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Hello, just wonder if you can judge by the size of these little green monsters how much longer I should veg? Or how much longer before I can sex them......

Questions, comments are welcomed. I apologize in advance about the camera quality

I forgot to add they're at 20 days in veg. Also I am about to add their first nutes and am extremely nervous about it.

Well, if you flower them now, they'll end up around 2' when finished, maybe a little more. As for sexing them, you can wait another 2 weeks on your current light schedule, and pick out the males, without switching to 12/12. The switch is an unnecessary delay,(unless you plan to keep them on 12/12 til they're finished) if you know what to look for in veg. Do some research on preflowers, and you'll be able to weed out the males early. Lemme see if I still have those pics here, that I took at around week 5 of veg, late last fall.....

Nevermind that first pic, that isn't mine, and it's really hard to see the preflower. The second one is my own, at about 5 weeks veg, with the female preflower showing, and circled. That's what you're looking for, and not long after that stage, a small white pistil will start protruding from the tip of the preflower. I don't have any pics of any early males, atm. Hopefully someone else does?

Thanks, been skimming through your journal, very nice. I just have a question, do you top or lst? I read about your yield size & am striving for that amount per plant.

Also, in the photo it looks as if you may have done a bit of super cropping

^Thanks man. Actually, what I use, is a form of LST that I call "bending". That's what you see in the pic. Instead of topping, the main top is bent over and tied with a bread tie, which fools the plant into thinking it has lost it's main grow tip, putting it into a bit of a 'panic state', in which all the side branching competes to form a new main top, creating a nice bushy plant. IMO, works much faster than topping, and creates more tops. The best part, is that you release the main top, after the side branches have caught up, and still retain your main cola. Pretty much the same idea as supercropping, but less stressful to the plant, and works just as well, if not better.

One tip, if you choose to experiment with bending...... Don't try it until you are in a pot that is good-sized, preferrably, your final size. More root space = better branching, and much better results(faster too). If you try it in a party cup, it won't work very well, for example. If the roots can't expand, neither will the foliage.

When you say bent over, how exactly are you bending it? The same way you super crop or is it a gradual bend so it doesn't break?

MrCatatonic said:

When you say bent over, how exactly are you bending it? The same way you super crop or is it a gradual bend so it doesn't break?

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They are bent so that they dont break. They bend quite easily, when the plants are young and flexible. In supercropping, the stem is actually crushed with your fingers, so that it flops over and doesn't need to be tied down.