Some comments concerning Nirvana.

PHRoG

Active Member
Hello folks,

So with the recent complaints about Nirvana, including mine from yesterday, I felt an update was needed.

Yesterday, John was kind enough to personally respond to my thread and we have been in contact outside the forum. I can assure you John does, in fact, work for Nirvana.

I am pleased with the resolution we came to regarding my issue of not receiving my order. I would like to say John is not an unreasonable man by any means.

Regarding the glove thread...Look folks, if I were John, I would be upset about my discreet shipping methods being revealed online. Regardless of how he responded to it, it's obvious he was stunned and wanted it resolved quickly. You would too if you were in his shoes.

Sure law enforcement can order whatever they want in order to catch on to the latest shipping methods...This takes TIME.

First they need reason to do it (like random inspection catching one). Next they have to place the order, which means they need to approve an identity and address for it to be sent to, this takes time as well. Then they have to wait to get it. Then do all the proper procedures for processing that. Now they have to send out notification to everyone for specifics on what to look for.

All this takes a enormous amount of time, you all know how slow the US Govt. is at things. It's this time that your packages *ARE* getting through.

Anyone that orders seeds online for shipment to the states and doesn't understand there is a certain amount of risk involved is absolutely nuts or just plain dumb. You can't place the blame on Nirvana for this, it is beyond their control.

For those of you that order larger amounts, I admit that it's gotta hurt pretty bad to have one of those nabbed. I suggest placing several smaller orders throughout several days in order to minimize your risk of a total loss.

About John's demeanor. Quite simply, he got pushed and he pushed back. He was simply trying to protect his business, just like any of you would do.

My best advice I can give you is that if you are a victim of your seeds deciding to vacation elsewhere, contact the vendor with professionalism. Don't shoot of an email saying, "yo dog i aint got my shit, you ripped me you cocksuckers, send my shit!". Be polite and give them the opportunity to take care of you. Such as, "Hello there, I placed my order about 6 weeks ago on [date] and they hit step 7 of 7 on [date]. It has been 5 weeks now and I have yet to receive my order. I also have (or have not) received a customs letter (also known as a love letter). Could you look into this and get back to me? Thanks a bunch, [name used to place order]".

Now, they might take care of you...They might not. You knew it was a risk when you ordered, you can't be angry at them because it "happened to you". I do, however, guarantee you that you will have a much higher success rate by remaining professional throughout the process than by being an ass.

You also get a much higher chance or ensuring your next order will go through. Now they know that the packaging has been compromised and they need to switch things up. Like John said, it's a cat and mouse game.

Nirvana is nice enough to sponsor RIU and give us a free playground to run on and advance the art of cannabis cultivation. Yes, they do this for profit, that can only be expected. However, I am positive Nirvana would get along just fine without it.

In my opinion, this is the absolute best forum. The information is priceless and there are loads of people willing to help you out. The ingenuity of everyone here is simply amazing.

Moral of the story, Jesus says, "Don't be a dick.". Take a toke, sit back and relax. It's not the end of the world folks.

:joint: Peace.
 

HippieMan

Well-Known Member
Agree with every word. Nirvana has some good genetics as well, yall are bullshitting yourself if ya think otherwise. Citral owns man!
 

PHRoG

Active Member
john called a paying customer an asshole. therefore does not deserve to have a business or even be acknowledged as a sales person. good business is what built this capitalist country, so therefore, bad business could very well be "the end of the world".
Yes, he did...Guess what? I've called some of my customers assholes to their faces as well.

He's human, it happens. If you have moral quandaries with his actions, more power to you. I sure as hell am not going to let that effect my pocket book or my grow. They have good genes, I've seen it myself. Also, a friend of mine just got 50/50 fem/male ratio from his last order and 100% germination. They have great prices and typically have a good reputation for getting your products to you. Why on earth would you punish yourself? You think you and few other people not ordering are going to break them? Think again.

He had a whole helluva-lot of ambiguity to deal with in that thread. People get pissed off, it happens, if you are so distraught you simply can't get over it, take a few more hits man.
 

Twistyman

Well-Known Member
I saw the post with the "method" included.. THe guy's a flaming asshole... You give away my secrets about my "passtime" and getting told off (which he needed) will be the least of your worries. To put all THIS at risk is beyond comprehension......never mind fucking stupid....stupid is as stupid does
 

hemlockstones

Well-Known Member
i will do business with nirvana again, i cant say i would of been as kind as john in his position if someone was releasing my "trade secrets".
people need to learn discretion.. in case they forgot.. what we are doing IS illegal in A LOT of places.

if you read this John... THANKS FOR THE AK48 and WW, very strong plants, very happy with the whole transaction!
 

panhead

Well-Known Member
john called a paying customer an asshole. therefore does not deserve to have a business or even be acknowledged as a sales person. good business is what built this capitalist country, so therefore, bad business could very well be "the end of the world".
Bullshit,what your calling good business translates into kissing ass from irate & demanding customers,a salesman is no less a man simply because he needs a customers business.

Just last week i canceled the results of an ebay auction where the buyer used a buy it now for a $9,500 auction, then wanted to act like i owed him something,he demanded free shipping with 2nd day air & wanted to pay me with paypal,im not selling him anything & now he's crying to ebay trying to get them to force me to sell to him,he was an asshole now he's not getting anything from me.

Just because a person is a customer does not give them some kind of carte blanche to act a fool,that customer is always right shit dont count for anything with me.
 

Twistyman

Well-Known Member
Unless that person is risking jail to help you get or stay high....... May their twistys burn true...
 

OSHiT

Well-Known Member
john called a paying customer an asshole. therefore does not deserve to have a business or even be acknowledged as a sales person. good business is what built this capitalist country, so therefore, bad business could very well be "the end of the world".
i hope this guy gets hit by a car :mrgreen:
 

JohnnyBravo

Well-Known Member
Since you say that john IS from nirvana....I wonder why he got involved with this particular thread.....I've really chewed some guy's asses for posting nirvana's shipping methods...(It is my biggest pet peave here at RIU)....never seen john around any of those threads.....PS John sorry I called you out....Guess I would have lost some money:)
 

PHRoG

Active Member
Since you say that john IS from nirvana....I wonder why he got involved with this particular thread.....I've really chewed some guy's asses for posting nirvana's shipping methods...(It is my biggest pet peave here at RIU)....never seen john around any of those threads.....PS John sorry I called you out....Guess I would have lost some money:)
If I recall correctly, he stated that several people pointed it out to him. That thread in particular went spiraling out of control fast and became fairly popular. I did not read other threads where you have chewed on anyone, so I don't know how out of hand those got. I would assume this is the reason.

All I can say is that I am glad he did decide to make an appearance. I have exchanged a few emails with John and he is a pleasure to do business with.

:joint:
 

ALX420

Well-Known Member
i am not a violent person. just a very disrespectful comment. why would you wish that on someone?
 
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