stories about people protecting themselves and others with guns

Mr Neutron said:
How many crimes are averted by someone just showing their firearm, without firing a shot? 90% of the time, that is all that is needed to change the perps mind and those never make into the news.
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You have just now given us the answer to this whole gun problem then Neutron!

If we have our guns in order to protect ourselves, and 90 percent of the time just the sight of tht weapon is enough to protect us, then all we need to do is distribute realistic replicas - of course there needs to be a few real ones mixed in but we could collect 80 percent of all weapons and replace them, for free.
 
kelly4 said:
Number 2.

You forget that I am not part of the right. How many times do I have to remind you of that?
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Check out that part in parens Kelly - where it says "I don't necessarily mean you" - seems that your taking things out of context sometimes means actually removing them completely.
 
canndo said:
Check out that part in parens Kelly - where it says "I don't necessarily mean you" - seems that your taking things out of context sometimes means actually removing them completely.
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"Not necessarily you" still leaves the option open to meaning me. If you would have left that part out altogether, I would have known you weren't talking about me since I am not a Republican. The way you wrote it says you might be talking about me.

You're the one who wrote it that way...don't get mad at me for it.
 
canndo said:
You have just now given us the answer to this whole gun problem then Neutron!

If we have our guns in order to protect ourselves, and 90 percent of the time just the sight of tht weapon is enough to protect us, then all we need to do is distribute realistic replicas - of course there needs to be a few real ones mixed in but we could collect 80 percent of all weapons and replace them, for free.
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We? Will you use guns against people when you collect guns?
 
canndo said:
It doesn't matter to me because... it is there, the reasoning doesnt' matter, the reasoning is likely not sound any longer anyway
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I ask for even 1 example of the reasoning behind the bill of rights that are no longer sound. Just 1.
 
Ninjabowler said:
Your proving my point, you say it right in your second sentence "manditory sentences". These are the posted rules and its a good idea to stay within them if possible. Most of us including myself dance on the line daily. Im not supporting the govenments laws in this instance im only pointing them out. RIU is supposed to point out growing errors and i belive that this is a HUGE error. Everyday theres another gun thread making RIU members look like a bunch of gun finatics and lessening our legal credibility. Guns are cool, i love mine, but if i wanted to talk about them all day id be on a different website than this. Im a pot user therefore really not trying to start conflict here but it would be nice to go just one day without seeing a post about guns....what if i say pleeeze?.....pretty pleeeze with a cherry on top?
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This is a politics debate area. The current national debate is about guns and gun violence. This conversation comes and goes, currently it is here. When the national debate was about national health care, lots of threads were promoted having the subject of health care.


This debate will pass as well, and I believe it will be overtaken with the debt ceiling.
 
lifegoesonbrah said:
If you call the failure of prohibition precedence then go for it. Sounds like something you would do.
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You can play with semantics if you wish, the point is that there is a precidence for limiting the purchase of small amounts of legal things.

Are you calling the practice of selling only small amounts of ephedrine prohibition?
 
ginwilly said:
I respectfully disagree. I think the WHY is the most important detail(s) when we consider changes to the constitution. If we don't misunderstand, ignore, or misinterpret history we can eliminate repeating the same mistakes that have been made throughout history.

While its true that there are regional differences we all share in the fact that man is fallible.
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Are we considering changing the 2nd amendment? I have not heard anything in that direction. If we have to ask WHY the founders did something then that thing isn't obvious in the first place. I should think it quite obvious that the founders intended for us to independently and in groups, to be able to defend ourselves. (and I suppose to be able to feed ourselves but the Constitution being what it is, I don't think they paid special heed to hunters)
 
canndo said:
Do you? I'm not so sure.
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Of course you don't agree. You are a concern troll. You just know that your decisions about other people's lives are better and more virtuous than their own decisions about their own lives. If only everybody would just listen to you they would be so much better off.
 
canndo said:
It is no longer sound to consider that individuals being armed is a deterrent to governmental tyranny.
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did you not read the link WinterWoman posted? How about localities. They have way more influence over my day to day lives than federal and are not privy to drones and nuclear warheads. Watch how police break up parties at the hunting club compared to how they break up a graduation party. Armed citizens are treated way more respectful by authorities.
 
canndo said:
You have just now given us the answer to this whole gun problem then Neutron!

If we have our guns in order to protect ourselves, and 90 percent of the time just the sight of tht weapon is enough to protect us, then all we need to do is distribute realistic replicas - of course there needs to be a few real ones mixed in but we could collect 80 percent of all weapons and replace them, for free.
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Except for that pesky constitution. Repeal 2A, then we can move on to a real discussion about sacrificing virgins in the volcano to improve crop yield.
 
lifegoesonbrah said:
The MSM ignores the other side of the story:
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the MSM also ignores when i drive my car from point A to B without incident, but i promise i'll be on the evening news if my car catches fire on the middle of the burnside bridge!

gee, i wonder why?

the gun crowd will totally not get why.
 
Ninjabowler said:
I have guns, i have a carry permit for them also. Id rather have a gun and not need it than need it and not have it. That being said, I have absolutly no idea why there is so many posts about guns on a growing site. Ive read numerous court cases where legal marijuana growers were charged because police found guns in or near the growing area. Guns only make you look like more of a criminal in the courts eyes even if you are legal. Its just another piece of evidence for the prosecution. Food for thought.... :):):)
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Yeah, I don't know why there are so many posts about it.

Problem is, growers in particular have to worry about security - they generally have lots of cash / valuables, can't use alarms and can't call the cops if shit goes down. You pretty much have to decide whether your more afraid of jail or thieves, then arm yourself accordingly.
 
UncleBuck said:
the MSM also ignores when i drive my car from point A to B without incident, but i promise i'll be on the evening news if my car catches fire on the middle of the burnside bridge!

gee, i wonder why?

the gun crowd will totally not get why.
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If you saved someones life with your car then you might.
 
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