crazyMIman
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A bill that would classify synthetic forms of marijuana as a schedule 1 controlled substance was approved unanimously in the Michigan Senate today. Is this true? and Do you believe its right?
Synthetic Marijuana. Legal Or Illegal?
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TheWesterner
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What do you mean synthetic like Marinol or what?
Nullis
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He is probably talking about K2, Spice, etc. This isn't really 'synthetic marijuana', those chemicals are not synthetic cannabinoids but naphthoylindole compounds. Media doesn't know what they are talking about, as usual. They just want to sensationalize/demonize whatever they can and this stuff is an easy target. It doesn't matter whether it is 'right'; it just doesn't matter.
Soon enough, some chemist in a far away lab will synthesize some other obscure psychoactive compound which someone else will find a way to market as some other novelty product. One not intended for human consumption, of course.
Until then the kids, probationers and curious psychonauts everywhere will scavenge for others ways to get their kicks and not have it appear on a drug test, or they'll all get drunk instead. Or maybe they'll just smoke ganja like they should. Any of that will do, as opposed to putting pressure on their politicians and local elected officials, or running for office themselves or in any other manner striving to bring about needed social change and release the stigma of getting 'high'.
Soon enough, some chemist in a far away lab will synthesize some other obscure psychoactive compound which someone else will find a way to market as some other novelty product. One not intended for human consumption, of course.
Until then the kids, probationers and curious psychonauts everywhere will scavenge for others ways to get their kicks and not have it appear on a drug test, or they'll all get drunk instead. Or maybe they'll just smoke ganja like they should. Any of that will do, as opposed to putting pressure on their politicians and local elected officials, or running for office themselves or in any other manner striving to bring about needed social change and release the stigma of getting 'high'.
crazyMIman
Active Member
That is what im talking about. but the chemicals that are in K2, spice, king krypto etc. are in fact "synthetic". they were made by someone in a lab ( the werent grown) i didnt ask anyone to be a dick? the choices that the youth make have nothing to do with what i asked. getting drunk and smoking incense isnt just for the youth, many many adults i know smoke and drink just as much as teenagers these days. but thanks for the input haha
TheWesterner
Member
I know what synthetic means -.- I just never heard of any of those other things "K2,Spice,King Krypto"
crazyMIman
Active Member
Sorry thewesterner i wasn't directing any of that toward you. all K2, spice, king krypto and stuff like that is is a chemical that was produced in a lab, that is technically legal because it doesn't have the same chemical make-up as THC that you would find in marijuana. the point of these products was to basically make a legal marijuana
Nullis
Moderator
Sure they are synthetic, but the compounds themselves (JWH-018 ) are not cannabinoids, they are naphthoylindole compounds. If it was synthetic 'marijuana' it would already be illegal due to the Analogue Act.
It would be too complicated for the media to explain to people that K2/Spice is actually "herbal material laced with chemicals such as the naphthoylindole JWH-018, intended to mimic the effects of marijuana". So instead they say "synthetic marijuana" and your public reaction is, of course:
marijuana?! synthetic?!! ohh nooo, anything but that!
it must be so much more EVIL than natural marijuana!
Quick senators, we must use all of our legislative resources and outlaw this stuff PRONTO!
Someone call Dr. Phil! our children are smoking synthetic marijuana now!
It is 5x more potent than the synthetic marijuana that we had growing up. That means it is really bad and so we're definitely not hypocrites.
WAR! FAMINE! DEATH! TERRORISTS! SYNTHETIC MARI-JUANA!
It would be too complicated for the media to explain to people that K2/Spice is actually "herbal material laced with chemicals such as the naphthoylindole JWH-018, intended to mimic the effects of marijuana". So instead they say "synthetic marijuana" and your public reaction is, of course:
marijuana?! synthetic?!! ohh nooo, anything but that! it must be so much more EVIL than natural marijuana!
Quick senators, we must use all of our legislative resources and outlaw this stuff PRONTO!
Someone call Dr. Phil! our children are smoking synthetic marijuana now!
It is 5x more potent than the synthetic marijuana that we had growing up. That means it is really bad and so we're definitely not hypocrites.
WAR! FAMINE! DEATH! TERRORISTS! SYNTHETIC MARI-JUANA!
crazyMIman
Active Member
hahahahahaha thats some good shit. but its kinda ridiculous that they're outlawing everything now
Synthetic cannabinoids would typically be products of the pharmaceutical industry (like marinol). There's a whole giant list of them, mostly developed by companies like eli lilly and others. One company derived what they thought was an alternative to aspirin for swelling and pain relief, then they dropped it when CB receptors were discovered and it was found their drug (though not a cannabinoid itself) bonded with the same CB receptors as cannabis, and they dropped the program. Anyway, spice and all that synthetic stuff isn't synthetic cannabinoids. Where I live they tried to remove those products from head stores based on a law stating that using any substance which cases a psychoactive response is illegal. After the first day of their enforcement effort (ceace and decist letters), the county DA instructed the police not to apply the law to spice, so it's back to being sold again.