The Art of The Auto

harveyjarvey said:

Quick question: so if I am growing an auto I can keep the lighting at 18/6 for the entire grow and part way through just add a few seedlings in with the plants I have Been growing so that I have plants in different phases harvesting every month. Is that accurate. Strain:shortryders and lowryders please let me know if I'm on the right track.

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That's about what I am doing right now. I have started a couple every couple of weeks since Oct. 1st. Right now I have 10 in every stage from seedling to frosty buds. I will have fresh bud every couple of weeks Starting around thanksgiving.

FullDuplex said:

You could always use the raised transplant method, how much head room are we talking.
If low space there are a few ways to get decent yields out of little pots

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Ive got about 24" of total height to work with

Well here is the weekly update on my ladies. I think I might end up a little crowded with ten in my space but They are looking good now.

YarndiYarns said:

Hi, I've got two Easy Riders and one Hindu Kush growing (see my signature below for a link to the thread). These three are autos, they are damn cute little girls.
I've definitely learnt a lot from these first grows (last time I grew anything was probably sprouts in primary school).
You'll benefit from my mistakes if you follow the thread, I've tried to document pertinent detail and gotten some really good feed back from a few experienced growers.
Cheers,

Yarndi.

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just check ur setup out... really admire your creativity and recycling... nice work.. some of my setup has reused stuff like old chargers and stuff i ti! props!

harveyjarvey said:

Quick question: so if I am growing an auto I can keep the lighting at 18/6 for the entire grow and part way through just add a few seedlings in with the plants I have Been growing so that I have plants in different phases harvesting every month. Is that accurate. Strain:shortryders and lowryders please let me know if I'm on the right track.

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You are right.


I ran 18/6 this summer and am now running 20/4 to keep the night time temps up a bit more and have a perpetual going. Most Autos have no problem vegging and flowering in any light from about 18/6 to 24/0.

FullDuplex said:

Its insane really and you guys are right it grows 4 pages a day

I guess what a better place than here. If they haven't given us a place yet
well just keep doing what we do best

Its all the guys out there that have made it what it is.
Good company and good vibes say the rest.
My goal was to give autos and there info
a home, they have one, until of course they give us a sub forum
then we can break it up in to categories to make things easy to find.

Seems that more and more guys that are growing autos
are coming out of hiding each day.

now ill smoke one to that

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lol... so what are you sayin? we're goin' into the closet or comin out? I'm confuzed....

harveyjarvey said:

Quick question: so if I am growing an auto I can keep the lighting at 18/6 for the entire grow and part way through just add a few seedlings in with the plants I have Been growing so that I have plants in different phases harvesting every month. Is that accurate. Strain:shortryders and lowryders please let me know if I'm on the right track.

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The guys at attitude say a 20/4 light schedule is best. I'm stickin with that. No reason you can't have a crop every month using the same space. These auto's are really starting to grow on me man.

HOLY AUTO GROWERS BATMAN! There are guys coming out of the woodwork. I wouldn't say they were coming out of the closet. I don't know them enough to be smack talking just yet. Maybe in time and all in good fun though.

Hey, has anyone used BOTANICARE ZHO ROOT INOCULANT or know someone who has used it? It says it has 6 different fungi and glycine (amino acid). Is this a good product?

Strange thought for the Day

After 5-6 years growing AF's...I have seen every kind of AF hating Trolls.

They come in and try to disrupt any Good AF thread..

the more enthusiastic AF growers try to rationalise with them..

WRONG..
NEVER FEED A TROLL

They get their Jollies by ANY sort of reply from you..even abusive ones...
They are Feeding on your attention.

STARVE THEM...
NEVER EVER TRY TO JUSTIFY AF'S TO THEM.

(IF you Convert them..there will be less AF's to go round..why share.....)

But..the Strange thought is...

I have never..ever seen an AF grower Trolling/being abusive/aggresive about someone elses long-season girls in Their own threads...

Has anybody else noticed...?

Gotta be a reflection of the quality of the Chilled bud we grow..

She's a green PJ and turned into a small shrub, but I'll chop her in a few days as well (couple days earlier than my purple one).

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hydrolenny....the green has started to put a mango/skunk pheno out..keep your nose open for it..I haven't had it myself..
But..
test reports say it is a good un...

Also..if you have scoped the purple and the green..
have you noticed any difference in the trics..?

IMO...Before you harvest..
pick One calyx from the very top bud..
one from the middle..
one from the end of the bottom branch..

Scan them in the micro..and just keep an eye out for the first Hint of amber..
then harvest.

IF she is Similar to ALF..and I Think she is..
she goes over Hard amber..
no shadowing...
It is very distinct..so as a first timer..you wouldn't miss it.

You will be like a Pro second time round..and the more relaxed You are the more responsive the girls become.
You will be able to sit back and enjoy it more.

lowrdr...

lol i have been wondering this myself mate, but i have super-human willpower, i shall let u know how it goes

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You isn't one of those Sadists on the quiet are you....ha ha..
talk about being on a diet in a sweet shop...

Grow Ugly ones m8..then you will not be as tempted...

Are you still sticking to your hard exercise program..or has the cold weather hampered it..?

Coz..I'm telling you now...if you have slackened..the temptation will be irresistible..

Autos allow me to veg and flower in the same cab, keep space required to an absolute minimum and still provide myself with a constant supply of very high grade meds.

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and that is what it is all about..

Curious..did your Mi5 auto..?

I'm hoping mossys and FD will accept the newbie into their Autoholic Anonymous discussion, lol.

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Stub out that smoke..raise your right hand and repeat after me...
"My name is...insert as necessary...
I am an AF CannAHolic..."

Consider yourself joined.
Now sit down and tell us how the Sirens seduced you..

Could I try breeding a Skunk#1 with PJ to achieve this guys? Isn't PJ an f7 mazar x lr2?

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PJ..mazar x lr#1
And..
my homework says..
Mazar took the cannabis cup one year as she was..
then she was Crossed with a Skunk#1..and re-took the cup 2 years later..
Still as mazar..
soo...
mazar already Has Skunk#1 in her..
IMO...PJ would make an ideal genepool to pull off a Skunk#1 dominant AF.

Thanx FD and Mossy for the pics the alf#3 and O guns. the Alf#3 looks very nice as in hard nugs i hate airy nugs dont know why just do lol

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Me too shroomy...I think that is why I love indy so much..
big buds that go Thunk..if you drop em..

Are you on your summer season..?
I need something watched on Oguns in the cold/off-season.

BTW..I have just set away some of the seed from those mixed Oguns..
and some from the coloureds..
we'll be grow buddies.

These auto's are really starting to grow on me man.

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Be careful..they are Highly addictive to grow..

I wouldn't say they were coming out of the closet. I don't know them enough to be smack talking just yet

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LMHO..
Haven't tried your BOTANICARE ZHO ROOT INOCULANT
But amino acids are good.



https://www.rollitup.org/attachments/indoor-growing/1273634d1290015328-art-auto-dsc_0215.jpg

haven't carried that link properly hydrolenny..
but you can see where yours got the yellowing leaf from.

Mind..if you look at the date they are Outdoor..it could just be frost-bite..

BH..one for you about the aromats....
you have the maj botany book..

the difference on the THC tric is it is multi-cellular..
it has a space up the middle where the THC is pumped out...

Tric..and a "Hair"...together...



close up..the "Hair" has a Very similar internal structure...



Makes you wonder...

hey mossy, Yeah mate summer is about 2 weeks away and the weather is really starting to warm up I can deff watch my Oguns carefully in the winter months mate just let me know what you want me to look out for

hell yeah we will be grow buddies just dropped ICU#2 tonight as well as Bud Wider

so got to get some coco and pots ready in a about a day

I can deff watch my Oguns carefully in the winter months mate just let me know what you want me to look out for

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Cheers.
All the other AF's I have grow small on winter conditions.
One in the Oguns keeps on going.
Increasing the grow time considerably..
BUT..
coming out with almost full season yield.

It is a very Interesting phenomenon..for me..
so keep your eyes open for any.

FullDuplex said:

its all good i understand there is a ton of info here and a lot of reading to do.

I grew my first PJ as well as all my other girls under a 250watt MH/HPS.
My room is 3'x3'x5
I can grow six in there under the 250 and they all will do great.
I can keep my temps at about 75-77 all the time but i am running a 435CFM fan to keep it cool

I think that you could get a 250hps in that area and get fantastic results, but you are gonna need to cool it in that smaller area
you can get the light that i use here and at a great price.
250 HPS

If you dont want to go HPS in that area the high powered CFL's will do good and run a little cooler but the buds wont be as dense as the HPS.

Let us know what you decide to do. Glad to have you here in the thread.

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ay, thanx man.. really i appreciate it..
well i decided to go down instead to 2 girls and use a 175 watt with a 100 hps at the same time during veg.During bloom i plan on adding another hps in the mix. (thinking about starting a grow journal hint hint, lol)
~when should i switch from grow to bloom nutes? i've heard 2-3 weeks or jsut wait until they start to show sex.
~here is the my setup, i've managed to keep the temperature to stabilize arond 75-80 degrees... comments any1?

also. i'vebeen getting mixed reviews on when to add nutes? i can "bing" for info all day , but what better advice than from the source or experiencded grower themselves?
currently im letting my reservoir stabilize while my seeds are germinating... currently 5.7 hows that?

FullDuplex said:

i have a slight concern on the blue himalaya the one in the first pic. It looks like you have a lock out issue going on there.
My first question is what is the pH of the water you are using and are you checking the pH after you add nutes?
They will change the ph of the water and over time cause build ups as well as lock out. Check it out and let me know.
Im gonna say that you have a low soil ph going on there and locking out Mg.

The rest look great and lush, keep doing what your doing to them.
On the first one get a reading of the run off and let me know what the ph is

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Ok, i will definately do that on the next watering in a few days. I have checked the ph before i watered/fed a day ago, i tried to get it down to around 6.4-6.5 after i added the big bloom and then watered. I will definately post back with pics after the next watering. thanks alot for the advice and help. this is my first grow and am still learning, so any advice i am greatly appreciative of......

FullD...
one of the few creams that did have a bit of effect on nerve pain is zacin..
a topical application made with concentrated chilli.

IMO..like any skin irritant..it works by sending a rush of blood to the area...
(bringing a blood supply to the affected nerves..and feeding them..to stop them screaming..If you believe my theories.)

This sounds a bit sadistic..BUT...
have you thought about making a strong paste with your chilli and a bit of olive oil..and smearing it over the affected area in your mouth
nearest where the nerve pain is..?

It will Burn like Chuff..just like the cream..
But..
being honest..anything is better than the nerve pain.

Although the precise mechanism of action of capsaicin is not fully understood, current evidence suggests that capsaicin exerts an analgesic effect by depleting and preventing reaccumulation of Substance P in peripheral sensory neurons. Substance P is thought to be the principal chemomediator of pain impulses from the periphery to the central nervous system.

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See...even the quacks don't know How it works..
but..they know it does.

mossys said:

Cheers.
All the other AF's I have grow small on winter conditions.
One in the Oguns keeps on going.
Increasing the grow time considerably..
BUT..
coming out with almost full season yield.

It is a very Interesting phenomenon..for me..
so keep your eyes open for any.

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sounds like something id be wanting to cross into the alf#3 or the NYLD i am working with

I love coming in here in the mornings with a nice cup of coffee and reading about 4 new pages a day.

Just a quick update on my Sagamatha. Now I've heard they only have a 19% germ rate, but I had no problems and yesterday evening she popped her head above the soil(FFOF), and by this morning she had turned up and was looking for that glorious light. I gave her a very light mix of Sugar Daddy/Root 66 1/4 strength. I went really light because this is a brand new strain for me and there is literally no info out there about it. So I guess it's up to me to bring it to the world.

Mossy man I love your sense of humor mate, thanks for being so open and willing to teach. Not to often do you see anyone with the amount of success you've had willing to share it with others. Most peeps are greedy with secrets, just like the old pool players (Billiards for my friends across the pond).

John Mondello said:

lol... so what are you sayin? we're goin' into the closet or comin out? I'm confuzed....

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I dont know about you but im neither in or out of the closet sir, i do believe you are barking up the wrong tree LOL