The Daily Nugg,

Laughing Grass said:

lol so staples it is. I wasn't crazy about the staples aesthetically and they poke through the wood a bit. All of the seams didn't perfectly line up and there would be a lot of light leaks to address if I only used paint.

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You don’t hate caulk ... ?
Embrace the caulk.
A few squeezes of the white stuff should make the woodwork all come together.
As it slowly hardens, the optical and microbiological permeability of your weed haven are put behind you.

And then you can paint it.

No racy double entendres for paint ... ok no good ones

DarkWeb said:

Use the right length staple! lol



Agree....paint works great. You can repaint after a bunch of grows. Or get a washable flat.

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Whiteboard paint? Keep notes in real time.

You would actually "see the writing on the wall"

lokie said:

Whiteboard paint? Keep notes in real time.

You would actually "see the writing on the wall"

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lokie said:

Whiteboard paint? Keep notes in real time.

You would actually "see the writing on the wall"

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Mene mene tekel whoashit

cannabineer said:

Mene mene tekel whoashit

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DarkWeb said:

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A deliberate misquote of “the writing on the wall”, somewhere in the Old Testament.

The original was “mene mene tekel parsin”, which iirc meant “beware, beware of Persian money.”

Now that has changed geographically, but not conceptually.

cannabineer said:

A deliberate misquote of “the writing on the wall”, somewhere in the Old Testament.

The original was “mene mene tekel parsin”, which iirc meant “beware, beware of Persian money.”

Now that has changed geographically, but not conceptually.

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Ok I don't remember that one......

cannabineer said:

A deliberate misquote of “the writing on the wall”, somewhere in the Old Testament.

The original was “mene mene tekel parsin”, which iirc meant “beware, beware of Persian money.”

Now that has changed geographically, but not conceptually.

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Daniel 5:25-31

King James Version



25 And this is the writing that was written, Mene, Mene, Tekel, Upharsin.
26 This is the interpretation of the thing: Mene; God hath numbered thy kingdom, and finished it.
27 Tekel; Thou art weighed in the balances, and art found wanting.
28 Peres; Thy kingdom is divided, and given to the Medes and Persians.
29 Then commanded Belshazzar, and they clothed Daniel with scarlet, and put a chain of gold about his neck, and made a proclamation concerning him, that he should be the third ruler in the kingdom.
30 In that night was Belshazzar the king of the Chaldeans slain.
31 And Darius the Median took the kingdom, being about threescore and two years old.

DarkWeb said:

Ok I don't remember that one......

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Looked it up
Daniel 5:25-31

And their translation is very different:
“numbered, numbered, weighed, divided”

Which I can’t fit into the shoehorn of my previous idea

cannabineer said:

Looked it up
Daniel 5:25-31

And their translation is very different:
“numbered, numbered, weighed, divided”

Which I can’t fit into the shoehorn of my previous idea

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Reading writings of old can be difficult.

Sometimes interpreting them is more challenging.

lokie said:

Reading writings of old can be difficult.

Sometimes interpreting them is more challenging.

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I tried to imagine ways from b to a.
Couldn’t omit a key step from any logical contortion I could sell.

DarkWeb said:

Use the right length staple! lol

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I did! One thing I learned from all this is everything is a lie. a 2/4 isn't 2" by 4" and 3/8" plywood closer to 11/32".

lokie said:

It is likely paint will fill the tiny staple holes. More likely a 2nd coat would fix any holes left after the first coat.

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I still have lots of panda film. If I can use that I won't have to spend anything. I'm not trying to be difficult, trying to be cheap.

cannabineer said:

You don’t hate caulk ... ?
Embrace the caulk.
A few squeezes of the white stuff should make the woodwork all come together.
As it slowly hardens, the optical and microbiological permeability of your weed haven are put behind you.

And then you can paint it.

No racy double entendres for paint ... ok no good ones

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Diametrically opposed.

All the seams have been caulked... it was my first time doing that so it was pretty messy. When I closed the doors I could still see light leaking in at some of the corners and where the two panels of plywood meet up on the back wall.

Laughing Grass said:

I did! One thing I learned from all this is everything is a lie. a 2/4 isn't 2" by 4" and 3/8" plywood closer to 11/32".



I still have lots of panda film. If I can use that I won't have to spend anything. I'm not trying to be difficult, trying to be cheap.


Diametrically opposed.

All the seams have been caulked... it was my first time doing that so it was pretty messy. When I closed the doors I could still see light leaking in at some of the corners and where the two panels of plywood meet up on the back wall.


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Innuendo aside ... had it happen, hated it every time

I'mma white paint guy myself.
I tried panda the first couple of runs & after reading responses from very intelligent growers I switched gears.

cannabineer said:

Innuendo aside ... had it happen, hated it every time

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The trick to caulking is to use your wet finger to smooth & shape the caulk and wipe off the excess. So you have a wet rag in one hand and your caulking gun in the other, and you can make magic!!

Singlemalt said:

Panda film is virgin resins polyethylene; which means that adhesives have a tough time bonding to it. You can try the hard way with specialty industrial adhesives, usually a 2 part process with cyanoacrylates (nasty dangerous fumes) and a serious pain in the ass process. Or you can use staples

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The entire OR team would get high as a kite when we'd do total joints, ahhh the old days.

GreatwhiteNorth said:

I'mma white paint guy myself.
I tried panda the first couple of runs & after reading responses from very intelligent growers I switched gears.

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Same here, the loss was negligible and as long as you're not a sealed room, perfectly dialed in VPD kind of guy it works.

GreatwhiteNorth said:

I'mma white paint guy myself.
I tried panda the first couple of runs & after reading responses from very intelligent growers I switched gears.

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I do appreciate all the advise I'm getting from the intelligent growers here. I'm going to have to spend a bunch addressing my air flow issues so it's important to me to save where I can.

Laughing Grass said:

I do appreciate all the advise I'm getting from the intelligent growers here. I'm going to have to spend a bunch addressing my air flow issues and so it's important to me to save where I can.

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Staples it is then....

What's your plan for the air circulation?

Right now I'm thinking four of the secret jardin monkey oscillating fans Link

I'm going to mount one above the canopy and one below at opposite corners. I'm thinking getting two of these four foot pipes Link and flanges Link so I can mount them to the ceiling. I'm using the same setup for my camera and it works well.