The 10 worst most anti marijuana states

skunky33

Active Member
Rights do not "come from government".
Rights do not come from other people who believe they are entitled to speak for you. They are inalienable or unalienable if you prefer.

Having mastery over your own body is a natural right. The natural rights we have should not be usurped by any
manmade attempt to herd people into accepting loss of freedoms.
Fact remains we don't live in anarchy and at the end of the day the government decides whether you get a fine or a prison sentence.
 

overgrowem

Well-Known Member
Whoever left Florida offthe list must be getting good dank.
States should be able to decide for themselves? States are not a cohesive unit and are often made up of people with different desires and tastes..So let's go a little further... Why not individual PEOPLE should be able to decide for themselves?

The "good of the country" is an arbitrary thing and can be defined numerous conflicting ways dependant upon the point of view. I may not agree with what you believe is for the good of the country, nor you with me. So why not agree to respect others freedom and leave all levels of government out of it?

Again, If a person harms nobody, does anybody have the right to restrict their behavior or ownership of their body?
I say no.
 

medicineman

New Member
Most if not all of those states were RED states, you know, conservative states. Gives some meaning to the premis that conservatives are more against legalizing than liberals, don't y'all think? My state. Nevada, used to be about the worst state for criminality of pot, but in the last 25 years, (Due to the huge influx of Californians no doubt) it is one of the more liberal, even has a medical MJ law, although with a population of around 3 million, only around 3,000 people have applied. I guess either paranoia or the reluctance to hassle it has kept the numbers low. It is a bit of a hassle in Nevada, check the NORML site to see why.
 

skunky33

Active Member
I picked the states which I thought were the most strict in which the laws had the most penalty for the average smoker grower. Partisan politics didn't have any sway in this list.
 

skunky33

Active Member
Whoever left Florida offthe list must be getting good dank.
I left Florida out because their mandatory minimum sentences are for offenses over 25 pounds and Florida really puts emphasis on judicial power in cases under 25 pounds which means the state can give you whatever the judge deems appropriate. It was up between Florida and another state at the end. So Florida could easily be put on the list.
 

ilkhan

Well-Known Member
Its the Christian Conservatives.
They don't want devil weed around their kids.
Some of the stricter churches will tell you if you do any drugs you leave yourself open to
DEMONIC POSSESSION.

I am not kidding.

However, I have a right to free contract with a potential possessing Demon
So you know ..fuck it.
 

Lindseyb

Well-Known Member
Get caught with weed in denver, fine- 1$. Dude I live in Oklahoma fuck that shit... Cops are fuckn bitches here too. Back in AZ. If you were high the cops would just laugh and tell you to walk home or something, here if your in the middle of no where all by urself smoking a blunt and a cop knows, they will search for your ass, come on your private property and shit and throw ur ass in jail, They do whatever they can to be douches.
 

Moldy

Well-Known Member
Any time somebody tries to force otherwise peaceful people to do something, yes, it is crazy. Proof that many laws are arbitrary and have no basis in PROTECTING rights, rather in STEALING them.
Well said! Too bad many other Americans have their blinders on and don't see anything wrong with the laws.

Most if not all of those states were RED states, you know, conservative states. Gives some meaning to the premis that conservatives are more against legalizing than liberals, don't y'all think? My state. Nevada, used to be about the worst state for criminality of pot, but in the last 25 years, (Due to the huge influx of Californians no doubt) it is one of the more liberal, even has a medical MJ law, although with a population of around 3 million, only around 3,000 people have applied. I guess either paranoia or the reluctance to hassle it has kept the numbers low. It is a bit of a hassle in Nevada, check the NORML site to see why.
Nice to see you're from NV and know about how it "changed". It seems after the Olympic snow boarders were busted just before they hit the CA state line, down by Topaz Lake, the state started to realize how stupid they looked. You probably have a better handle on it though as I moved here in 92' and was scared of the laws even coming from the midwest! Once my stash was gone it was hard to find weed here except my kids were in high school and scored it for my birthdays, Xmas, etc. Now I'm medical so screw the high schoolers and 4th street dealers! Tough MMJ laws here but when I look NJ's new MMJ law I feel pretty lucky. At least we can grow.

What about Utah? Thought those Mormons would really be rough on pot?
 

medicineman

New Member
I picked the states which I thought were the most strict in which the laws had the most penalty for the average smoker grower. Partisan politics didn't have any sway in this list.
You are absolutely wrong. It is the politics of far right conservatism that have put these draconian laws into effect and keep them there. It is also a fact that liberals are more apt to discount pot possession as nothing more than a nuisance, not worthy of serious jail time. Pay attention. It is the "Blue" states that are more apt to have some form of legalization of pot. Nv. turned Blue in the last election. Remains to be seen whether it will remain blue. The essence of the word liberal means that liberals are more relaxed about laws and penalities, so there.

liberal.Definition: 1. broad-minded: tolerant of different views and standards of behavior in others

2. progressive politically or socially: favoring gradual reform, especially political reforms that extend democracy, distribute wealth more evenly, and protect the personal freedom of the individual

The red part is for all you "libertarians" that always bitch about how liberals are trying to steal your freedom
 

NoDrama

Well-Known Member
What kills me is the range of penalty. If you sell 1 ounce in Minnesota it's a ticket and a fine sell an oz across the street in South Dakota it's a FELONY! I'm all for states rights but the fed should step in and pronounce this cruel and unusual punishment...and just straight up stupid.
I think the Fed should fuck off and keep its nose out of states business, You know the 10th amendment and all.
 

Parker

Well-Known Member
You are absolutely wrong. It is the politics of far right conservatism that have put these draconian laws into effect and keep them there. It is also a fact that liberals are more apt to discount pot possession as nothing more than a nuisance, not worthy of serious jail time. Pay attention. It is the "Blue" states that are more apt to have some form of legalization of pot. Nv. turned Blue in the last election. Remains to be seen whether it will remain blue. The essence of the word liberal means that liberals are more relaxed about laws and penalities, so there.

liberal.Definition: 1. broad-minded: tolerant of different views and standards of behavior in others

2. progressive politically or socially: favoring gradual reform, especially political reforms that extend democracy, distribute wealth more evenly, and protect the personal freedom of the individual

The red part is for all you "libertarians" that always bitch about how liberals are trying to steal your freedom
I don't think it's about stealing freedom per say more like stealing MY money and giving it to YOUR cause.
 

srodden1

Member
Great thread
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No matter what MJ will eventually be legal. everywhere. The number of states that pass mj law is growing more and more. Eventually us Floridians will not have to fear about being on some list. Power of the people will prevail, all we have to do is get more and more people to smoke.

ha.
 

skunky33

Active Member
You are absolutely wrong. It is the politics of far right conservatism that have put these draconian laws into effect and keep them there. It is also a fact that liberals are more apt to discount pot possession as nothing more than a nuisance, not worthy of serious jail time. Pay attention. It is the "Blue" states that are more apt to have some form of legalization of pot. Nv. turned Blue in the last election. Remains to be seen whether it will remain blue. The essence of the word liberal means that liberals are more relaxed about laws and penalities, so there.

liberal.Definition: 1. broad-minded: tolerant of different views and standards of behavior in others

2. progressive politically or socially: favoring gradual reform, especially political reforms that extend democracy, distribute wealth more evenly, and protect the personal freedom of the individual

The red part is for all you "libertarians" that always bitch about how liberals are trying to steal your freedom
I didn't say that being conservative state has nothing to do with harsh laws. I mean that my political ideology had nothing to do with me picking the states I listed.
 

sambo020482

Well-Known Member
Thats crazy that you can get a small fine on one side of the street step over the state line n that same amount is a prison sentance! thats mad! here in the u.k they dont really put many people in prison for weed unless you got dont quote me say 500+ plants ive read lots of cases of people being caught with 100+ plants and not going to jail.
 

2much

Active Member
when people start standing up for their rights is when things will change. join norml, got to the capital and be heard, sounds corny but thats what it takes. when the powers that be see that we wont just sit on our asses and let some archaic dinosaurs run our lives., when people start getting loud is the only time these politicians will listen!
 

skunky33

Active Member
States should be able to decide for themselves? States are not a cohesive unit and are often made up of people with different desires and tastes..So let's go a little further... Why not individual PEOPLE should be able to decide for themselves?

The "good of the country" is an arbitrary thing and can be defined numerous conflicting ways dependant upon the point of view. I may not agree with what you believe is for the good of the country, nor you with me. So why not agree to respect others freedom and leave all levels of government out of it?

Again, If a person harms nobody, does anybody have the right to restrict their behavior or ownership of their body?
I say no.
You're being altruistic. Your dreams of a Utopian anarchy are never going to happen. What's right and what's reality are two different things. Most of the hatred for the fed is due to the civil war and civil rights movement when the fed stepped in and now is transferred to anything that the fed does.
 
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