush wouldn’t work would it?
Take a widdle on them? Saved a scrawny plant in 50f
radiant Rudy
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wow this stinking turd of an accusation has been festering here all this time!
Fact: Jeremy was 100% mistaken and has since apologized and retracted his word shit. He was talking out of his ass.
Fact: soil balance pro is legit. it's widely used by cbd farmers and works great on thc strains as well
Nutty sKunK
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Yeah I’ve used it since and works well.
Lordhooha
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I'll stick with recharge its a good product
radiant Rudy
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@Nutty sKunK
Doesnt it seem like using a few of them is smart? Last run i used Recharge, Soil Balance pro, Photosynthesis Plus, Tanio Spectrum, Sea Green and Urb.
All of them seemed effective in my tiny grow. I dosed lightly and switched up every other watering. Plants did great but I ran into a light issue so no conclusion drawn. In the past Ive used Urb by itself, Seagreen and Recharge by themselves and plant response was visible in a day or two.
Ive got a couple 3 gals fems going. I'm about to pot up to 5 gal. I'll hit with SBP from then on out and see how they respond.
Nutty sKunK
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What I learned is that all that good stuff can be achieved with a healthy soil. Organic is the way to go.
Sure it has its place in transplanting but that’s what I reserve it for now.
radiant Rudy
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I like a scientific approach to confirming "healthy soil". This season i sent off soil samples for biological analysis. Not a mineral analysis test but rather a microbial assay/CO2 measurement.
Many top rated organic farms use microbial innoculation. Innoculation and reinnoculation of microbes by lab created beneficial micro-organisms is widely practiced by farmers around the world.
waterproof808
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I believe the only thing Jeremy apologized for was the 11% nitrogen, which was due to a mix-up from the lab that did the analysis. He said all the other half-truths he pointed out still remain.
radiant Rudy
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#1, it would be appropriate for you to apologize for the load of false shit you laid in post 4
Im not gonna get all forensic about it but Jeremy hasnt got a reputation as the straightest shooter. Also didnt his own microbe concoction appear about the same time as his false claims about SBP?
When i need an expert to disclose the low down on micro bio products jeremy is def not the authoritative, credentialed, qualified or unbiased voice id seek out.
Nutty sKunK
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Actually I was wrong.
This stuff is the fucking tits!!
Anyone want to try a gram I’ll happily PayPal you $5 to try it. Not kidding just PM me.
Stuff is a game changer and the results in flower are in days and I’d love for people to become more aware of this product.
Lordhooha
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I’ve tried it and I’ll still stick to recharge. It’s simple cheap and effective.
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