The Budologist's 2012 Outdoor Grow (TGA Forest)

...please don't zip tie your trunk....no offense KK....the last thing you want to do is pinch off the paper thin cambium layer, or put any pressure on it what-so-ever and restrict flow from the root mass......as long as the canopy is properly supported laterally, their should be no problems......prediction....that pic will become famous....you heard it here first....well done my brother.
 
we are going to have to have you re-take that shot with a lighter or something for perspective.....fun stuff! i think a pair of sunglasses would be nice....
 
nugbuckets said:
...please don't zip tie your trunk....no offense KK....the last thing you want to do is pinch off the paper thin cambium layer, or put any pressure on it what-so-ever and restrict flow from the root mass......as long as the canopy is properly supported laterally, their should be no problems......prediction....that pic will become famous....you heard it here first....well done my brother.
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u think a zip tie is gonna slow that down ur trippin

Edit: there is no internal support whatsoever. dont u use a tomato cage internally? thats a big ass plant with an obvious weakness in its foundation. what do u think is gonna happen when its full of flowers and it rains? there needs to be some internal support. better be safe then have half that tree rip off.
 
kushking42 said:
u think a zip tie is gonna slow that down ur trippin

Edit: there is no internal support whatsoever. dont u use a tomato cage internally? thats a big ass plant with an obvious weakness in its foundation. what do u think is gonna happen when its full of flowers and it rains? there needs to be some internal support. better be safe then have half that tree rip off.
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i totally agree on the internal support for a plant that size, and if it were mine, i would do what you recommend with the stakes.....but i would not use zip-ties, i would go with something that can flex and expand....i would use ace bandage, but with the attachment points beginning about 1 foot from the soil surface, then another at 2, 3, and 4 feet......and no bro, i am not trippin'......i have a solid understanding of how the vascular system works on woody plants, wood fiber (bow-making, forestry, woodworking, woodcarving on and on) has been my geek for the last 20 years.....seriously.
 
.....i would do something like this......long ridged stakes wedged in the "y"s of the trunk preventing the split, with wire to prevent the two stakes from spreading...then attach a few of the heaviest stems higher up on the same stakes......i would also add two more perpendicular to those, and use wire again to prevent spreading of the 2 stakes.....and use some soft ties or ace bandage to attach a few more mains to those as well, this way no vascular cambium is comprimised, and the stakes are wide enough not to damage thick "Anchor" roots when driving them in.... quick, cheap, easy.....effective.
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i agree that ur option is better. zip ties are just fast and easy. its impromptu at this point. i just dont think the zip tie would hurt the plant is all. you can always cut and replace the zip tie. or the plant might swallow the tie. but when its that thick already i dont see the tie chocking the plant off.

Edit: if you're zip tying a young plant with a small diameter that is still going to be expanding exponentially and dont remove the tie.... then ya your gonna be fucked. but if you throw a tie in there when the trunk is like a bat and keep your eye on it, i dont see any issues with that. ime using zip ties i havent had problems.
 
kushking42 said:
i agree that ur option is
better. zip ties are just fast and easy. its impromptu at this point. i just dont think the zip tie would hurt the plant is all. you can always cut and replace the zip tie. or the plant might swallow the tie. but when its that thick already i dont see the tie chocking the plant off.
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the way i look at it is, mainlining adheres to the premis of maximum efficiency from the root mass, my arm is fully grown, but if i put a snug rubberband around my forearm, my hand would not be able to operate at full potential.........and animals have a much more advanced circlatory system, plants rely on their thin cambium layer alone.
 
kushking42 said:
i agree that ur option is better. zip ties are just fast and easy. its impromptu at this point. i just dont think the zip tie would hurt the plant is all. you can always cut and replace the zip tie. or the plant might swallow the tie. but when its that thick already i dont see the tie chocking the plant off.

Edit: if you're zip tying a young plant with a small diameter that is still going to be expanding exponentially and dont remove the tie.... then ya your gonna be fucked. but if you throw a tie in there when the trunk is like a bat and keep your eye on it, i dont see any issues with that. ime using zip ties i havent had problems.
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i agree, but why lend an eye on something that doesn't need one to begin with.....
 
GODDAMNIT NUGS STOP MAKING ME THINK! no but in all seriousness man your always giving me new knowledge, and I sincerely thank you for that, stay lit.
 
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Holy shit that is epic! That top-down view of the canopy brought a sweet tear to my eye. I'm mainlining my outdoor grows from now on. Good job!
 
Lots of content coming today, writing up some stuff about LD50 #9, gonna update the https://www.rollitup.org/subcools-old-school-organics/527777-pre98-bubba-kush-x-querkle.html thread majorly.

In the mean time, while all this stuff uploads and I type things up, here's some pics from today.

BTW it poured last night and has been overcast all day :( plants are perfectly fine though and dried out already.

Romulan
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Grape Stomper OG (Bushier pheno)
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LD50 Ripped Bubba Dom.
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LD50 #9
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pre 98 Bubba x Querkle starting to pack on resin (very Bubba dom, smell from rubbing it is complete Bubba Kush 100%)
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Lots more coming today!

-Bud:leaf:
 
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