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Tangerine_

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UpstateRecGrower said:
I was thinking all of these sister sites aka neptune have the same nurseries? All of my orders have been from the cuts club but they've been shipped from MI and MA. One time I got a duplicate order, Ice pie, came in the mail from MI then the next day I received another one from MA. I did say it from the start however, that their "testing" is just a sales pitch, they aren't testing for viroids, I mean they could be but I just assumed they're making it up and printing up the lab themselves but who knows.. That sucks that your clone was legit dudded, now I gotta question all my gear from them..
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Add Rhode Island to that list too. I cant be certain, but I "think" *they* (as in Neptune and Tiki) employ a few different nurseries. They supply the genetics and leave it to the nurseries to distribute?
The Cuts Club, Healthy Made Clones, King Kong Clones, and Godzilla Clones.
There could be others, but those are the four I'm aware of.


I've added Zerotol 2.0 to my arsenal to help prevent cross contamination. So far so good. Just keep an eye on your clones and be diligent with your IPM and sanitation. And be very mindful of all vectors. With these viroid's its imperative to only keep and grow healthy plants.

Many will talk a big game but very few have clean verified genetics. Its a shame really and now I feel like I'm throwing a negative vibe on this thread. Not my intent. Just want all my growmies have healthy headache-free harvest :hug:bongsmilie
 
CaliWorthington

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Tangerine_ said:
Add Rhode Island to that list too. I cant be certain, but I "think" *they* (as in Neptune and Tiki) employ a few different nurseries. They supply the genetics and leave it to the nurseries to distribute?
The Cuts Club, Healthy Made Clones, King Kong Clones, and Godzilla Clones.
There could be others, but those are the four I'm aware of.


I've added Zerotol 2.0 to my arsenal to help prevent cross contamination. So far so good. Just keep an eye on your clones and be diligent with your IPM and sanitation. And be very mindful of all vectors. With these viroid's its imperative to only keep and grow healthy plants.

Many will talk a big game but very few have clean verified genetics. Its a shame really and now I feel like I'm throwing a negative vibe on this thread. Not my intent. Just want all my growmies have healthy headache-free harvest :hug:bongsmilie
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I asked Neptune if they were affiliated with HM Clones and they said "No, try King Kong Clones next time."
 
Tangerine_

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CaliWorthington said:
I asked Neptune if they were affiliated with HM Clones and they said "No, try King Kong Clones next time."
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Hmmm, I have no idea if they're being upfront in their response. Maybe its just a coincidence they all drop nearly identical menus at the same time. I know the link Neptune supplies now takes users to King Kong and not the others. But, the cuts I received from The Cuts Club came with Neptunes labels and so did the replacements from HM clones.
Shady shady :wink:
 
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Manidoo

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There's more than one person making great cuts available and it is not any different with the seed business. It's just a fact that there's more nonsense and bullshit within this then necessary. Nobody should have to be limited to one or two outlets considering the sheer amount of diversity we seek.

All I'm saying is it's just ridiculous anymore regardless of the name and fame. Pretty much just buying scratch off lottery tickets anymore be it clone only or seeds. So it's better to let others know who's the trustworthy and who's not. Not everyone has a good hook-up but everyone deserves one
 
Manidoo

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Even the most trusted sources fade into time as every person that thinks that they have Cannabis StarDumb fades away, and one by one those Trusted sources only last for so long and like with Pokemon nobody can catch em all. So we deal with the smoke and it will just grow thicker regardless though. If I limited myself and didn't take risks I would have never been able to collect and work with the magnitude of genetics I have and continue to work with
 
Manidoo

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Hey for the followers looking for a supplier with Integrity- Aunty Jane intervened without a shrug to reach out and ask if by chance it was them unknowingly that sent me PM!

Of course it was not Aunty Jane or anyone else that has a label. Just another growr most likely unaware of the way it works and is suppressing it is all even though they know it has been a ongoing on and off issue in their setup. I've seen it all throughout the decades and nothing surprises me
 
Dividedsky

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Tangerine_ said:
Valuing trusted sources =/= limited
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Tang read what happened with you man that fucking sucks dude. I feel ya. I went thru something similar, though I didn't get any virus or pests with cut I bought- nothing like that. Just paid for what I thought was a legit breeders cut and it ended up being trash, ran it twice cause I thought it might have been me not being used to feeding what the cut needed and nope it's just it sucked. My buddy also ran it and it also sucked for it him. Cut was $350 and has made me very weary of grabbing online clones from vendors. Feel like you're better off chatting with your fellow growers and trading with them. I'm so lucky also because I almost did a full room run with that cut and that really would have set me back huge.
 
Dividedsky

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UpstateRecGrower said:
The Tropicana cookies mtn cut I got was legit as far as i could tell.. I haven't heard anything bad about pink so far except a several pages back or so a guy ordered Tropicana cherry and it looks like got Tropicana cookies, both have initials T.C. so I am guessing thats why, but from what I understand pink sorta blew him off which isnt cool..
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I want to know about the vendor with the trop cherry cuts. Alien blood genetix is one of the breeders. Has only 4 reviews so would probably stay away.
By the way if I ordered a trop cherry and got a trop cookies, I'd be pissed.
 
ItsIntheGenectics

ItsIntheGenectics

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Manidoo said:
Even the most trusted sources fade into time as every person that thinks that they have Cannabis StarDumb fades away, and one by one those Trusted sources only last for so long and like with Pokemon nobody can catch em all. So we deal with the smoke and it will just grow thicker regardless though. If I limited myself and didn't take risks I would have never been able to collect and work with the magnitude of genetics I have and continue to work with
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I agree with being limited but a trusted source will out live the scum. jmo. We the growers have to help each other sort the good and bad. Think like Green House Seed co. I would not recommend them to my worst enemy, but breeders like Cannarado, Archive, and CSI. I would recommend to anyone looking for a legit breeder. I have first hand experience with those said breeders. How did I come across said breeders? Reading reviews and doing my homework. If you feel lucky gamble but with a limited number of plants, I can't gamble on an unknown.
 
mudballs

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Manidoo said:
There's more than one person making great cuts available and it is not any different with the seed business. It's just a fact that there's more nonsense and bullshit within this then necessary. Nobody should have to be limited to one or two outlets considering the sheer amount of diversity we seek.

All I'm saying is it's just ridiculous anymore regardless of the name and fame. Pretty much just buying scratch off lottery tickets anymore be it clone only or seeds. So it's better to let others know who's the trustworthy and who's not. Not everyone has a good hook-up but everyone deserves one
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that's why im lurking this thread...bout the best place ur gonna find a self governed community of weed nerds to help sort out the good vs. bad. Im very far off from even remotely considering buying a $200 clone but it's nice to see this level of experience coming together and judging the horses in the stalls before i go there. I'm to the point that no matter what i buy or who i buy it from i might as well call it "Unknown Indica" or "Unknown hybrid" cuz while i may be able to trust the person behind the screen i cant be sure the genetics are accurately tracked.
TNSB(Canuk Seeds) Do-Si-Dos is just B.C.Bud Depot Animal Cookies with a different wrapper....pisses me off.
 
Manidoo

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ItsIntheGenectics said:
I agree with being limited but a trusted source will out live the scum. jmo. We the growers have to help each other sort the good and bad. Think like Green House Seed co. I would not recommend them to my worst enemy, but breeders like Cannarado, Archive, and CSI. I would recommend to anyone looking for a legit breeder. I have first hand experience with those said breeders. How did I come across said breeders? Reading reviews and doing my homework. If you feel lucky gamble but with a limited number of plants, I can't gamble on an unknown.
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Without digress, I have been growing for over 30 years and breeding since 91. With that said I actually recall some really awesome finds back in the day within Arjans (Greenhouse Seeds) and I would not buy anything from the company today- same thing with 99% of the Dutch offerings.

What defines a legit breeder varies from person to person and skill level is often covered up by the hype and branding. If one does a little more doxing than just a basic study they're going to find a lot of complaints about Archive, Cannarado and even CSI for herms and piss poor engineering/breeding even when it comes down to the selection and what is/was released by these suppliers. The best of the breeders don't sell their own work, it's too precious and not a commodity based thing like with a lot of the three's offerings your referencing as solid. CSI just let's loose a lot of seeds he makes for himself after exploring the S1. I like Nspecta though out of the three, zero drama and he's quick to dispell nonsense

It's all about the risk no matter what you buy, read or hear. I've combed through packs of the three mentioned breeders and I have zero qualms about saying that I found nothing special in any of it all. There's a grand down the drain and in the compost pile. Same thing with the majority of the cuts floating around nowadays- compost..

So back to the drawing board. There's nothing but a few things I can say that I want anymore and I'm certain that it's going to be a risk of my own to obtain such. But hey everyday is a gamble if you step outside of the house and this is my analogy for the way it works regardless of what reputation may be printed on the front page- read deeper and your going to find that there's good and bad in just about everything sold to us all...
 
Manidoo

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mudballs said:
that's why im lurking this thread...bout the best place ur gonna find a self governed community of weed nerds to help sort out the good vs. bad. Im very far off from even remotely considering buying a $200 clone but it's nice to see this level of experience coming together and judging the horses in the stalls before i go there. I'm to the point that no matter what i buy or who i buy it from i might as well call it "Unknown Indica" or "Unknown hybrid" cuz while i may be able to trust the person behind the screen i cant be sure the genetics are accurately tracked.
TNSB(Canuk Seeds) Do-Si-Dos is just B.C.Bud Depot Animal Cookies with a different


wrapper....pisses me off.
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Ersatz and rebranding, even worse then the copy cat. BC really showed true colors long ago when they attempted to rebrand Free Leonard. Worst thing they could have done within the old-school community. It was the last straw for many!


I concur and totally feel the same, it's why I watch the thread and chime in. It's best to see and hear that truth regardless of what we like or dislike. 99% of the shit online usually is just half truth at best so everyone has to really make that final call themselves while taking a risk and chance at the odds or evens. There's really very little of anything nowadays that is stable and I am not just referencing sexual stability- we want stability in every way possible.
 
Dividedsky

Dividedsky

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Manidoo said:
Without digress, I have been growing for over 30 years and breeding since 91. With that said I actually recall some really awesome finds back in the day within Arjans (Greenhouse Seeds) and I would not buy anything from the company today- same thing with 99% of the Dutch offerings.

What defines a legit breeder varies from person to person and skill level is often covered up by the hype and branding. If one does a little more doxing than just a basic study they're going to find a lot of complaints about Archive, Cannarado and even CSI for herms and piss poor engineering/breeding even when it comes down to the selection and what is/was released by these suppliers. The best of the breeders don't sell their own work, it's too precious and not a commodity based thing like with a lot of the three's offerings your referencing as solid. CSI just let's loose a lot of seeds he makes for himself after exploring the S1. I like Nspecta though out of the three, zero drama and he's quick to dispell nonsense

It's all about the risk no matter what you buy, read or hear. I've combed through packs of the three mentioned breeders and I have zero qualms about saying that I found nothing special in any of it all. There's a grand down the drain and in the compost pile. Same thing with the majority of the cuts floating around nowadays- compost..

So back to the drawing board. There's nothing but a few things I can say that I want anymore and I'm certain that it's going to be a risk of my own to obtain such. But hey everyday is a gamble if you step outside of the house and this is my analogy for the way it works regardless of what reputation may be printed on the front page- read deeper and your going to find that there's good and bad in just about everything sold to us all...
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100% agree with you on pretty much everything. Lots of people forget the Greenhouse Seed Co and Shanti and Mr Nice especially were at the forefront of breeding modern cannabis in the 90s and more so- they were getting the seeds to homegrowers. All though I also wouldn't buy from Dutch breeders these days(except Karma genetics/I think they're Dutch) but do have to acknowledge the Dutch for what they did progressing the whole cannabis laws/scene and culture in general. Though must add-I think alot of the Dutch capitalized on Cali growers who went over there in the 70s with their genetics fleeing harsh weed laws and possible prison sentences. Not surprising seeing as the Dutch are known to be very clever at business.

Thing is if your looking for something special-you're better off just hunting packs of seeds yourself, that's were you'll find a true gem that would blow the doors off a so called "breeder" cuts. Chances are if you are buying what's labeled a breeders cut it is mostly likey not a breeders cut. A breeder is not going to want to give out their prized female stock that they might still be using and making crosses with, no way. It's easy for someone to say so though. Also nowadays the next big cut could be in a pack of seeds you're running- look at the very expensive clone going around right now-white truffle, it's going for $1000+ for 1 cut- The white truffle came from a lil seed company called Fresh Coast Genetics out of Michigan. The white truffle is actually fresh coast's gorilla butter, it literally came from a seed of fresh coast's genetics gorilla butter which is- gorilla glue #4 x Peanut butter breath, couple years ago you could get a pack of the Gorilla Butter for under $100- my buddy ran it and it was fire.

If you want something that is usually only in cut form there's few breeders that probably have s1 of said cut like csi who is awesome and trusted for reversed genetics.
 
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