sugar and molassis in your water?

Dahighone

Member
Ive heard of people putting molassis and sugar in with the water they feed their plants why would someone do this?
 

homebrewer

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Don't bother with either of them unless you're running beneficials. Posts like the one sticky wrote continue to perpetuate the idea that the plants themselves benefit from the sugar to a point of a noticeable difference, which they don't.
 

stickybob

Active Member
no, what i said is the plant feeds off the sugar, i never stated it would make a bebeficial or noticable difference, and no, it wont make your bud taste sweeter
 

stickybob

Active Member
Plant have a limited ability to pull up sugar from the soil................. if its limited their doing it right;) wheres bricktop when you need him!
 

Medi 1

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ya and if we suplement it then they dont need to make their own and can do work on other things it needs. every single carb on the market is sugar or molasses based but they are all wrong????...sorry we are all wrong...
 

420God

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ya and if we suplement it then they dont need to make their own and can do work on other things it needs. every single carb on the market is sugar or molasses based but they are all wrong????...sorry we are all wrong...
Off topic:

Is that why hydro grows so much faster than soil?........because the roots grow so much easier and energy is used elsewhere?
 

asafan69

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The purpose of molasses is to feed the beneficial bacteria of the soil and you can add it at any time during the growth or bloom stage. It has nothing to do with the plant itself other than aiding it in the uptake of nutrients and it should be done sparingly.
 

Medi 1

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no. cause the food is available faster as there is no medium. we dont use organics in hydro and in soil using organics the food must be cenverted beofre the plant can uptake it. thius is why organics are slower. we use sythetics in hydro and has already been made into a food form.
in hydro there is no medium to support microbial life so using molasses or others is a waste and usulay just clogs lines anywas.
 

420God

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no. cause the food is available faster as there is no medium. we dont use organics in hydro and in soil using organics the food must be cenverted beofre the plant can uptake it. thius is why organics are slower. we use sythetics in hydro and has already been made into a food form.
in hydro there is no medium to support microbial life so using molasses or others is a waste and usulay just clogs lines anywas.
Ahhh, I was always wondering why hydro grows are faster and bigger. I never really looked into it but was always curious, thank you!!
 

homebrewer

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ya and if we suplement it then they dont need to make their own and can do work on other things it needs. every single carb on the market is sugar or molasses based but they are all wrong????...sorry we are all wrong...
What? First of all, those sugary sweet nutes out there either contain essential elements or feed the microbes, or both. Those of you who don't understand a little bit about how plants work probably use those additives to 'sweeten' your product or 'lighten the work load for the plant so it can do other things'. :lol: Regardless of what you've been told, sugars feed to soil/microbes, not the plant.
 

Medi 1

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oh, well according to the bio chemist that does our recipes its more than that,.ill stick to his info.
each sugr source does a diff job. 1 we use is triacantonal, this one helps stimulate flowering hormones.,it stimulates phtosythesus, increase chlorophyll content,. increase in cell density, increase in co2 assimilation. theres more but could go on for a bit here.
 

homebrewer

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oh, well according to the bio chemist that does our recipes its more than that,.ill stick to his info.
each sugr source does a diff job. 1 we use is triacantonal, this one helps stimulate flowering hormones.,it stimulates phtosythesus, increase chlorophyll content,. increase in cell density, increase in co2 assimilation. theres more but could go on for a bit here.
Well my info is coming from a professor of horticulture and crop science at the local university with 25 years of research and a doctorate in the field. Your source is who again? ;) If you and your coworker are still confused, this is a good read on sugars, NPK values of molasses and other related topics.

You may or may not be able to follow the link, if not just cut and paste: https://www.rollitup.org/organics/378566-molasses-npk-ratio.html
 

Medi 1

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ah i see your right and our company is worng then...ok. ive done skoolin to and most is old outdated info they teach as new books cost to much. im also a jounreyman auto painter and they still teach stuff from the 70`s and that shit isnt even on the market anymore..i dont care if you dont want to believe or not. just passing out current info for those that want it.

you say you get info from a proff but yet post links to stoner forums..didnt realize gardenscure was a univercity.
 

homebrewer

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ah i see your right and our company is worng then...ok. ive done skoolin to and most is old outdated info they teach as new books cost to much. im also a jounreyman auto painter and they still teach stuff from the 70`s and that shit isnt even on the market anymore..i dont care if you dont want to believe or not. just passing out current info for those that want it.

you say you get info from a proff but yet post links to stoner forums..didnt realize gardenscure was a univercity.
Garden secure wasn't my link and many companies are wrong.

Maybe your coworker has links to a research paper somewhere stating the direct benefits of sugar on plants?
 

Medi 1

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1-Triacontanol




Product Name:1-Triacontanol

Synonyms:
Melissyl alcohol; 1-Hydroxytriacontane; Triacon-10

Molecular Formula:
C30H62O

Molecular Weight:
438.82

CAS Registry Number:
?593-50-0

EINECS:
209-794-5

Specifications:

1-Triacontanol(C30) 90%Min GC

Appearance White powder

Sieve Analysis 100% pass 80mesh

Melting Point 85-87¡æ

Solubility Insoluble in water,

Soluble in hot

hydrocarbon, alcohol and chloroform.

Loss on Drying 0.5% Max

Residue on Ignition 0.1% Max

Heavy Metals (Pb) 10ppm Max

Arsenic (As2O3) 1.5ppm Max

Pesticide Negative

Application:
In 1977 the first observations of Triacontanols growth enhancing effects were published in the USA by Dr. S.K. Ries in Michigan State University. After this, research has been made all over the world, with the most important results of latter years coming from USA and Japan. Triacontanol is a linear saturated fatty alcohol as plant growth stimulator found in the plant cuticle waxes, which is healthy and safe for human and animal use. Its efficiency is proved for high yield in the case of number of field crops like rice, wheat, tomatoes, maize, lettuce, cucumber, potatoes, cauliflower, etc. The best results have been extremely impressive and have given over 100% increases in yields. For a long time it was unknown what caused the growth-improving effect of triacontanol. The latest researches suggest that triacontanol directly activates the genes that control photosynthesis. These genes in turn activate the enzymes controlling the chemistry of photosynthesis.



huh..heres one form your univercity even.....http://www.gardenscure.com/420/non-fertilizer-additives/27632-triacontanol-cellular-division.html


http://www.plantphysiol.org/cgi/reprint/61/5/855.pdf


for non belivers post up and ill throw down some more
 
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